Popular Myths and Untruths About Naruto

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"Orochimaru can't use Edo Tensei to fight, Hashirama will just break loose!"

First of all, let's get something straight. Hashirama didn't break out of Edo Tensei, he broke out of his restriction of movement. Big difference.

As for the myth, Orochimaru can (and most likely will) use Edo Tensei to his own ends. What's stopping him from just unsummoning Hashirama and using the others?

"EMS Sasuke and BM Naruto are equal"

This may seem like opinion at first, and could go either way, but the fact of the matter is that BM Naruto is far above EMS Sasuke- and will only improve. As you will recall, when Sasuke sensed Naruto's chakra, he was worried. Naruto has become too fast and too powerful for Sasuke.

"Sasuke defeated Danzo!"

Sasuke himself did NOT defeat Danzo.

Danzo, in his own right, is top ten material. However with most characters being victim of plot, Danzo had to die. However, what people seem to forget is that Danzo did in fact have Sasuke beat- and Danzo was at a handicap. If Karin had not been there to alert Sasuke, Sasuke would currently be dead. This whole fight took place while Danzo was saving his KA as well, which would have been an effective tool against Sasuke.

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Hashirama can make handseals and break out of edo tensei . Just like how madara did it. And kabuto cannot unsummon edo out of his control as seen with itachi.

Kishi himself stated that naruto and sasuke will always remain equal. Naruto also said, if they ever fight again, they would both die . <--- manga fact right there.
With This only one thing can be concluded, sasuke = Naruto.
Also, EMS sasuke hasn't shown his powers so you cannot come to this conclusion.

Just like how "naruto defeat pain, naruto defeated gaara, naruto defeated kakuzu" , this fight was also filled with plot shield. But danzo obtained ability to use KA when he was left with 1 3t sharingan, and still he didn't used it on sasuke because he thought he could defeat him without KA. Apparently he was wrong.
 

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Naruto gets help all the time

Sasuke haters just cant see that danzo was a useless fodder in that fight. He god some good hits yeah but on paper he should've stomped sasuke with izanagi.

Danzo was garbage for that whole fight, Lol.
Danzo was not a fodder...because then Sasuke would be one to because Danzo gave Sasuke a hard time..so are you saying Sasuke had to use genjutsu and sasano on a fodder just to beat him and not to mention Danzo killed himself -.- which was kinda cool but also stupid
 

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Im 'CURSING' because all you people ever do on this site is try to diminish any little prestige to sasuke's victories, by saying he got help, or he wouldn't have beat this without that. That sh*t gets annoying and tiring. It seems you people are so oblivious to the fact naruto get alot of damn help too. But most you can't see because of the constant naruto d*ckriding.
why is it such a put down to get help... most of the time im just argueing the fact that ppl keep saying he keeps beating all these ppl by himself, which is not true... winning a battle is winning a battle but give everyone in the battle credit for it... example: sasuke beat itachi by himself (sickness and intention aside), plain and dry he won... naruto did not beat pain by himself he had all the toads with him, plus hinata, plus the chakra reminents of minato... sasuke got outside help in many of his fights and there for ppl cannot tell me he can solo all these ppl, cause he cant...
 

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why is it such a put down to get help... most of the time im just argueing the fact that ppl keep saying he keeps beating all these ppl by himself, which is not true... winning a battle is winning a battle but give everyone in the battle credit for it... example: sasuke beat itachi by himself (sickness and intention aside), plain and dry he won... naruto did not beat pain by himself he had all the toads with him, plus hinata, plus the chakra reminents of minato... sasuke got outside help in many of his fights and there for ppl cannot tell me he can solo all these ppl, cause he cant...
You said like a Boss ^.^
 

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Danzo was not a fodder...because then Sasuke would be one to because Danzo gave Sasuke a hard time..so are you saying Sasuke had to use genjutsu and sasano on a fodder just to beat him and not to mention Danzo killed himself -.- which was kinda cool but also stupid
Danzo is supposed to be a powerful ninja, the way he utilized izanagi was no better than a mere gennin using substitution jutsus. Danzo wasted 10 free lives for literally nothing. If danzo was smarter & thought like a true intelligent ninja, then sasuke would've blinded himself before danzo could even waste half of his lives.

Obito with izanagi fodderized konan with 1 use, & this is with info on his kamui...Danzo clearly didnt value his own life, because he had 10 of them...
 

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Sir you did not answer my question...friends? lol and I know that gets annoying but people are like that maybe you should do a thread about how Naruto needs help to without cursing ^.^
Sure I guess, its just when I thread with VEEERY misleading titles like this, when it's just another sasuke hating thread in disguise, it pisses me off.
 

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Danzo is supposed to be a powerful ninja, the way he utilized izanagi was no better than a mere gennin using substitution jutsus. Danzo wasted 10 free lives for literally nothing. If danzo was smarter & thought like a true intelligent ninja, then sasuke would've blinded himself before danzo could even waste half of his lives.

Obito with izanagi fodderized konan with 1 use, & this is with info on his kamui...Danzo clearly didnt value his own life, because he had 10 of them...
and one more thing if not for tobi saskue probably would had died with danzo because tobi yelled at sasuke to get out...sasuke was like dafuq lol but yes sasuke one
 

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why is it such a put down to get help... most of the time im just argueing the fact that ppl keep saying he keeps beating all these ppl by himself, which is not true... winning a battle is winning a battle but give everyone in the battle credit for it... example: sasuke beat itachi by himself (sickness and intention aside), plain and dry he won... naruto did not beat pain by himself he had all the toads with him, plus hinata, plus the chakra reminents of minato... sasuke got outside help in many of his fights and there for ppl cannot tell me he can solo all these ppl, cause he cant...
Yeah but what ticks me off is when Sasuke can ONLY recieve help to win fights. There's MORE threads about sasuke getting than any other character, which is freaking stupid.
 

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and one more thing if not for tobi saskue probably would had died with danzo because tobi yelled at sasuke to get out...sasuke was like dafuq lol but yes sasuke one
Yeah im sot saying that sasuke didnt get saved, but danzo was almost completely useless for that fight. Plot made danzo retarded :p.
 

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Danzo was not a fodder...because then Sasuke would be one to because Danzo gave Sasuke a hard time..so are you saying Sasuke had to use genjutsu and sasano on a fodder just to beat him and not to mention Danzo killed himself -.- which was kinda cool but also stupid
i love it wen ppl use suicide attacks after being beat, its a true warrior... u just want to sit there and die, or are u gonna take the victory away from your opponent and try to take them with u...
 

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Naruto = Sasuke
It is complete and utter speculation that Naruto is above sasuke.

Brute force can't get through susano'o and we've explicitly seen a susano'o (madara's) tank a tbb.
Furthermore, Sasuke's susano'o fights primarily with Amaterasu. You have to fight 7 day fire while dodging high speed attacks and getting through impecable defence. Naruto's only defence is KCM.

A popular misconception is that naruto is OP when infact he has 8 minutes of BM (which takes a LONG time to recover) and 5 minutes of SM(if he ever actually gets time to meditate and go into it). Without these, he only has KCM, and that would be primarily used to keep himself from burning alive from amaterasu. For that matter, Naruto wouldn't be able to hit sasuke without chakra arms because of Enton Defence. Hitting him with anything but jutsu would be limb-suicide.

In conclussion, Naruto isn't above Sasuke and it's only speculation he is. We don't know how long Sasuke can hold Susano'o (especially since he shows no more strain with his EMS) and we don't know if he can evolve to the last stage (PS) with just a little more hate push.

Orochimaru's Edos
Orochimaru has complete control over his Edo's. People say hashi can break free but that is completely false.
Firstly, Orochimaru stated that he gave them free will. This means that they already have the ability to think whether or not they want to be controlled by ORo. If oro has to use them in a fight; Before awakening them, He'd implant Memory Tags into their necks like what was done before by both him and Kabuto. Hashi cannot break free of ET when he cannot think, and Orochimaru can use him as a mindless zombie again.

Kabuto Beat Itachi

This is the biggest misconception.

Firstly; Sasuke, Nor itachi wanted to kill the guy and infact never intended to. A simple amaterasu would completely shatter him as he wouldn't be able to hozuki or heal out of it. Furthermore, he'd have to oral rebirth, in which case he can be grabbed like before, and amaterasu'd again. There'd be absolutely no escape for him.

Secondly, The only times itachi got hurt was when he risked his immortal body to protect sasuke. If not for sasuke, itachi would literally have never gotten hurt. He'd simply use his susano'o on himself, or not jump infront of sasuke. For that matter, Sasuke did about nothing in that fight, yet kabuto could land not a single scratch on him. That is simply pathetic for a guy who is so overrated as being so strong.

Hydrification - It isn't always active and he was shown to be hurt and had to subsequently heal. Also, It isn't even true huzoki hydrification, but a modified one. He hasn't shown the ability to turn himself into a body of water like suigetsu.

White rage - Itachi was still able to use susano'o to protect sasuke even through this 'OP' jutsu that NB likes to camp on. This already throws this jutsu into the garbage can.

Tayuya's genjutsu - There is nothing stating itachi couldn't break out of the genjutsu on his own. For that matter, It is highly likely that he simply wanted to make sure sasuke would get out, and hence why he told sasuke to look into his eye - he never asked sasuke for help, or even hinted that sasuke needed to help him break out. Through the progression of the fight, and the way itachi literally blocked sasuke from every single one of kkabuto's jutsu, it goes to say that he simply wanted to make sure sasuke could get out as it would be wreckless to break his immortal body out, but leave his human brother immobile. Him knowing that he was clearly the better genjutsu user of the two solidifies any reason for him doubting whether sasuke could break out. This is solidified by the fact that even shikamaru broke out of the jutsu with one of the lowest techniques to break out of genjutsu - pain. Therefore, thinking someone of itachi's calibre, who can reverse genjutsu, can't break out of that kind of genjutsu (even when SM enhanced) is simply ridiculous. It took little effort for them to even break each other out. PAralysing genjutsu which doesn't affect any of the senses isn't that powerful.

Any of the other sound 5 jutsu - Blocked/Dodged effortlessly.

Muki tensei - Didn't even scratch sasuke. A dead guy completely defended the jutsu with only his body, therefore debunking it as any sort of OP jutsu.

In conclussion: The need to activate hydrification manually. The need to first use sakon's jutsu before being able to use any of the other sound 4. And the ability of an opponent to still be able to use jutsu during white rage all refute any claims that kabuto is remotely an OP character. For that matter, he has to get into SM for any of these abilities, and he can be long killed before that even happens.

ReZ said:
Ahahaha,Madara canceled the unsommoning,what makes you think HASHIRAMA,brother of the creator,can't do the same?Madara stated itself that if you know the seals of Edo Tensei you can undo the unsommoning.And Orochimaru can't bind Hashirama so he can "break loose" whenever he wants.
COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FALSE.
Madara Re-Summoned himself After ET was Cancelled. The only way hashi can truely break out of Oro's control is to get an outside source to undo ET.
 

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Yeah but what ticks me off is when Sasuke can ONLY recieve help to win fights. There's MORE threads about sasuke getting than any other character, which is freaking stupid.
then wat you need to do is realize that about 80% or more of all fights that have taken place in the series have been team fights of some sort, and that there are very lil characters that have actually gone one on one with each other... my opinion of a one vs one battle anyway (which means no summons either)... so u find a thread like that then u do wat i do, u post a list of fights where one of the people in the fight got help to win (it is a very long list)...
 

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then wat you need to do is realize that about 80% or more of all fights that have taken place in the series have been team fights of some sort, and that there are very lil characters that have actually gone one on one with each other... my opinion of a one vs one battle anyway (which means no summons either)... so u find a thread like that then u do wat i do, u post a list of fights where one of the people in the fight got help to win (it is a very long list)...
I understand that and am aware that most of the fights are team-oriented. THAT'S why I'm so mad. But I'll wait for a better time to make lists, im on a barely supportive ps3's internet.
 

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For people that say Hashirama/Tobirama can break the contract before they are unsummoned. Look ath this scan

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Unsummoning is instant (even faster than Oonoki can form his Jinton).

2. Sasuke is only as strong as Naruto ( authors words > how situation looks right now) but I can see how you came to your statement because BM is amazing.

3. Danzo vs sasuke: Sasuke defeated Danzo legitimately at this stage:
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BUT he did have other help from Karin and could have died, which would have made it a draw:
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Naruto = Sasuke
It is complete and utter speculation that Naruto is above sasuke.

Brute force can't get through susano'o and we've explicitly seen a susano'o (madara's) tank a tbb.
Furthermore, Sasuke's susano'o fights primarily with Amaterasu. You have to fight 7 day fire while dodging high speed attacks and getting through impecable defence. Naruto's only defence is KCM.

A popular misconception is that naruto is OP when infact he has 8 minutes of BM (which takes a LONG time to recover) and 5 minutes of SM(if he ever actually gets time to meditate and go into it). Without these, he only has KCM, and that would be primarily used to keep himself from burning alive from amaterasu. For that matter, Naruto wouldn't be able to hit sasuke without chakra arms because of Enton Defence. Hitting him with anything but jutsu would be limb-suicide.

In conclussion, Naruto isn't above Sasuke and it's only speculation he is. We don't know how long Sasuke can hold Susano'o (especially since he shows no more strain with his EMS) and we don't know if he can evolve to the last stage (PS) with just a little more hate push.

Orochimaru's Edos
Orochimaru has complete control over his Edo's. People say hashi can break free but that is completely false.
Firstly, Orochimaru stated that he gave them free will. This means that they already have the ability to think whether or not they want to be controlled by ORo. If oro has to use them in a fight; Before awakening them, He'd implant Memory Tags into their necks like what was done before by both him and Kabuto. Hashi cannot break free of ET when he cannot think, and Orochimaru can use him as a mindless zombie again.

Kabuto Beat Itachi

This is the biggest misconception.

Firstly; Sasuke, Nor itachi wanted to kill the guy and infact never intended to. A simple amaterasu would completely shatter him as he wouldn't be able to hozuki or heal out of it. Furthermore, he'd have to oral rebirth, in which case he can be grabbed like before, and amaterasu'd again. There'd be absolutely no escape for him.

Secondly, The only times itachi got hurt was when he risked his immortal body to protect sasuke. If not for sasuke, itachi would literally have never gotten hurt. He'd simply use his susano'o on himself, or not jump infront of sasuke. For that matter, Sasuke did about nothing in that fight, yet kabuto could land not a single scratch on him. That is simply pathetic for a guy who is so overrated as being so strong.

Hydrification - It isn't always active and he was shown to be hurt and had to subsequently heal. Also, It isn't even true huzoki hydrification, but a modified one. He hasn't shown the ability to turn himself into a body of water like suigetsu.

White rage - Itachi was still able to use susano'o to protect sasuke even through this 'OP' jutsu that NB likes to camp on. This already throws this jutsu into the garbage can.

Tayuya's genjutsu - There is nothing stating itachi couldn't break out of the genjutsu on his own. For that matter, It is highly likely that he simply wanted to make sure sasuke would get out, and hence why he told sasuke to look into his eye - he never asked sasuke for help, or even hinted that sasuke needed to help him break out. Through the progression of the fight, and the way itachi literally blocked sasuke from every single one of kkabuto's jutsu, it goes to say that he simply wanted to make sure sasuke could get out as it would be wreckless to break his immortal body out, but leave his human brother immobile. Him knowing that he was clearly the better genjutsu user of the two solidifies any reason for him doubting whether sasuke could break out. This is solidified by the fact that even shikamaru broke out of the jutsu with one of the lowest techniques to break out of genjutsu - pain. Therefore, thinking someone of itachi's calibre, who can reverse genjutsu, can't break out of that kind of genjutsu (even when SM enhanced) is simply ridiculous. It took little effort for them to even break each other out. PAralysing genjutsu which doesn't affect any of the senses isn't that powerful.

Any of the other sound 5 jutsu - Blocked/Dodged effortlessly.

Muki tensei - Didn't even scratch sasuke. A dead guy completely defended the jutsu with only his body, therefore debunking it as any sort of OP jutsu.

In conclussion: The need to activate hydrification manually. The need to first use sakon's jutsu before being able to use any of the other sound 4. And the ability of an opponent to still be able to use jutsu during white rage all refute any claims that kabuto is remotely an OP character. For that matter, he has to get into SM for any of these abilities, and he can be long killed before that even happens.


COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FALSE.
Madara Re-Summoned himself After ET was Cancelled. The only way hashi can truely break out of Oro's control is to get an outside source to undo ET.
one thing i have noticed once or twice now... naruto seems to be getting really quick with going into sage mode...we have seen power render damage to susanoo (both madara's and sasuke's) .... using strong ninjutsu attacks cannot be defended with amaterasu, only physical (and even then if the person doesnt mind being on fire it doesnt absorb any of the force)... naruto is faster than sasuke... naruto's best defense is his awareness and durability (no im not saying he can take a direct hit from a weapon or peircing attack but blunt attacks yes)... naruto's biggest weakness against sasuke remains genjutsu (which is a game winner used properly)... u cannot cancel edo tensei to break free of it and become an immortal being, the most you can do is be broken from the control of it, u break the spell itself and u just turn to ash and a dead body...
 

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For people that say Hashirama/Tobirama can break the contract before they are unsummoned. Look ath this scan

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Unsummoning is instant (even faster than Oonoki can form his Jinton).
Please explain why kabuto didnt do it to itachi then
 
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