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You must be joking. Going to the extents of Izanami ect. isn't even necessary. Firstly, Itachi's victory is already secured through the sharingan, his speed feats and Susano'o. I'll allow the Manga to explain.

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Most of those scans are Sasuke's Susano'os feats not Itachi's, and Itachi's Susano'o attacks with Totsuka blade. But Itachi won't be able to keep up with all 100 puppets and read Sasori's movements at the same time.
 

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Well then we'll have to agree that we disagree. U_U


Thank you :)

just so you know im not trying to make out that sasori cant beat itachi as i do believe he can but i do believe your underestimating itachi to the point that you believe sasori would beat itachi 100% of the time

and the only thing we will have to agree and disagree on is the whole genjutsu part
 

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Good thread, the problem with most people is that Itachi has so much hype that it's hard for people to believe he can lose to someone like Sasori, though imo it can go 50/50

Why don't you rap no more? :|

OT: Idk, I feel like you haven't analyzed Itachi enough. But than again, Sasori has proven himself well I think it can go either way just because Itachi is sick (guess that's his handicap)
 

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Most of those scans are Sasuke's Susano'os feats not Itachi's, and Itachi's Susano'o attacks with Totsuka blade. But Itachi won't be able to keep up with all 100 puppets and read Sasori's movements at the same time.

he would destroy 60/100 puppets in first few moments of battle. the key to beating itachi is a huge amount of puppets like that its a medium number that can keep him fighting for longer those 100 pupets were not overly strong and im guessing its because sasori cant control all of them as properly as he would maybe 50
 

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it chapter 269

i guess i was wrong about the controlling metal thing lol i just thought they where different types of magnet release like one for iron sand and gold dust just didnt think they could control other metals
 

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Most of those scans are Sasuke's Susano'os feats not Itachi's, and Itachi's Susano'o attacks with Totsuka blade. But Itachi won't be able to keep up with all 100 puppets and read Sasori's movements at the same time.

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How can you be Ignorant to the obvious fact that each Version of susano'o is able to perform basic CQC actions?

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None of sasori's puppets are getting pass Susano'o version 1 much less a Complete Susano'o' and they would all be severed by the Totsuka katana. As stated prior, Itachi could potentially one shot Sasori with Amatearsu unless you have scans of him performing reflexes at the level of Raiton V2?
 
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People should star argument with hiruko puppet with three tomoe itachi and get higher and higher. it'll much fun with that.
 

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How can you be Ignorant to the obvious fact that each Version of susano'o is able to perform basic CQC actions?

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None of sasori's puppets are getting pass Susano'o version 1 much less a Complete Susano'o' and they would all be severed by the Totsuka katana. As stated prior, Itachi could potentially one shot Sasori with Amatearsu unless you have scans of him performing reflexes at the level of Raiton V2?

actually about the amaterasu thing if sasori starts out in hiruko then itachi amaterasus straight away then sasori would have time to escape as well as attack itachi if he suffers the draw backs of amaterasu the itachi would have revealed his more powerful attacks straight away which would put sasori on alert mode so he could then bring out more puppets who could serve as sasoris second body, if itachi decides to amaterasu again which could seriously leave itachi open but i see sasori only switching bodys once as itachi would know that the core is the target
 

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Just read FloriGlori's posts. I once thought Sasori would win, this changed my perspective. Itachi is just too damn good U_U
 

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This thread wasn't only made by me. Edo GwemBaba, ~Puppet Master~, Sunagura, Izuna Kakashi Senju, theTobiramaSenju, HiddenSound, Masked Man, Sage of All Shinobi helped as well.

Why Sasori wins this battle:​

Katon/Suiton Techniques

These really aren't a problem seeing as how they can easily be tanked by Iron Sand or evaded so I'm not going to explain anything more.

Tsukuyomi:

Genjutsu won't work on Sasori due to him not having a brain and genjutsu changes the chakra flow in the brain something he lacks.

Amaterasu:

When Itachi casts Amaterasu, he must have his eye open wide and veins in his eye are bigger.. Sasori can easily notice it because Raikage could easily notice that Sasuke's sharingan changed to MS and that he was going to use Amaterasu on a long distance. Gaara was able to counter and block Amaterasu with his own regural sand so Sasori will be able to do it as well. [ ]

He could even envelope himself in a full Iron Sand Prison and since Sasori doesn't need to breathe, this won't be a problem.

Sasori could also counter it with his 100 puppets by moving them like a shield to his main body. [ ]

Also, alive Itachi can't spam Amaterasu. He can use it like one or two times before it takes it's toll on him and his stamina.

Susano'o:

We can see that, with enough pressure, Susano'o can be momentarily stunned, as when Orochimaru in Hydra form rammed into Itachi and he spit up blood. Perhaps several puppets attacking a huge target will have the same effect.

Sasori can make the pre used Iron Sand beneath Itachi suddenly spike up and kill Itachi. [ ]

While Itachi is in his ribcage stage Susano'o, Sasori could make the Iron Sand bullets go throught the gaps of Susano'o's bones. Plus, the bullets are small and pretty fast, and Sasori needs only one scratch to win. [ ]

Sasori can make his Iron Sand attack Itachi constantly from each side. It would make Itachi to remain on the defensive. Itachi isn't able to keep Susano'o up for long due to his stamina. Sasori can just wait up in the air while Itachi's chakra reserves fall.

Also, if needed Sasori can wrap the Iron Sand around Susano'o, eneabling it to move. If Itachi de-activates Susano'o, Sasori will hit him with Iron Sand directly. [ ]

Satetsu Kaihou is a problem for Itachi as well. Not only could it break Susano'o and (26 votes agreed and 13 disagreed, so Itachi wankers don't even try clicking disagree with that thread), it can lock Itachi in place as well. Meaning that Sasori could just wait for Itachi's chakra to drain to zero.

Even if Itachi gets past the 3rd Kazekage by some miracle, the 100 puppets jutsu is his end. Sasori's puppets can go undergound and attack Itachi from beneath. [ ]

Sasori's intelligence > Itachi's intelligence:

I often see Itachi wankers say Itachi is smarter than Sasori. However, this isn't true. Sasori was able to create the most lethal poison in NV and he is the only one able to create human puppets. Let's not forget that he even turned himself into one. Itachi never did anything like that.

Other points to notice:
Sasori can control all metallic weapons / things, meaning that Sasori can take control of the kunai Itachi has on him and stab him with them.

Also, Iron Sand can break the sound barrier. [ ]

While restraining Susano'o, Sasori can release a poison gas on Itachi as well.


Amatersu can't be spammed? Itachi without meds begs to differ


Susanoo: was never stunned, using fillers in an doesn't work...Re-read the manga, and susanoo is just overkill.


Intelligence: Sasori>Itachi? If at age at he was on par with kage wisdom...Then what chance does sasori at age 20's to out smart a kage?

/thread
 

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Sasori killed Sunagakure strongest Shinobi ever, Sandaime Kazekage when he was just 15 years old, Sasori is A beast.

Itachi defeated Orochimaru who killed a Kazekage and fought on par with Hiruzen, he also laid waste to an Elite clan with one accomplice.. While he was around the same age as Sasori at the time. Sasori got defeated by Sakura and Chiyo lmaooo. Your point?
 

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Amatersu can't be spammed? Itachi without meds begs to differ


Susanoo: was never stunned, using fillers in an doesn't work...Re-read the manga, and susanoo is just overkill.


Intelligence: Sasori>Itachi? If at age at he was on par with kage wisdom...Then what chance does sasori at age 20's to out smart a kage?

/thread

i think people are letting that whole kage wisdom thing blow out of proportion what i believe the 3rd meant by wisdom of a kage was that itachi was able to look past his clan and see what was more important and he held peace higher than all else (except sasuke lol)
 

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nope

sasori>>>MInato
tsukoyomi>>>>Minato

you're out of your f*cking mind, come back when a girl with pink hair and a mini skirt doesn't kick his a$$
 

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actually about the amaterasu thing if sasori starts out in hiruko then itachi amaterasus straight away then sasori would have time to escape as well as attack itachi if he suffers the draw backs of amaterasu the itachi would have revealed his more powerful attacks straight away which would put sasori on alert mode so he could then bring out more puppets who could serve as sasoris second body, if itachi decides to amaterasu again which could seriously leave itachi open but i see sasori only switching bodys once as itachi would know that the core is the target
Hypothetical situations in your favor. In actuality, Sasori's downfall lies within the fact that he has no knowledge of Itachi's arsenal. Itachi has used Amatearsu without drawbacks; sasori cannot 'hit' Itachi as all of his are anticipated by the sharingan and there is nothing in his arsenal succeeding Susano'o. Sasori would ultimately face the extendable Totsuka Katana (regardless of Iron Sand/or puppets as Itachi can not only guard against it but clearly see Sasori right through all of that). Sasori has no way of winning such a match-up.



Just read FloriGlori's posts. I once thought Sasori would win, this changed my perspective. Itachi is just too damn good U_U

Indeed. Flori is unarguably one of the best debaters here.
 

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i think people are letting that whole kage wisdom thing blow out of proportion what i believe the 3rd meant by wisdom of a kage was that itachi was able to look past his clan and see what was more important and he held peace higher than all else (except sasuke lol)

wisdom and how he fights, i was basically stating what kabuto said...Itachi can read people's mind from pure intellect.
 

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Indeed. Flori is unarguably one of the best debaters here.

Definitely. He counters everything Sasori has to offer, and properly explains Itachi's prevail. If that doesn't convince them, I'd say they're in denial.
 

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Hypothetical situations in your favor. In actuality, Sasori's downfall lies within the fact that he has no knowledge of Itachi's arsenal. Itachi has used Amatearsu without drawbacks; sasori cannot 'hit' Itachi as all of his are anticipated by the sharingan and there is nothing in his arsenal succeeding Susano'o. Sasori would ultimately face the extendable Totsuka Katana (regardless of Iron Sand/or puppets as Itachi can not only guard against it but clearly see Sasori right through all of that). Sasori has no way of winning such a match-up.



Indeed. Flori is unarguably one of the best debaters here.

name a verse thread that isnt a hypothetical situation all i did was point out away for sasori to get one over itachi, if itachi rushed with amaterasu
but there is always the chance for sasori to win but i see itachi as the one with the greater percentage of winning
 

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wisdom and how he fights, i was basically stating what kabuto said...Itachi can read people's mind from pure intellect.

im not questioning itachis smarts and im well aware that his intellect is among the best but i just think people take that one statement made by the 3rd and make it out to be more than it is
 

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name a verse thread that isnt a hypothetical situation all i did was point out away for sasori to get one over itachi, if itachi rushed with amaterasu
but there is always the chance for sasori to win but i see itachi as the one with the greater percentage of winning

'In your favour'. You entire post is solely revolved around Sasori's advantage without taking Itachi's intelligent use of his arsenal as well as advantages of the Sharingan into account. A biased conclusion.
 
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