Why Hebi Sasuke > Sage Mode Naruto.

[Prestonyoko]

Hebi Sasuke

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Sage Mode Naruto (Pain Arc)

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Here is why

People will probably say that Sage Mode Naruto > Hebi Sasuke but this is false.

Here's a list of all the abilities of Naruto has to use against Sasuke.

Rasengan

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How Sasuke can obviously counter this?

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Chidori

Summoning Jutsu

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Sasuke can use his own Summoning Jutsu to defeat Gamabunta

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Sage Mode

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Sasuke has Curse Mark + Sharingan + Curse Mark + Orochimaru's Chakra to keep up with Sage Mode Reflexes

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And Sasuke can use Hidden Shadow Snakes to help him in Taijutsu as well

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Kurama

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Sasuke can use his Ocular Powers to supress Kurama

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Rasenshuriken

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Sasuke cannot tank this Jutsu but he could possibly avoid it with the reflexes of Sharingan and Speed of Curse Mark

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And even if he did get hit by it, it could all be an illusion to Naruto, Sasuke can put Naruto in Sharingan Genjutsu just by looking into his eyes and Kurama won't help him and if he did then he would of when Itachi put him in Genjutsu

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Just like when Deidara thought he killed Sasuke

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Overview

Sasuke can manage to kill Naruto by using Katon and setting up Kirin and once that is set up Naruto can't avoid this at all and will die once he has been struck.

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Thoughts?

And READ THE THREAD before making a stupid comment.

 

[Uchiha Shikiruire]

How can sasuke counter that ?
NARUTO WASNT IN SAGE MODE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
It would indeed put up a good fight but you can ignore all the facts you have because Naruto is the main character and he will win no matter what

 

[Amaterasuice]

So you're basically saying, Naruto in sage mode is stronger, but Hebi Sasuke is just a bad match up for him?

If so, maybe I agree.

 

[SHikakeyromeDARA]

isn't that f*cking obvious?

 

[Sephy100]

People wont' probably say they definitely will say.

 

[Bieber]

Sasuke didn't have CM during Pain Arc. Itachi removed it during their fight. In SM Naruto's jutsu are improved so, Chidori can't beat a SA: BBR. Naruto can summon more than just Gamabunta; He has Gamaken and Gamahiro too.


His only problems are Genjutsu and Kirin. They are most likely equal.

 

[King Of Crows]

So Kirin is something that can be set up instantly and used instantly :| ! Sure, why not !!

OT: SM Naruto annihilates

 

[Prestonyoko]

People wont' probably say they definitely will say.

What? :|

isn't that f*cking obvious?

Somebody's in a bad mood today :snick:

So you're basically saying, Naruto in sage mode is stronger, but Hebi Sasuke is just a bad match up for him?

If so, maybe I agree.

Well the thread was about Hebi Sasuke defeating Naruto, but im starting to think their about even

How can sasuke counter that ?
NARUTO WASNT IN SAGE MODE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
It would indeed put up a good fight but you can ignore all the facts you have because Naruto is the main character and he will win no matter what

Counter What? Read the thread

 

[Kurama2012]

sage mode naruto beats hebi sasuke bro kirin takes a long time to prep and naruto could beat him before he gets it ready

 

[~Zonta~]

• Kirin is a powerful tech but the preparation time required also decreases the technique's efficiency.
• If there are no active thunder clouds, the user must create them by using powerful fire techniques to produce the necessary storm conditions.

So are you saying that Sasuke should look for weather forecast and then fight with Naruto ?????

Plus Naruto's SM not only drastically increase the strength of all ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu but also his perceptions ability in which he can sense and dodge any attack at the last instant.

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

No, Naruto SM >...> Hebi Sasuke.

 

[Sephy100]

What? :|

You put People will probably say..."
so that's why I responded with what I said. Do you not even read what you say?

 

[pandu]

1)I believe sage mode reflexes to be on par with that of the sharingan's own.
2)If sasuke summons manda,he'll exhaust his chakra reserves and I don't think we need to be reminded about naruto's chakra pool :erm:.
3)Sage mode naruto is a sensor.It's impossible to sneak up on him or attack him from his blind spot.He can even extend the nature energy around his body to attack sasuke.
4)Rasen shuriken is naruto's strongest technique and sasuke without susanoo will be fodderized by it's sheer destructive power.
5)Sasuke can't supress the kyuubi when naruto is in 4 tails or 6 tails form.Why??
When sasuke did that,naruto wasn't ready for combat and there's no way he will try to use ocular powers on something as destructive and mobile as 4tails or 6tails Naruto.

 

[magus zeal]

is this a joke there is no way hebi sasuke can beat sage mode naruto also hebi and taka sasuke are the same person so you are just asking can sasuke beat naruto.... XD

 

[ballerjordan]

You can't be serious mang.

Sage Mode Naruto > Hebi Sasuke

Kirin takes prep time

 

[xxSalamanderxx]

lets go with the basics,
Taijutsu, Naruto owns
Genjutsu, Sasuke Owns,
Ninjutsu, Naruto owns ( Kirin can be countered with Rasenshuriken due to wind nature beating lighting nature, also sasuke has one shot and naruto has two or more, depending if he had clones prepared)
the most important, Intelligence, if sasuke can figure out Sage Mode, then he wins, if not he loses

 

[Prestonyoko]

Sasuke didn't have CM during Pain Arc. Itachi removed it during their fight. In SM Naruto's jutsu are improved so, Chidori can't beat a SA: BBR. Naruto can summon more than just Gamabunta; He has Gamaken and Gamahiro too.


His only problems are Genjutsu and Kirin. They are most likely equal.

Yes we know Sasuke didn't have Curse Mark during the Pain Arc and Actually Naruto didn't "Summon" All of those frogs, they came with him. Remember? And I agree they are most likely equal. =D

So Kirin is something that can be set up instantly and used instantly :| ! Sure, why not !!

OT: SM Naruto annihilates

if you READ the thread word for word, You would of noticed in the overview I said Sasuke can "Set up" Kirin, Not use instantly,

Don't put word in my mouth :stfu:

sage mode naruto beats hebi sasuke bro kirin takes a long time to prep and naruto could beat him before he gets it ready

How can Naruto defeat Sasuke then....?

• Kirin is a powerful tech but the preparation time required also decreases the technique's efficiency.
• If there are no active thunder clouds, the user must create them by using powerful fire techniques to produce the necessary storm conditions.

So are you saying that Sasuke should look for weather forecast and then fight with Naruto ?????

Plus Naruto's SM not only drastically increase the strength of all ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu but also his perceptions ability in which he can sense and dodge any attack at the last instant.

Good Observations

No, Naruto SM >...> Hebi Sasuke.

You put People will probably say..."
so that's why I responded with what I said. Do you not even read what you say?

lol sorry

1)I believe sage mode reflexes to be on par with that of the sharingan's own.
2)If sasuke summons manda,he'll exhaust his chakra reserves and I don't think we need to be reminded about naruto's chakra pool :erm:.
3)Sage mode naruto is a sensor.It's impossible to sneak up on him or attack him from his blind spot.He can even extend the nature energy around his body to attack sasuke.
4)Rasen shuriken is naruto's strongest technique and sasuke without susanoo will be fodderized by it's sheer destructive power.
5)Sasuke can't supress the kyuubi when naruto is in 4 tails or 6 tails form.Why??
When sasuke did that,naruto wasn't ready for combat and there's no way he will try to use ocular powers on something as destructive and mobile as 4tails or 6tails Naruto.

Pain jumped over Rasenshuriken and his Rinnegan doesn't even enhance his reflexs and you don't think Sasuke can dodge it with all the speed he has? And yes Sasuke can, he can do it before Kurama even gives him Chakra, have you watched Sasuke Vs Naruto?

 

[Exaar]

Zetsu already admited that Sm naruto was stronger than 3tomoe sasuke (who had just unlocked Ms).

Adding the curse mark won't change all that much.

 

[mmmmm Soup]

Hebi Sasuke wouldn't beat pein where as Naruto did

I think he has more damaging techs to except maybe Kirin.

 

[ballerjordan]

1) Naruto's base rasengan (not wind nature, chakra manipulation) is strong enough to cancel out Sasuke's base chidori (Naruto transformation and chakra manipulation)

Naruto's rasengan in SM will easily take this. (Rasengan + Nature energy)

2) Sasuke will end up draining his chakra pool summoning Manda, kinda risky summoning him when Gamabunta can manage to hold him off

3) Sasuke's curse mark is no where near on par with Sage mode. Sage mode grants Naruto increased jutsu strength, speed, incredible reflexes, sensing and tai jutsu boost. Sasuke's tai jutsu won't stand a chance against frog kata

4) Naruto has about 3 trys with Rasenshuriken, it's destructive capability is far too strong for Sasuke to tank, he will easily be fodderized, also in SM, Rasenshuriken can enlarge where the target is

5) Sasuke can't suppress Naruto in 4 tails state, early part 2, Kurama was only agreeing to give Naruto a portion of his chakra which Sasuke managed to suppress.

SM Naruto >> Hebi Sasuke

Edit: Forgot Naruto can summon Gamaken and Gamahiro too. Manda's fodderized.
Also SM Naruto has much more durability.