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I am bored and want to have a debate. Anyone who is interested can post his arguments here. It would be good if you avoid cursing. Anyone can join this debate anytime he wants.
I am taking EMS Sasuke ofcourse
P.S : There is NO NEED to read the whole thread since its going to be very long, you can pick the specific sub topic of your choice and counter it.
Ok so lets get started.
We know naruto is a very fast ninja and his speed is his biggest advantage, he also have Monstrous jutsu like bijju dama which can do some serious damage and then we have the Big ass BM cloak which can protect him from pretty much anything. So basically these are highlights which would give EMS sasuke trouble...
I will be countering all of naruto's techniques now.
1. Bijju Dama
So as bee explained when he was training naruto, Bijju dama requires an exact chakra ratio of 8:2 (yin:yang) and if the ratio is not accurate or disturbed , the bijju dama will fail or explode on user himself .
Countering biiju dama is very easy for Sasuke because he has a better jutsu(imo) in his arsenal, Amaterasu.
As you know, bijju dama takes time to form, then naruto has to carefully aim at his target and then shoot it and then it takes some time to reach the target and then it explodes and it is not even necessary that it will explode, it can also be "caught" like a ball.
So yeah, While naruto is forming bijju dama, sasuke can use amaterasu on it while its forming which will disturb the chakra ratio and explode.
Also, bijju dama is only effective in long range combat , since in mid-close range , even the user will take on some damage as the radius of bijju dama is huge(depends on his size) .
And a smaller bijju dama (mimi bijju dama) is useless again something like susano (that is if naruto can get close to sasuke)
2. BM speed.
As we can see, naruto's speed is greatly increased in BM mode.
So how to counter that? Well, its easy...
If you remember, in sasuke vs deidara fight, sasuke was too fast for deidara so , what deidara do was go aerial.
Yes thats exactly what sasuke will be doing , since he is probably the best long range fighter.
So sasuke will summon his hawk and fly to a certain height . No matter what naruto do, he cannot fly, he can jump high but not fly. Even with his extended chakra hands, he cannot reach sasuke because sasuke can use his hawk to fly to great heights.
Now some people say, naruto is too fast for sasuke , which i think is the crappiest argument i have ever heard :sy:
Against the almighty EMS , no one is fast.
Madara,obito,itachi and nagato didn't have any problem in keeping up with KM/BM naruto's speed.
Kakashi was able to kamui BM naruto even when he was rushing towards obito.
So , kakashi , by using his MS, was able to see naruto, aim his kamui at him, time it properly and kamui him .
Now , sasuke has EMS and EMS > MS...
I can give one more example. MS itachi defending himself from kirin.
Now as you all can see, kirin is very very fast jutsu . Its basically faster than speed of sound. Even then, itachi was able to see through kirin and form a susano in time.
Kirin speed >>>>>> BM naruto speed, still MS itachi was able to react to it in time.
Sasuke has EMS (which also includes itachi's eyes) so there is no possible way for naruto to be too fast for sasuke and sasuke can see him easily...
And you know what, amaterasu burns what the users sees Lol.
And yeah, i almost forgot, people keep bringing that shitty argument that raikage dodged amaterasu.
Well yes he did, but you should also keep other facts in mind . In that case, raikage was in close range with sasuke,
Amaterasu is basically a mid-long range jutsu and not so effective in close range, so yes even naruto can dodge amaterasu in close range but only in close range.
In long range , even in real life, the area we can see , increases. So in long range, there is no possible way for naruto to dodge amaterasu and lets assume even if manages to dodge it, he has to keep running since sasuke can spam amaterasu which will not be considered fighting but only running.
So yeah, Sasuke can easily see BM naruto even with his high speed . He can amaterasu him in mid-long range.
With amaterasu, sasuke can restrict BM naruto's movements(as seen in his fight against kabuto) .
3. BM cloak.
Not much to say in this topic, BM cloak is basically a liability to naruto in this fight.
Sasuke's offense is amaterasu. Sasuke can amaterasu him , BM cloak doesn't protect him from amaterasu.
You can see, in raikage vs sasuke fight, amaterasu burnt raikage hand even when he was wearing his armour which means amaterasu can burn the body directly even when armour is present.
4. Kage Bunshins.
pretty much this.
5. Summoning
Amaterasu > summoning.
Also naruto would not want to risk his summoning like that.
6. Rasengan
Chidori !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7. Sexy no jutsu.
:|
8. Sage mode
It requires too much time for naruto to come into SM . Also naruto has to stay at one place and he can't run and get into SM at same time. So basically in such situation, naruto would be begging to get amaterasu.
9. Sensing.
Naruto failed to sense amaterasu in KM (against itachi fight) .
Maybe he can sense in SM but there is no manga proof for that. He can go into SM (read point 8) , so that hardly matters.
Sensing might help him a bit in the battle though.
10. Flying rasen shuriken.
Same as biiju dama. Most likely susano can tank it.
i am still bored
Oh ya, i forgot to mention one thing.
INTELLIGENCE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAW POWER.
We have seen number of times, an intelligent ninja, despite of being physically weaker than the opposing side, wins the match.
Like shikamaru fights, itachi fights (against nagato,kabuto for example) etc.
Sasuke :
Naruto :
I am taking EMS Sasuke ofcourse
P.S : There is NO NEED to read the whole thread since its going to be very long, you can pick the specific sub topic of your choice and counter it.
Ok so lets get started.
We know naruto is a very fast ninja and his speed is his biggest advantage, he also have Monstrous jutsu like bijju dama which can do some serious damage and then we have the Big ass BM cloak which can protect him from pretty much anything. So basically these are highlights which would give EMS sasuke trouble...
I will be countering all of naruto's techniques now.
1. Bijju Dama
So as bee explained when he was training naruto, Bijju dama requires an exact chakra ratio of 8:2 (yin:yang) and if the ratio is not accurate or disturbed , the bijju dama will fail or explode on user himself .
Countering biiju dama is very easy for Sasuke because he has a better jutsu(imo) in his arsenal, Amaterasu.
As you know, bijju dama takes time to form, then naruto has to carefully aim at his target and then shoot it and then it takes some time to reach the target and then it explodes and it is not even necessary that it will explode, it can also be "caught" like a ball.
So yeah, While naruto is forming bijju dama, sasuke can use amaterasu on it while its forming which will disturb the chakra ratio and explode.
Also, bijju dama is only effective in long range combat , since in mid-close range , even the user will take on some damage as the radius of bijju dama is huge(depends on his size) .
And a smaller bijju dama (mimi bijju dama) is useless again something like susano (that is if naruto can get close to sasuke)
2. BM speed.
As we can see, naruto's speed is greatly increased in BM mode.
So how to counter that? Well, its easy...
If you remember, in sasuke vs deidara fight, sasuke was too fast for deidara so , what deidara do was go aerial.
Yes thats exactly what sasuke will be doing , since he is probably the best long range fighter.
So sasuke will summon his hawk and fly to a certain height . No matter what naruto do, he cannot fly, he can jump high but not fly. Even with his extended chakra hands, he cannot reach sasuke because sasuke can use his hawk to fly to great heights.
Now some people say, naruto is too fast for sasuke , which i think is the crappiest argument i have ever heard :sy:
Against the almighty EMS , no one is fast.
Madara,obito,itachi and nagato didn't have any problem in keeping up with KM/BM naruto's speed.
Kakashi was able to kamui BM naruto even when he was rushing towards obito.
So , kakashi , by using his MS, was able to see naruto, aim his kamui at him, time it properly and kamui him .
Now , sasuke has EMS and EMS > MS...
I can give one more example. MS itachi defending himself from kirin.
Now as you all can see, kirin is very very fast jutsu . Its basically faster than speed of sound. Even then, itachi was able to see through kirin and form a susano in time.
Kirin speed >>>>>> BM naruto speed, still MS itachi was able to react to it in time.
Sasuke has EMS (which also includes itachi's eyes) so there is no possible way for naruto to be too fast for sasuke and sasuke can see him easily...
And you know what, amaterasu burns what the users sees Lol.
And yeah, i almost forgot, people keep bringing that shitty argument that raikage dodged amaterasu.
Well yes he did, but you should also keep other facts in mind . In that case, raikage was in close range with sasuke,
Amaterasu is basically a mid-long range jutsu and not so effective in close range, so yes even naruto can dodge amaterasu in close range but only in close range.
In long range , even in real life, the area we can see , increases. So in long range, there is no possible way for naruto to dodge amaterasu and lets assume even if manages to dodge it, he has to keep running since sasuke can spam amaterasu which will not be considered fighting but only running.
So yeah, Sasuke can easily see BM naruto even with his high speed . He can amaterasu him in mid-long range.
With amaterasu, sasuke can restrict BM naruto's movements(as seen in his fight against kabuto) .
3. BM cloak.
Not much to say in this topic, BM cloak is basically a liability to naruto in this fight.
Sasuke's offense is amaterasu. Sasuke can amaterasu him , BM cloak doesn't protect him from amaterasu.
You can see, in raikage vs sasuke fight, amaterasu burnt raikage hand even when he was wearing his armour which means amaterasu can burn the body directly even when armour is present.
4. Kage Bunshins.
pretty much this.
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5. Summoning
Amaterasu > summoning.
Also naruto would not want to risk his summoning like that.
6. Rasengan
Chidori !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7. Sexy no jutsu.
:|
8. Sage mode
It requires too much time for naruto to come into SM . Also naruto has to stay at one place and he can't run and get into SM at same time. So basically in such situation, naruto would be begging to get amaterasu.
9. Sensing.
Naruto failed to sense amaterasu in KM (against itachi fight) .
Maybe he can sense in SM but there is no manga proof for that. He can go into SM (read point 8) , so that hardly matters.
Sensing might help him a bit in the battle though.
10. Flying rasen shuriken.
Same as biiju dama. Most likely susano can tank it.
i am still bored
Oh ya, i forgot to mention one thing.
INTELLIGENCE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAW POWER.
We have seen number of times, an intelligent ninja, despite of being physically weaker than the opposing side, wins the match.
Like shikamaru fights, itachi fights (against nagato,kabuto for example) etc.
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