Kakashi and Obito vs Itachi and Sasuke

[TheEvilOne]

Restrictions: GM, Edo Jins, Rinnegan. Kakashi isn't shielded by the plot no jutsu = he can't use more then 4 Kamui.
Intel: Manga
Location: Itachi vs Sasuke

 

[Shura]

Obito and Kakashi win this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke and Itachi win this.

 

[Zexion~]

Team one wi-- oh its MS obito -_- Team 2 wins

I believe Rinnegan Obito may solo though

 

[Bogard]

Neither Itachi, nor Sasuke have knowledge on Obito's use of kamui. He can make Kakashi intangible for him to survive any attack of the duo(Itachi or Sasuke) or simply send him in the other dimension for him to avoid attacks without wasting chakra and release him(or Kakashi himself) for a surprise combo attack(kamui combo probably).

Alive Itachi can't maintain Susanoo for long, so he would have to try and finish the battle as soon as possible which is unlikely since he has no way of actually hiting Obito even with Sasuke's help. So if the battle goes long, Itachi would ultimately die at some point. That's even if i forget to mention the fact that Susanoo especially Itachi's or Sasuke's version, is basically useless against Obito's kamui.

He could easily phase through them(whether directly or from underground) and send them in the other dimension or finish them off with a mokuton jutsu, especially since inside Susanoo, the user suffers terrible bodily pain(especially Itachi), so can't move well, his reflexes becoming weaker. And i didn't even mention the fact that while in intangible mode, Obito could stop the intangibility at some point to allow Kakashi to finish them off with a long range kamui. Seriously a kamui-combo is too broken

 

[Zexion~]

Neither Itachi, nor Sasuke have knowledge on Obito's use of kamui. He can make Kakashi intangible for him to survive any attack of the duo(Itachi or Sasuke) or simply send him in the other dimension for him to avoid attacks without wasting chakra and release him(or Kakashi himself) for a surprise combo attack(kamui combo probably).

Alive Itachi can't maintain Susanoo for long, so he would have to try and finish the battle as soon as possible which is unlikely since he has no way of actually hiting Obito even with Sasuke's help. So if the battle goes long, Itachi would ultimately die at some point. That's even if i forget to mention the fact that Susanoo especially Itachi's or Sasuke's version, is basically useless against Obito's kamui.

He could easily phase through them(whether directly or from underground) and send them in the other dimension or finish them off with a mokuton jutsu, especially since inside Susanoo, the user suffers terrible bodily pain(especially Itachi), so can't move well, his reflexes becoming weaker. And i didn't even mention the fact that while in intangible mode, Obito could stop the intangibility at some point to allow Kakashi to finish them off with a long range kamui. Seriously a kamui-combo is too broken

Except Kakashi's stamina is almost if not the same as Itachi's .. going on long is a disadvantage for both teams

 

[Bogard]

Except Kakashi's stamina is almost if not the same as Itachi's .. going on long is a disadvantage for both teams

Reason why i said that Obito will make him intangible or go in the other dimension so that he could survive any of their attacks without wasting chakra, with Obito only releasing him the time he will be prepared to warp either of them or both of them with his long range kamui. It's where the chakra/stamina advantages team1

 

[EZQ]

Kakashi can use 4 kamuis... well i guess that would eb enough for him... Itachi has no knowledge of it so if kakashi gets obito's back-up kakashi could warp both itachi and sasuke

 

[AGoodBoy]

Restrictions: GM, Edo Jins, Rinnegan. Kakashi isn't shielded by the plot no jutsu = he can't use more then 4 Kamui.

Rofl, I was about to say team 1 till restrictions.

Team 2 low diff. How?

Simple. Without [restrictions] Team 1 has nothing to get past susano'o or YM. For that matter, Team 1 can't even counter sasuke's Enton sword. Sasuke's mastery is so great that he can either make a susano'o enton sword to blaze the entire area, or he can use his orb to light up team 1 like candles. We don't know how obito escaped amaterasu, and for all we know (since it hit his zetsu arm) he used mokuton to 'drop off' the affected area. Removed that zetsu part. Used izanagi. Or used kamui(unlikely, as the flames would warp with him as seen with konan's tags). Therefore, kamui alone is extremely unlikely to be the counter for amaterasu. With that alone, an EMS sasuke easily has a massive advantage in this fight.

Going further, excluding sharingan, itachi is easily the most intelligent and skilled ninja in this line up. With him to guide sasuke, and protect sasuke (as with kabuto) The chances of team 1 winning - with the current restrictions - is laughable at best.

Itachi can effortlessly handle kakashi in this matchup since their arsenals are somewhat equivalent. The fact that kakashi has MS doesn't shield him from itachi's genjutsu (as seen when his clone got trapped by a 30% itachi clone), nor would the idea of not looking into itachi's eyes favor him well. Though kakashi likes to use shadow clones, itachi also loves to use it too. The fact is, itachi has always shown a capability to push kakashi to the edge, and with sasuke as backup kakashi would easily be defeated. Because this isn't a large battle where kakashi can use team mates to hide, he won't be getting the necessary time to effectively start up kamui on his randomly moving enemy target, nor would he get the chance to analyse whether he's aiming at a shadow clone or not. Kakashi's MS would be reduced to defending against enton arrows (which sasuke can spam the shit out of due to his almost negligible restrictions with EMS) while itachi uses his incredible speed and skills to pressure team 1.

Inside a susano'o Sasuke would be safe from any attempts by obito to kamui him, and itachi's skill would make it less likely for obito to get the chance to successfully sneak up on him and land a successful kamui snipe. Itachi would also put his shuriken jutsu to good use to counter simple attempts by team 1 etc.

TL;DR; Team 2.

 

[wael reda]

you can't choose your own manga

kakashi in manga used before kuarma chakra 6 kamui with 6 raiki,2light chain,shadow clones,earth jutus,sharingan and fighting for long time

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team 1 wins ,team 1 can counter all team 2's jutsu but team 2 can't counter kamui

you name character's development plot ,then sasuke's spamming with enton is plot too

what is these strange people?any thing in manga doesn't achieve their hopes ,name it plot

 

[AGoodBoy]

you can't choose your own manga

kakashi in manga used before kuarma chakra 6 kamui with 6 raiki,2light chain,shadow clones,earth jutus,sharingan and fighting for long time

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team 1 wins ,team 1 can counter all team 2's jutsu but team 2 can't counter kamui

They can. 10char

 

[wael reda]

Rofl, I was about to say team 1 till restrictions.

Team 2 low diff. How?

Simple. Without [restrictions] Team 1 has nothing to get past susano'o or YM. For that matter, Team 1 can't even counter sasuke's Enton sword. Sasuke's mastery is so great that he can either make a susano'o enton sword to blaze the entire area, or he can use his orb to light up team 1 like candles. We don't know how obito escaped amaterasu, and for all we know (since it hit his zetsu arm) he used mokuton to 'drop off' the affected area. Removed that zetsu part. Used izanagi. Or used kamui(unlikely, as the flames would warp with him as seen with konan's tags). Therefore, kamui alone is extremely unlikely to be the counter for amaterasu. With that alone, an EMS sasuke easily has a massive advantage in this fight.

Going further, excluding sharingan, itachi is easily the most intelligent and skilled ninja in this line up. With him to guide sasuke, and protect sasuke (as with kabuto) The chances of team 1 winning - with the current restrictions - is laughable at best.

Itachi can effortlessly handle kakashi in this matchup since their arsenals are somewhat equivalent. The fact that kakashi has MS doesn't shield him from itachi's genjutsu (as seen when his clone got trapped by a 30% itachi clone), nor would the idea of not looking into itachi's eyes favor him well. Though kakashi likes to use shadow clones, itachi also loves to use it too. The fact is, itachi has always shown a capability to push kakashi to the edge, and with sasuke as backup kakashi would easily be defeated. Because this isn't a large battle where kakashi can use team mates to hide, he won't be getting the necessary time to effectively start up kamui on his randomly moving enemy target, nor would he get the chance to analyse whether he's aiming at a shadow clone or not. Kakashi's MS would be reduced to defending against enton arrows (which sasuke can spam the shit out of due to his almost negligible restrictions with EMS) while itachi uses his incredible speed and skills to pressure team 1.

Inside a susano'o Sasuke would be safe from any attempts by obito to kamui him, and itachi's skill would make it less likely for obito to get the chance to successfully sneak up on him and land a successful kamui snipe. Itachi would also put his shuriken jutsu to good use to counter simple attempts by team 1 etc.

TL;DR; Team 2.

they can't counter kamui,kakashi can warp them together

tuskimiu needs looking at user's eye and kakashi has now ms so talking about that is ridiculous
kakashi's clone wasn't affected by tuskimiu ,go read manga again

obito and kakashi can counter any amatrasu catch them by warping it

kakashi can beat itachi with kamui

itachi isn't the smartest here ,kakashi is ,by manga facts

kakashi can counter sasuke's arrow by going underground or obito make him intangible

kakashi's kamui is instant ,the moment he would think to warp one of them ,he would warp him in no time

obito can teleport behind any one of them and warp him

 

[wael reda]

Team one wi-- oh its MS obito -_- Team 2 wins

I believe Rinnegan Obito may solo though

ms obito and ms kakashi are enough
obito doesn't need riningan

 

[illidanson]

Without Gedo Mazou, Jinchurikis or Rinnegan, Itachi and Sasuke would take this mid diff.

MS Itachi > MS Kakashi (Especially when he's limited to 4 Kamuis)

EMS Sasuke > MS Obito

Can't believe so many people vote for Kakashi and Obito... I know Kamui is of cause extrmely powerful, but it's also extremely overrated.

 

[wael reda]

Without Gedo Mazou, Jinchurikis or Rinnegan, Itachi and Sasuke would take this mid diff.

MS Itachi > MS Kakashi (Especially when he's limited to 4 Kamuis)

EMS Sasuke > MS Obito

Can't believe so many people vote for Kakashi and Obito... I know Kamui is of cause extrmely powerful, but it's also extremely overrated.

thread's creator is the one who limited it 4 kamui only (he thinks himself kishi)

kakashi in manga used before kuarma chakra 6 kamui with 6 raiki,2light chain,shadow clones,earth jutus,sharingan and fighting for long time

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team 2 can't win since they can't counter kamui but team 1 can counter all team 2's attacks

 

[Lilt]

EMS Sasuke > MS Itachi = MS Obito > MS Kakashi (> most Kages)

And that's assuming Obito fights intelligently, unlike what he did against Minato, Konan, Fuu and Torrune.

 

[Nous]

Neither. Itachi and Sasuke cannot defeat Team 1. Kakashi could go just chill in the Kamui Dimension and the Uchiha Duo have nothing to force Obito to go tangible. The closest they have is Five Straight Minutes of Susano'o or Amaterasu/Enton Spamming which Itachi and probably Sasuke doesn't have the chakra to do. On the other hand, the only way the Kamui Duo can defeat the Uchiha Bros. is to warp them. However, this doesn't kill them and Obito cannot kill them in the Kamui Dimension and nor can Kakashi. Neither win.

 

[EZQ]

I love how some of the ones who vote for the uchiha bro's are ignoring kakashi's almost instant warping, he warped BM naruto so fast that obito didn't notice for the love of god...

If you say amaterasu, then i say this: Itachi or sasuke, both need to close their eyes, wait for it to bleed, then open it and then the flames is fired, in all that time kakashi already warped itachi (or sasuke)

If we talk about enton, it's the same as amaterasu..

Yata mirror can't block kamui, and in the case that it does, itachi can only keep it up for 30 secs... and sasuke doesn't have yata mirror so he gets warped anyway...

I mean, OBITO UCHIHA is the one backing up kakashi... Kakashi would have no problem warping those two away

 

[Rike Senju]

Team Obito wins. No knowledge on kamui he can warp any of the bros instantly and finish the other one with kakashi. He can warp almost as fast as Minato can warp away..according to obito himself which means none of the brothers can hope to escape being warped.

 

[wael reda]

I love how some of the ones who vote for the uchiha bro's are ignoring kakashi's almost instant warping, he warped BM naruto so fast that obito didn't notice for the love of god...

If you say amaterasu, then i say this: Itachi or sasuke, both need to close their eyes, wait for it to bleed, then open it and then the flames is fired, in all that time kakashi already warped itachi (or sasuke)

If we talk about enton, it's the same as amaterasu..

Yata mirror can't block kamui, and in the case that it does, itachi can only keep it up for 30 secs... and sasuke doesn't have yata mirror so he gets warped anyway...

I mean, OBITO UCHIHA is the one backing up kakashi... Kakashi would have no problem warping those two away

yata has no chance to counter kamui

if it was said in databook that yata counters any physical attack,kamui isn't physical

it was said in databook too,kamui is unmatched ,and there are no defense can defend against it

and about amatrasu ,i think kamui users could warp it to other dimension if it caught them