BM Minato>BM Naruto?

[ballerjordan]

First off, BM's speed is comparable to FTG. So really, nothing has changed for Minato there. And that being said, Minato is not speed blitzing Naruto.

Minato has not been confirmed to be a Sage, and most likely won't be a full one. At best he's an imperfect sage.
And Minato's only offensive technique is the rasengan too. Sooo, yep!

And your list.. NO... Sage of Six paths is way too Powerful to consider in the list. It's an obvious statement.

Kabuto DSM is possibly stronger than Minato, or equal to his strength.
As is Prime Nagato.

1: Hashirama/Edo Madara
2: EMS Madara/Obito
3: Obito/EMS Madara
4: Current Naruto
5: Prime Nagato
6: DSM Kabuto
7: EMS Sasuke (Lack of feats)/Edo Minato
8: Itachi/Living Minato
9: Minato/Itachi
10: Muu/Trollkage/Tobirama(assumption)/Hiruzen(Assumption)/3rd Raikage

Good list.

 

[saw2097]

Naruto will need another power up to reach Current Minato.Probably kishimoto will make Naruto use the tailbeast chakra stored in his body

It was established by Kurama that Naruto already surpass Minato.

 

[htmwall]

Naruto will need another power up to reach Current Minato.Probably kishimoto will make Naruto use the tailbeast chakra stored in his body

nah that chakra is reverved for one-time use only to stop the juubi.

 

[Jarex]

Minato just has only the yin chakra of the kyubi and only enter KM while naruto has the yang chakra and can also enter KM and this chakra was upgraded by kyubi during the war which made naruto more powerful and I think he is upgrading it the more as of now.

Naruto KM is stronger than that of minato. He can counter the ftg with the reflexes ofered by the KM and sage mode which has ultra fast reflexes.

I don't think minato is greater than naruto now

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

itachi trained so hard to get his power while minato stole kyuubi chakra from kurama to get his power up .

Get your facts right :stfu:


minato is so overrated for many reasons.
He didn't beat any strong ninja ..
He was struggling to beat 14 years old obito ..
While itachi soloed most strongest ninja in series like nagato
And orochimaru and deidara and kakashi in few sec

Itachi train to get his power?You do realize that Itachi was born into the second strongest clan in the history of the series, right?Also, MS isn't something that you get from training, it's cause by an emotional reaction.You also must know that that 14 years old Obito had MS and half his body was made up of Hashirama cells, which gave him a S/T ninjutsu better than Minato's and extreme power.

 

[MickNerks]

Naruto's BM > Minato's KCM

When Minato turns fodder to kage level then we can talk about which is greater. The ONLY thing minato has over naruto is teleportation.

Naruto has more chakra, more powerful techs, clones, OP sensing, Kurama, etc, ect..

Whoopty- Doo Minato has KCM. All this grants him is more speed.lol How about everybody hop of his genitalia.

Its always that same with this base. Someone shows a new ability and people ride his genitalia like its no tommorow. Next week you guys will be saying the Hiruzen and Tobirama are unbeatable after they show some OP jutsu that you have never seen before.lol

So predictable.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Itachi train to get his power?You do realize that Itachi was born into the second strongest clan in the history of the series, right?Also, MS isn't something that you get from training, it's cause by an emotional reaction.You also must know that that 14 years old Obito had MS and half his body was made up of Hashirama cells, which gave him a S/T ninjutsu better than Minato's and extreme power.

This thread is about minato and naruto not itachi and minato.We already know Itachi outclass Minato ,so stop complaining or changing this thread topic

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

First off, BM's speed is comparable to FTG. So really, nothing has changed for Minato there. And that being said, Minato is not speed blitzing Naruto.

Minato has not been confirmed to be a Sage, and most likely won't be a full one. At best he's an imperfect sage.
And Minato's only offensive technique is the rasengan too. Sooo, yep!

And your list.. NO... Sage of Six paths is way too Powerful to consider in the list. It's an obvious statement.

Kabuto DSM is possibly stronger than Minato, or equal to his strength.
As is Prime Nagato.

1: Hashirama/Edo Madara
2: EMS Madara/Obito
3: Obito/EMS Madara
4: Current Naruto
5: Prime Nagato
6: DSM Kabuto
7: EMS Sasuke (Lack of feats)/Edo Minato
8: Itachi/Living Minato
9: Minato/Itachi
10: Muu/Trollkage/Tobirama(assumption)/Hiruzen(Assumption)/3rd Raikage

Where in the manga does it show or state BM's speed is comparable to FTG? I hope you are not using Kakashi mistaking Naruto for Minato one moment as some sort of indication that BM is comparable to FTG because that would be foolish.Firstly, FTG isn't speed, it's instant teleportation.Biju mode can't be comparable to instant teleportation because Biju mode isn't instant.For example, if Minato and Naruto where both on one side of a mountain and were racing to get to the other side, Minato would always win because Minato would instantly appear on the other side of the mountain while BM Naruto would have to physically run over the mountain to get to the other side.As for Minato only offensive jutsu being rasengan, that is not realistic.For one, Kakashi has already stated that Minato created Rasengan to combine with his Nature element.So we know that Minato has at least master one nature element, and going by Kakashi words that most jonins have master at least two nature elements, Minato more than likely has master more than one nature element, completely disproving your "Minato only has rasengan comment.The more appropriate though from you should have been we have only seen one of Minato offensive jutsus.That one would still be wrong since finjutsu can be used for offense, but less wrong then believing Minato only has rasengan.Furthermore, Minato rasengan is more powerful than Naruto's rasengan base solely on the side being much larger than Naruto's rasengan when.

Wait, what??

He has Sage Mode just because Naruto had it?? Lmfao.

He has Sage Mode because he summoned Gamabunta? 12 Year old Naruto did that twice?

12 years old naruto needed Kurama's chakra to do it though.

 

[Champ]

He should be with Minato having Chakra mode, Naruto hasn't surpassed his father.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Minato doesn't have SM.

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[MickNerks]

Where in the manga does it show or state BM's speed is comparable to FTG? I hope you are not using Kakashi mistaking Naruto for Minato one moment as some sort of indication that BM is comparable to FTG because that would be foolish.Firstly, FTG isn't speed, it's instant teleportation.Biju mode can't be comparable to instant teleportation because Biju mode isn't instant.For example, if Minato and Naruto where both on one side of a mountain and were racing to get to the other side, Minato would always win because Minato would instantly appear on the other side of the mountain while BM Naruto would have to physically run over the mountain to get to the other side.As for Minato only offensive jutsu being rasengan, that is not realistic.For one, Kakashi has already stated that Minato created Rasengan to combine with his Nature element.So we know that Minato has at least master one nature element, and going by Kakashi words that most jonins have master at least two nature elements, Minato more than likely has master more than one nature element, completely disproving your "Minato only has rasengan comment.The more appropriate though from you should have been we have only seen one of Minato offensive jutsus.That one would still be wrong since finjutsu can be used for offense, but less wrong then believing Minato only has rasengan.Furthermore,Minato rasengan is more powerful than Naruto's rasengan base solely on the side being much larger than Naruto's rasengan when.

This didnt disprove anything. You are making speculations. There is no proof in the manga that minato has more that one narute element. Nor is there any proof that he has another offensive technique aside from rasengan and food cart destroyer.

Also your speculation that minato's rasengan is stronger than naruto's is also false.

Naruto's TBB Rasengan >>> Minato's rasengan.
Naruto's Rasenshuriken >>> Minato's rasengan
Naruto's Planetary Rasengan >>> Minato's rasengan.
Naruto's Wind Style Rasengan >> Minato's rasengan
Naruto's Sage Art Rasengan >>> Minato's rasengan
Naruto's Sage Art Big Ball Rasengan >>> Minato's rasengan


So how about you stop the speculating and overrating of Minato's abilities/.

 

[Draphsin]

EDO Minato is possibly stronger than naruto (in terms of actual strength), but we'll just have to wait & see U_U

 

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[ThilinaC]

Minato have Kyuubi Chakra Mode(KCM) while Naruto now have Biiju Mode(BM).And BM is the upgraded version of KCM.

So Minato's KCM < Naruto's BM
Check the damn markings man,Minato's KCM only have a cape because he was already wearing the Hokage cape :/

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[GodaimeRaikage]

This thread is about minato and naruto not itachi and minato.We already know Itachi outclass Minato ,so stop complaining or changing this thread topic

Stupid Itachi fanboys like yourself change the topic to Itachi.I just reponsed to a lie with the truth as shown in the manga.As you can see, assuming you can read and comprehend, the majority of my post have been about Minato and Naruto.

 

[Lilt]

Like I'm sure it's been said a billions times, Minato doesn't have BM.

KCM Naruto is arguably greater than KCM Minato too.

Naruto has clone spam and Sage jutsu; Minato has Hiraishin and Rasengan.

 

[MickNerks]

He should be with Minato having Chakra mode, Naruto hasn't surpassed his father.

Sorry sir, but it seems that the manga strongly disagrees with you.

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[GodaimeRaikage]

This didnt disprove anything. You are making speculations. There is no proof in the manga that minato has more that one narute element. Nor is there any proof that he has another offensive technique aside from rasengan and food cart destroyer.

Also your speculation that minato's rasengan is stronger than naruto's is also false.

Naruto's TBB Rasengan >>> Minato's rasengan.
Naruto's Rasenshuriken >>> Minato's rasengan
Naruto's Planetary Rasengan >>> Minato's rasengan.
Naruto's Wind Style Rasengan >> Minato's rasengan
Naruto's Sage Art Rasengan >>> Minato's rasengan
Naruto's Sage Art Big Ball Rasengan >>> Minato's rasengan


So how about you stop the speculating and overrating of Minato's abilities/.

How about you learn to read and comprehend.

My words, "Minato more than likely has master more than one nature element".The key words being more than likely, I never said he did.Furthermore, I was responding to a poster who said minato only offensive jutsu is rasengan,which I responded with "Kakashi has already stated that Minato created Rasengan to combine with his Nature element" which is why i said "completely disproving your Minato only has rasengan comment".

Now on to your ridiculous comment that "there any proof that he has another offensive technique aside from rasengan and food cart destroyer". This stupidity is easily disproven with the fact that minato is a master of finjutsu that can be used for offensive.Also, Kakashi words, that Minato created rasengan to combine with his nature element.Now only way you discredited this as proof Minato has other offensive jutsu is, you believe Kakashi is lying about Minato, which would be silly, or you think Minato master a Nature element but only in the sense of defensive jutsus, which would be ridiculous.


As for Minato's Rasengan being stronger than Naruto, I was talking about Rasengan, not anything variation of rasengan.But that is my fought for not clarifying .

Now hopefully next time you respond to one of my comment, you will first comprehend what I said, and not what you believed I said.I never overrated Minato's abilities, and speculation when using manga facts as a source is completely find.If NB users then speculate, it would be a lot fewer threads and debates.

 

[Fodder#4]

Where in the manga does it show or state BM's speed is comparable to FTG? I hope you are not using Kakashi mistaking Naruto for Minato one moment as some sort of indication that BM is comparable to FTG because that would be foolish.Firstly, FTG isn't speed, it's instant teleportation.Biju mode can't be comparable to instant teleportation because Biju mode isn't instant.For example, if Minato and Naruto where both on one side of a mountain and were racing to get to the other side, Minato would always win because Minato would instantly appear on the other side of the mountain while BM Naruto would have to physically run over the mountain to get to the other side.As for Minato only offensive jutsu being rasengan, that is not realistic.For one, Kakashi has already stated that Minato created Rasengan to combine with his Nature element.So we know that Minato has at least master one nature element, and going by Kakashi words that most jonins have master at least two nature elements, Minato more than likely has master more than one nature element, completely disproving your "Minato only has rasengan comment.The more appropriate though from you should have been we have only seen one of Minato offensive jutsus.That one would still be wrong since finjutsu can be used for offense, but less wrong then believing Minato only has rasengan.Furthermore, Minato rasengan is more powerful than Naruto's rasengan base solely on the side being much larger than Naruto's rasengan when.

12 years old naruto needed Kurama's chakra to do it though.

I don't exactly see the problem with comparing Kakashi's statement that Naruto's movements were so fast, in BM, that he mistook him for Minato. It speaks volumes on how fast Naruto has become. When you're compared with a teleportation technique. For Kakashi to even make the mistake of thinking it was Minato out there... Yeah, sure. BM is clearly near FTG speed.

And yes, I know FTG is not actual speed but just Minato reverse summoning himself.

And yes, as of now Minato's only offensive ability is the Rasengan. You can assume that he has other jutsu under his belt, but what are they? We don't know. That's not a sound argument at all. Because you can't just say that Minato has other offensive jutsu, probably does, but he hasn't shown any of them. How do you plan on saying Minato harms Naruto or is better/is more powerful than him when Naruto has made more variants to the rasengan than Minato.

Planetary, Rasenshuriken, Giant Rasengan, and doesn't he have some more powerful KCM/BM Rasengan now too?

And I don't think his chakra nature was confirmed. It could be seen that Kishi hinted at that it was wind. But we clearly don't know. And what of Minato's oh so impressive sealing techniques shown to us are capable of taking down a shinobi of similar speed, and this enemy happens to have more advanced forms of the users only known offensive jutsu?

RDS? Doubtful.

The seal he placed on Obito, that rids the summoners control of their summons? The toads would be neutral/aren't controlled by Naruto. Useless.

Minato is certainly not stronger than his son.

 

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