(Theory) SO6P is not a uzumaki ( READ)

[Chīkara]

So this thread before was just shit...

But i will go more in depth why s06p is not an uzumaki..'

Let's see the reasons the ''believers'' put as so6p being an uzumaki

- the circles everywhere.
- good juubi vessel.
- main char is a uzumaki (naruto).
- he sealed the juubi with sealing technique.

Now what i believe is :the so6p was just a priest. No clan no nothing.
he was not senju related he was the creator of all jutsu and
he made the Younger and Older brother..


- the younger brother : the 1 with the strong body and life force (senju).
Now we all know the senju have bloodrelatives and that is the..

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Yes the uzumaki Clan..
They are specialized in : strong life forces and Amazing sealing techniques.
Now people say the sage is an uzumaki because he used sealing techniques for the juubi..
the same as was used for naruto...

Its all written in this scroll

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THE SAGE IS NOT A UZUMAKI BECAUSE HE USED THIS SCROLL TO SEAL THE JUUBI

why give me a good reason for it..
the uzumaki clan was feared because they specialized in all kinds of sealing technique's
They just trained for it

That does not make the S06P a uzumaki.

Now to clear things up:

- the elder brother : He have the sage's eyes. but because of his hatred the ancestor doujutsu
transformed into the Sharingan.

They bloodrelatives are : Hyuuga clan.

its basically this :

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And i want you to look at this picture

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the uchiha and senju were once 1 and the same...

Then were is naruto's doujutsu... if he is an uzumaki he have to posses atleast 1 of the eye's.

And if the sage was an UZUMAKI

Then why did madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan
he would be able to awaken it himself because he is almost a direct descedant from
the s06p.

But no he isnt. that's why he needed the rinnegan. he cant awaken it himself.

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and common do you think this ***** can host a juubi.. or even a ****ing tailed beast ??



I want to go more in depth but im lazy and it''ll be loads of text and pictures

Let me know what you think

 

[FireBird Marco]

He was a Namikaze!

 

[Mister Sir]

If the sage created the ninja world, how could he get his hands on something that never existed before he created the ninja world? (the scroll naruto is holding)

 

[Chīkara]

If the sage created the ninja world, how could he get his hands on something that never existed before he created the ninja world? (the scroll naruto is holding)

True !

the sage created the scroll and the uzumaki took it to focus on sealing techniques but that doesnt make the sage a
****in uzumaki

 

[dark dreams]

waaaaaaaatt?:erm:

 

[Arugon]

The Uchiha and Senju clans both came from the Sage. Therefore the Sage obviously didn't belong to a clan. People always say that the Uzamaki are good at sealing and that because of this, the Sage is an Uzamaki. How does this make him an Uzamaki if the Sage is the one that created jutsu in the first place?

Since Sage came before Jutsu, he came before sealing techniques, thus he came before the Uzamaki. It's pretty simple really.

 

[Troyg39]

You're theory is flawed only when you get to Karin. Karin is an Uzumaki, so despite what you personally believe about her, she would be an excellent host for tailed beasts, since Uzumaki clan members have very suppressive chakra that can tame tailed-beasts. That's the reason Kushina was picked.

But as far as everything else, you could be right but who knows. The main problem with the "Sage is an Uzumaki" theory is that it only covers 3 out of the four related clans. It explains how the Uzumaki, Uchiha, and Senju are tied together through the sage, but it doesn't explain the all important Hyuga clan, which we know is also apart of the group since they are relatives of the Uchiha.

Aslo the Hyuga clan is said to be the oldest leaf clan in the village, so it's likely that they came before the Uchiha, not after. Really we will just have to wait and see what the truth is. But it could go either way

 

[Arugon]

He was a Namikaze!

Now this is something that I can go with!!

 

[Zee Seh]

much much much much bttr that the last thread..
but still dont agree wid u.... and obviously that ***** karin cannot host juubi.. not even in kishis dreams.. Lol

 

[Domo Genesis]

Aww you didn't need to call Karin a *****... But aside from that I think you made a good point.

 

[Arugon]

You're theory is flawed only when you get to Karin. Karin is an Uzumaki, so despite what you personally believe about her, she would be an excellent host for tailed beasts, since Uzumaki clan members have very suppressive chakra that can tame tailed-beasts. That's the reason Kushina was picked.

But as far as everything else, you could be right but who knows. The main problem with the "Sage is an Uzumaki" theory is that it only covers 3 out of the four related clans. It explains how the Uzumaki, Uchiha, and Senju are tied together through the sage, but it doesn't explain the all important Hyuga clan, which we know is also apart of the group since they are relatives of the Uchiha.

Aslo the Hyuga clan is said to be the oldest leaf clan in the village, so it's likely that they came before the Uchiha, not after. Really we will just have to wait and see what the truth is. But it could go either way

Wrong, the Uchiha and Senju founded the village with their truce, therefore they preceded the Hyuuga.

 

[RasenKirin]

I honestly don't believe he is an Uzumaki at all. Even when I read my good pal Sir Derp's theory (which was well done), I still wasn't convinced.

Honestly though, if you're too lazy, you should hold off on doing a theory. Going more in depth is what makes people actually think what you're saying is possible. Your work reflects you, ya'know?

If the sage created the ninja world, how could he get his hands on something that never existed before he created the ninja world? (the scroll naruto is holding)

Not too sure what you're asking but the SO6P as stated in the Manga did create the Ninja World. Isn't it possible that he wrote down his secrets about sealing techniques, etc... in that scroll, or in an older one and an Uzumaki rewrote them on a different scroll for future generations?

 

[Troyg39]

The Uchiha and Senju clans both came from the Sage. Therefore the Sage obviously didn't belong to a clan. People always say that the Uzamaki are good at sealing and that because of this, the Sage is an Uzamaki. How does this make him an Uzamaki if the Sage is the one that created jutsu in the first place?

Since Sage came before Jutsu, he came before sealing techniques, thus he came before the Uzamaki. It's pretty simple really.

The Sage didn't create ALL jutsu. He simply was the first to discover chakra and taught people how to manipulate it. He didn't invent all jutsu that exists today, so in theory if he had family members (which he most likely had to) then his family members could've later became known as Uzumaki, and practiced sealing jutsu since that's what their blood ancestor (the Sage) was best known for, which resulted in them being skilled in various forms of it

 

[foxyladyland]

I think this is a very beautiful thread my friend congratulations

 

[Troyg39]

Wrong, the Uchiha and Senju founded the village with their truce, therefore they preceded the Hyuuga.

You misunderstand sir. There were clans before the leaf was founded. The Hyuga were said to be the oldest clan in the leaf. Not saying they joined the leaf first. But that their heritage dates back farther than any other clan in the leaf. The hidden leaf village's founding wasn't the start of clans you know

 

[Arugon]

The Sage didn't create ALL jutsu. He simply was the first to discover chakra and taught people how to manipulate it. He didn't invent all jutsu that exists today, so in theory if he had family members (which he most likely had to) then his family members could've later became known as Uzumaki, and practiced sealing jutsu since that's what their blood ancestor (the Sage) was best known for, which resulted in them being skilled in various forms of it

-__- that's pretty much the same thing lol.
All jutsu Originated from the Sage, happy?

 

[NobleRider]

its true dat senju and uchiha truce found the village.. but hyuuga is the oldest clan who joined the village..
not the village found the hyuugas..

Spoiler

"There were rumours that the Uchiha clan's Sharingan was descended from the Byakugan"

 

[Troyg39]

-__- that's pretty much the same thing lol.
All jutsu Originated from the Sage, happy?

Smh. Ben Franklin discovered electricity. He invented the light bulb. He didn't make every single variation of the light bulb that exists after his time. So no, it's not the same thing.

Basically if the sage invented the first light bulb so to speak, his family members (clan) could've started to improve on his inventions, and created different kinds of light bulbs.

Saying the Sage can't be an Uzumaki simply because he created the first jutsu is inaccurate. He didn't invent all jutsu.

 

[Almighty Ra]

There's only theories and assumptions on this topic..Even though the proof provided is unfounded..If he's an Uzumaki great I think he resembles Naruto from what lil we got to see of him..If he's not an Uzumaki Naruto will be his reincarnation in this era.It still hasn't been stated what family he belonged to all we know his descendants are now know as Senju and Uchiha..Which sounds realistic when u look at it..Everyone has founding family Surname down the line thur marriage the original Surname gets pushed back further down the line till it's no longer used by the future generations. So by logic if he was Uzumaki his descendants would have different last names Senju & Uchiha.

 

[Arugon]

Smh. Ben Franklin discovered electricity. He invented the light bulb. He didn't make every single variation of the light bulb that exists after his time. So no, it's not the same thing.

Basically if the sage invented the first light bulb so to speak, his family members (clan) could've started to improve on his inventions, and created different kinds of light bulbs.

Saying the Sage can't be an Uzumaki simply because he created the first jutsu is inaccurate. He didn't invent all jutsu.

Ugghhhh you are dull, I never said he invented all jutsu!!! FFS
I said that he created jutsu
Meaning the practice and concept of jutsu. I never freakin said he created all jutsu. See the difference???
Geez...