It's funny how BD obliterating Susano'o has been dehyped by manga itself, yet people somehow believe that Sasuke still loses the match. It's pretty funny.
It's funny how BD obliterating Susano'o has been dehyped by manga itself, yet people somehow believe that Sasuke still loses the match. It's pretty funny.
Stop, Kishi never said their always equal stop putting words in a innocent man's mouth. You cant accept the truth so you troll you're way into making them seem equal, also in the Viz translation all Naruto said was "you cant beat Sasuke just by being strong" but I do agree the MS Sasuke from the Danzo fight has a nigh complete Susanno, Amaterasu and Enton so that Sasuke would beat SM Naruto high diff but SM Naruto beats 3 Toome Sasuke with low diff.
Naruto and Sasuke have never been equal. The closest they have been to equal was at VOTE but as shown by Kishi enphasizing the "headband" quote and the fact that Naruto was fighting to capture it was obvious that Naruto was a little stronger.
Yes he did, stop trying to act like you know what your talking about when you clearly don't. Sasuke = Naruto and Naruto = Sasuke ; Kishi stated this Kishi's words over you
It's funny how BD obliterating Susano'o has been dehyped by manga itself, yet people somehow believe that Sasuke still loses the match. It's pretty funny.
I know right , people on this site are really disappointing when it comes to the topic of sasuke. The mere fact that Naruto can go into an even further version of BM mode
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during war but Sasuke can't unlock Perfect stabilized susano'o
Lol wankers gonna wank. It is obvious the OP is a sasuke wanker. Naruto at the end will be the strongest whether you like it or not. And a big LOL @ 3T sasuke = SM Naruto.
1. Kishi said they progress as a pair. That does not mean that they progress at the same rate. If Naruto goes up 2 levels, Sasuke might only go up one, but they still both progress together. So you failed there.
Read it again. If you have got brain which i doubt, you will realize what kishi wanted to imply here.
It's clear kishi don't ignore sasuke's powers while powering up naruto. They are like yin and yang. They are meant to be equal which is why they progress as a pair.
If naruto got huge power up or two power ups in a row, and sasuke got only one, then THAT wont be called progressing as a pair. That would be called progressing naruto and NOT SASUKE.
2. You used your facts wrong. When Naruto said "I can't defeat Sasuke at his current level", that does not mean he's saying Sasuke is stronger than him.
LOL seriously? Then what does it means ? oh let me guess, may he wants to eat ramen by saying that :sy:
When Naruto made that comment, it was right after he had just told Sasuke that if they fought they would both die. Meaning they were equals at the time. If Naruto dies while killing Sasuke at the same time, that's not defeating Sasuke, it's a draw, which is why he said he couldn't defeat Sasuke yet because Sasuke's level was too close to his. How in the world did you interpret that as him saying Sasuke was stronger when you JUST SAID they were equals using the same evidence? You failed hard there too.
ITS OBVIOUS! If they both fought at that point, they would both die. Sasuke was tired up after using his MS too much, he actually went blind. Even though sasuke was totally worn out, he couldn't see properly and still he was good enough to tie with naruto. AT THAT POINT, they both would have died , if they fought.
By level/skill , naruto was inferior to sasuke (he admitted himself) .
And if they fought in their current condition, healthy naruto vs unhealthy sasuke, it would end up as a draw.
3. Naruto had SM when Sasuke had MS. And as you pointed out they were equals then. So how in the world do you get 3t Sasuke=SM Naruto? Are you insane or just that bad at keeping track of your own thoughts? MS Sasuke=SM Naruto. That's it. Do I even need to say fail for this?
MANGA >>>>> your opinion.
Now i have shown you two "proofs" which suggests SM naruto is inferior to MS sasuke while you have shown none to prove otherwise.
You failed so hard.
4. Sasuke got EMS, Naruto got KM, then Naruto got BM. In terms of upgrades, that puts Naruto ahead. But your problem is that you think an upgrade automatically puts them on equal terms, which it doesn't. Sometimes one can get such a good upgrade that it can put them ahead of the other one if they were behind. These power-ups they are getting don't follow some numerical point system that balances out everytime. Like I said, Kishi said they progress as a pair, he didn't say they progress equally.
As i mentioned in the thread itself ,
CM+3t Sasuke = SM naruto
Kirin ~ FRS
MS ~ KM
EMS ~ BM
They are progressing in pair.
5. If we go all the way back to the beginning. Rasengan Naruto>Chidori Sasuke. Then Sasuke got Curse Mark enhancements while Naruto got Kyubi chakra cloak, but as we saw in their first fight, Sasuke's upgrade was so big that CM Sasuke>KC Naruto even though Naruto was ahead of Sasuke before that. Then part 2 started, and while both got stronger, neither of them got any noticeable upgrades, so Sasuke remained better than Naruto (which you pointed out in your thread). BUT Naruto got SM while Sasuke got MS, which Naruto's SM was just enough for him to make up the difference and growth from Sasuke's MS and become equals, which is when Naruto said they would both die if they fought one another. Then Sasuke got EMS while Naruto got KM and then got BM. We don't know how good EMS Sasuke really is, but it's safe to say that the two upgrades Naruto got are probably enough to give him the edge over Sasuke's one, which is why people say current Naruto>Sasuke. As I just proved, the power of their upgrades aren't always the same, which is why they've traded places at the top so much
WTF? seriously? Are you really this dumb or pretending to be one?
BY what logic , rasengan naruto > chidori sasuke ?
The power of a ninjutsu is adjustable by putting more/less chakra in it.
In the VOTE too, they both charged at each other with chidori and rasengan (the same jutsu) , yet sasuke came out the victor.
Your logic is flawed.
And then you say none of them got any noticeable upgrade?
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You should say naruto didn't get any noticeable upgrades. All he learnt in three years was how to make a bigger blue ball.
Your further arguments are invalid as well .
Will Sasuke be on Naruto's level? Hell yeah if they're still going to fight. Has it happened yet? I can't prove that and nobody else can either until we see Sasuke's full potential.
I know Naruto's full capacity and it is unreal. I don't know jack about what Sasuke can fully do. Nobody does because he hasn't done a damn thing with his new eyes. Let's wait until he enters the battlefield people. Then we can really judge.
EMS Sasuke so far is still much weaker than RM Nauto. Those saying otherwise would get slaughtered in the versus section trying to debate otherwise.
Like I've said so many times before. I know Sasuke supporters desperately want him to be on par with Naruto but he isn't there yet. Not even close to his weaker form. He'll get there eventually, just enjoy the show Sasuke puts on until then.
Lol, I think he means Naruto is the protagonist and title character of the series. Sasuke was created shortly after Naruto's conception to be an adequate rival for the series.
Believe me they are not equal in significance in terms of how Kishi will end his series. It's not even from a story standpoint, but from a marketability standpoint. Naruto Uzumaki is the flagship of his series, so his development and well-being will probably come first.
Lol, I think he means Naruto is the protagonist and title character of the series. Sasuke was created shortly after Naruto's conception to be an adequate rival for the series.
Believe me they are not equal in significance in terms of how Kishi will end his series. It's not even from a story standpoint, but from a marketability standpoint. Naruto Uzumaki is the flagship of his series, so his development and well-being will probably come first.
Well yes i know that but to Say point blank NAruto is the Main character is wrong, Naruto and sasuke are main characters [ Naruto more so then sasuke], People like Jugo, Itachi, Suigetsu, Karin, Sakura and kakashi are supporting characters though I would say orochimaru is a temp. supporting character but i believe he is more of the trickester type lol you know the type to switch rolls
Look I have no problem with Naruto being the more important main character but to suggest that sasuke also isn't a main character makes people look foolish.
Lol, I think he means Naruto is the protagonist and title character of the series. Sasuke was created shortly after Naruto's conception to be an adequate rival for the series.
Believe me they are not equal in significance in terms of how Kishi will end his series. It's not even from a story standpoint, but from a marketability standpoint. Naruto Uzumaki is the flagship of his series, so his development and well-being will probably come first.
Yes he did, stop trying to act like you know what your talking about when you clearly don't. Sasuke = Naruto and Naruto = Sasuke ; Kishi stated this Kishi's words over you