Jiraiya > kakashi ?? What manga are you reading?

[EZQ]

I saw a poll where jiraiya was wining against kakashi, and i honestly couldn't believe it... i mean, really?

Jiraiya is a beast in raw power, but c'mon , how does he counter kakashi's haxed kamui?

-If he wants to enter SM he's lost, a not moving target is too easy for kakashi to warp.

-If jiraiya had knowledge about kakashi's kamui and tried to fight in base mode, he gets warped too, he's not fast enough to dodge kamui being in base mode.


This is not character bashing, Jiraiya is truly awesome, but kakashi surpased him since the war arc started.

If jiraiya starts the fight in SM, then yes he sure could win if he is fast enough to dodge kamui (Current kakashi's kamui, wich is fast enough to warp BM naruto in front of obito's MS and Rinnengan and he not noticing)

 

[Madara mhm]

Until kakashi unlocked his mangekyou, he probaly still couldn't beat jiraiya...

Even itachi and kisame stated, even if both went up against him they'd have their names dragged through the dirt.

Which then itachi replied - "Every strong opponent has a Weakness" - Quoted from the Anime.

And during that time, itachi and kisame were both above kakashi.

 

[villain55]

Lol oh gawd that was my thread

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Almost all had proof and i agree with them

 

[Kettei]

lol. .

 

[Bieber]

Jiraiya's SM > Kakashi's kamui.

 

[FleeOnSight]

I don't think Kakashi could handle multiple toad summons at once.

 

[EZQ]

I don't think Kakashi could handle multiple toad summons at once.

V2 jins > toad summons , also kakashi can point kamui at jiraiya before the toads atack, he can easely do that, his kamui is a lot faster than those frogs

 

[hyuuga teddy]

I still think itachi and kisame could have taken j-man on. Itach said "we don't need unnecessary injuries" and not deaths

 

[EZQ]

I still think itachi and kisame could have taken j-man on. Itach said "we don't need unnecessary injuries" and not deaths

Itachi > Jiraiya

Kisame > Jiraiya

Both win high diff, but together its overkill, itachi didn't want to get unnesesary injuries as you say

 

[sagemode07]

Kakashi couldnt even take on one pain, let alone 3 at once and win. GET OOUUUTTTTTAAAA HEEEERRRRREEEEE

 

[Prime Rib]

its simple for a fact kakashi had knowledge of pain and still lost against him easily.

next jiriya almost soloed nagato without knowledge of his skills, as even him stated if his master had any knowledge of his secret he would won easily. nagato was amazed by his old master skills

 

[Sacrosanct]

... And they always fall back on kamui.

 

[Nous]

Most people limit Kamui in a versus or look at overall feats. Or limit Kamui with Kakashi at least. If you limit it with Obito, it's hard to imagine such a battle.

 

[blackstar9]

all ot said was kamui this kamui that . When kakashi actually one shots an opponent ill buy that . Jiraiya over kakashi in my opinion

 

[BlackDude]

Dam this thread fails.. MS Kakashi with Kamui beats Jiraya bad

 

[ntel]

Jirayia does get beaten only because of Kamui.

Other then that Jirayia >Kakashi

If Jirayia can avoid kamui then he has this in the bag

 

[Logical Chaos]

Someone explain to me how does Jiraya beat Kakashi. J-Man is no were near fast enough to dodge Kamui.
Jiraya would win if kamui wasn't involved.

 

[Multiply]

I'm reading the manga you're not apparently... *_*

 

[FlemSmack]

Jiraiya is far superior to Kakashi. Kakashi is probably the most overrated ninja on NB.

 

[nNoma]

Jiaraya's summons alone will give Kakashi a hard enough time. Jiaraya can put up a barrier which will give him an edge against Kakashi's superior speed until sage mode is ready, just like he did against Pain.

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Kamui is Kakashi's best bet here, because his lack of chakra puts him at a huge disadvantage in this fight. He has to end it fast with kamui or suffer defeat as the battle draws out. Jiaraya has too many long ranged attacks as well as barriers and seals which will help him isolate Kakashi and wear him out.

Once in sage mode, it's over for Kakashi. Kakashi is one of my favorite characters, but I'd go as far as saying base Jiaraya>Kakashi.