Madara and Hashirama (VotE) vs Akatsuki

[Zexion~]

oh .. it sounded like you said ... nvm

but ya hashi and madara win .. although i dont see them soloing .. ill leave it at that ..

 

[Booker]

Then what was the point of telling me they can't be seen with normal eyes when I was talking about the Sharingan?

No it doesn't. Not even close. If you have nothing useful to say don't reply.

Has nothing to do with this comment, but how will Madara know GSB absorbs chakra, and destroy it with a shockwave? He may try to just tank it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Has nothing to do with this comment, but how will Madara know GSB absorbs chakra, and destroy it with a shockwave? He may try to just tank it.

Didn't think about that....I assume this thread was set to manga knowledge. Should he decide not to counter and PS gets absorbed. Hashirama could probably protect him with Mokuton as Mokuton are real trees so things like Preta and GSB can't absorb it.

 

[blazekev90]

Madara and Hashi lose this, with not much of a fight.

Nagato and Tobi beat Madara mid difficulty

Everyone else beats Hashi low-mid difficultly

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Didn't think about that....I assume this thread was set to manga knowledge. Should he decide not to counter and PS gets absorbed. Hashirama could probably protect him with Mokuton as Mokuton are real trees so things like Preta and GSB can't absorb it.

GSB absorbs any ninjutsu. Wood Release is a ninjutsu.

 

[Zexion~]

GSB absorbs any ninjutsu. Wood Release is a ninjutsu.

even if its not Im sure GSB Could smash Through a basic mokuton defense .... Seeing as it is also a formidable offensive attack without the chakra absorption as well .. most people tend to forget that

 

[blazekev90]

people are mentioning the Kyuubi, but last time I checked Tobi was able to control the Kyuubi as well. Without the Kyuubi, Nagato solos EMS Madara mid difficulty

Hashi has no counter for Deidara's Co, Sasori's poison or iron sand, Kisame's shark bullet, Itachi's sword, Kakuzu who already have prior knowledge from their first fight, Konon given enough prep for paper bomb. Zetsu clones, Itachi's KA, etc

Akatsuki wins low difficulty

 

[Booker]

Didn't think about that....I assume this thread was set to manga knowledge. Should he decide not to counter and PS gets absorbed. Hashirama could probably protect him with Mokuton as Mokuton are real trees so things like Preta and GSB can't absorb it.

Probably should have clarified that they have no knowledge on each other. But yeah, GSB isn't getting past Mokuton either way.

even if its not Im sure GSB Could smash Through a basic mokuton defense .... Seeing as it is also a formidable offensive attack without the chakra absorption as well .. most people tend to forget that

GSB has no chance against any Mokuton.

 

[KidGamer65]

GSB absorbs any ninjutsu. Wood Release is a ninjutsu.

Mokuton are real trees. When GSB can absorb trees then we can talk.

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Databook on Mokuton:

A unique secret technique that creates life, tearing through the ground!!

A legendary technique that turns chakra into a source of life.

DB entries of various Mokuton techniques.
Mokubunshin:

A clone created by altering one's own cells with chakra.

Databook 3 - Mokuton: Daijurin no Jutsu:

A technique that changes one's own arm into big trees. Using chakra, the cells are transformed into trees. Then, by activating the trees, stimulating them to grow rapidly, they lengthen at high speed and fork into many branches.

Databook 3 - Mokuton: Mokujouheki:

This technique uses chakra to activate the roots in the ground and...

Databook 3 - Mokuton: Shichuuka no Jutsu:

By sending chakra into the ground, the roots of the plants are converted into raw materials.

Yang represents physical energy, it governs life. Mokuton being real trees is further supported by this scan.

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Naruto's Yang Chakra accelerated the growth of the Mokuton near it, causing leaves to sprout on it.

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Zetsu, who have a makeup similar to plants were turned into trees due to Naruto's chakra.

Wood Dragon became a mini forest due to Naruto's chakra.

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Mokuton is life and no absorption jutsu can absorb it

even if its not Im sure GSB Could smash Through a basic mokuton defense .... Seeing as it is also a formidable offensive attack without the chakra absorption as well .. most people tend to forget that

Bijuu Dama's explosion only cracked a Mokuton dome of Hashirama's. GSB isn't doing anything to it.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Obito is a key man in akatsuki that can make their attacks work. Not to mention he could simply warp hashirama

 

[AGoodBoy]

Hidan is the biggest thread on Akatsuki because he is the only one who isn't blown away by 1 PS Bijuu-Dama :|

Madara solos.
Hashirama Solos.
Even Kurama can solo everyone except the top 3 akatsuki.

Madara - PS. Countless slashes blow them the **** away. There's be 3 left as soon as PS comes out; Itachi, Hidan and Obito. A few more slashes and itachi and obito die. Madara walks away from hidan. Giving him Kyuubi is just a joke. A very ****ed up joke.

Hashi - Bringer of darkness. Everyone but obito and itachi don't even know where the **** he is. Now, deidara is killing his entire team while obito and itachi fight mokuton bushins.

These 2 together + Kyuubi is a picnic. Infact, Madara and hashi just sit ontop of kurama while madara keeps kurama under his control and coats it with a susano'o armor. From there, kurama stomps akatsuki while hashi and madara sip tea and play shogu

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Mokuton are real trees. When GSB can absorb trees then we can talk.

Spoiler

Databook on Mokuton:

A unique secret technique that creates life, tearing through the ground!!

A legendary technique that turns chakra into a source of life.

DB entries of various Mokuton techniques.
Mokubunshin:

A clone created by altering one's own cells with chakra.

Databook 3 - Mokuton: Daijurin no Jutsu:

A technique that changes one's own arm into big trees. Using chakra, the cells are transformed into trees. Then, by activating the trees, stimulating them to grow rapidly, they lengthen at high speed and fork into many branches.

Databook 3 - Mokuton: Mokujouheki:

This technique uses chakra to activate the roots in the ground and...

Databook 3 - Mokuton: Shichuuka no Jutsu:

By sending chakra into the ground, the roots of the plants are converted into raw materials.

Yang represents physical energy, it governs life. Mokuton being real trees is further supported by this scan.

Spoiler

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Naruto's Yang Chakra accelerated the growth of the Mokuton near it, causing leaves to sprout on it.

Spoiler

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Zetsu, who have a makeup similar to plants were turned into trees due to Naruto's chakra.

Wood Dragon became a mini forest due to Naruto's chakra.

Spoiler

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Mokuton is life and no absorption jutsu can absorb it


Bijuu Dama's explosion only cracked a Mokuton dome of Hashirama's. GSB isn't doing anything to it.

Why arent you bolding the source of the justu.

I could argue that elements are really fire, water, earth, wind, and lighteining. At the end of the day the source comes through chakra that they add on to. So Yes GSB can Absorb the chakra from it

 

[KidGamer65]

Why arent you bolding the source of the justu.

I could argue that elements are really fire, water, earth, wind, and lighteining. At the end of the day the source comes through chakra that they add on to. So Yes GSB can Absorb the chakra from it

The source is Hashirama's life force (converted from chakra) which creates real trees. When GSB absorbs real trees then we can talk.

Hashirama's chakra---> Life Energy (Yang Energy) ----> Mokuton (Real Trees)

The 5 elements are made of pure chakra, Mokuton clearly isn't as multiple tree sprout from it when near Yang Release chakra. Proof that it is indeed life and real trees.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

The source is Hashirama's life force (converted from chakra) which creates real trees. When GSB absorbs real trees then we can talk.

Hashirama's chakra---> Life Energy (Yang Energy) ----> Mokuton (Real Trees)

The 5 elements are made of pure chakra, Mokuton clearly isn't as multiple tree sprout from it when near Yang Release chakra. Proof that it is indeed life and real trees.

Ok your right:devil:....Zzz

But everything else in used in the battle field will be screwed in contact.

 

[Fresco]

I believe Akatsuki would win.

The reason being is that since they're stuck in their VotE state and since the OP did not specify, Madara and Hashirama have no knowledge of any of the Akatsuki respective abilities. Through the usage of aerial combat, most of Akatsuki can avoid the effects of Flower Tree World; Deidara and Nagato alone have the ability to support all members through usage of clay birds and Rinnegan Summons. Obito, through the usage of Kamui or his

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, can effectively avoid the effects as well.

It would be best for Akatsuki if Madara and Hashirama brought out their biggest techniques. Why? It makes them stationary targets for Obito. Since the two have no knowledge on Kamui, they won't be prepared. During the fight, I highly doubt Madara and Hashirama will pay any attention to Obito given Kamui's ability to hide his presence. Knowing Hashirama, he'll probably utilize clones. That won't help Madara though. Chances are, he'll go first, leaving Hashirama alone by himself.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I believe Akatsuki would win.

The reason being is that since they're stuck in their VotE state and since the OP did not specify, Madara and Hashirama have no knowledge of any of the Akatsuki respective abilities. Through the usage of aerial combat, most of Akatsuki can avoid the effects of Flower Tree World; Deidara and Nagato alone have the ability to support all members through usage of clay birds and Rinnegan Summons. Obito, through the usage of Kamui or his

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, can effectively avoid the effects as well.

It would be best for Akatsuki if Madara and Hashirama brought out their biggest techniques. Why? It makes them stationary targets for Obito. Since the two have no knowledge on Kamui, they won't be prepared. During the fight, I highly doubt Madara and Hashirama will pay any attention to Obito given Kamui's ability to hide his presence. Knowing Hashirama, he'll probably utilize clones. That won't help Madara though. Chances are, he'll go first, leaving Hashirama alone by himself.

That assumes Obito can become tangible inside of PS since;
- The chakra may kill any intruders that the user doesn't want in there( like the way kyuubi cloaked naruto burnt orochimaru with it's chakra)
- The chakra may take up space -- that's how it blocks attacks -- with the user only leaving a tiny pocket in the center to move.

It really depends on whether obito can get to madara inside susano'o for your scenario to remotely work.

 

[KidGamer65]

I believe Akatsuki would win.

The reason being is that since they're stuck in their VotE state and since the OP did not specify, Madara and Hashirama have no knowledge of any of the Akatsuki respective abilities. Through the usage of aerial combat, most of Akatsuki can avoid the effects of Flower Tree World; Deidara and Nagato alone have the ability to support all members through usage of clay birds and Rinnegan Summons. Obito, through the usage of Kamui or his

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, can effectively avoid the effects as well.

It would be best for Akatsuki if Madara and Hashirama brought out their biggest techniques. Why? It makes them stationary targets for Obito. Since the two have no knowledge on Kamui, they won't be prepared. During the fight, I highly doubt Madara and Hashirama will pay any attention to Obito given Kamui's ability to hide his presence. Knowing Hashirama, he'll probably utilize clones. That won't help Madara though. Chances are, he'll go first, leaving Hashirama alone by himself.

Obito can't warp Madara through Susanoo and if Flower Tree World is used, how will Obito come out of the ground and go after Madara without being affected by the pollen?

Hashirama and Madara can easily knock any fliers back down into the pollen thus putting them to sleep.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Obito can't warp Madara through Susanoo and if Flower Tree World is used, how will Obito come out of the ground and go after Madara without being affected by the pollen?

jump
sidestep
kamui-dimension

 

[KidGamer65]

jump
sidestep
kamui-dimension

Jump out of a forest?
Sidestep out of a forest?
Warp Madara while he's in Susanoo?

Are you a fucking idiot or what?

Flower Tree World + Bunshin shit on Obito.

Don't reply again..cause you are either going to:

-Cry about how Itachi isn't overrated.
-Cry about how Madara solos him low diff.
-Spout more BS nonsense.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Jump out of a forest?
Sidestep out of a forest?
Warp Madara while he's in Susanoo?

Are you a fucking idiot or what?

Flower Tree World + Bunshin shit on Obito.

Don't reply again..cause you are either going to:

-Cry about how Itachi isn't overrated.
-Cry about how Madara solos him low diff.
-Spout more BS nonsense.

he can technically do it but I actually meant he can Kamui himself... also his teammate can fly and often starts the battle on a clay bird... Obito can just stay in the air

flaming as usuall
no Itachi gets beaten mid diff
Yata's hype is unbroken but PS was solo'd by Hashirama (yes ps is bigger but feats+hype >>> size)
also the 2.5 stamina is sick Itachi there's no proof that healthy Itachi had shitty stamina and was unable to keep his susanoo up for a long time