Susano'o does not require Tsukuyomi

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Itachi first describes Susano'o. Then, people misinterpret what he says.

he says along WITH amaterasu and tsukuyomi, susano'o awoken. Not because of them; it awakened WITH them.

If you buy a basket of two eggs, but unexpectedly get a third one with it, that third egg is not the product of the first two.
 

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Itachi first describes Susano'o. Then, people misinterpret what he says.

he says along WITH amaterasu and tsukuyomi, susano'o awoken. Not because of them; it awakened WITH them.

If you buy a basket of two eggs, but unexpectedly get a third one with it, that third egg is not the product of the first two.

This man is talking sense.*_*
 

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it seems you misinterpret
not really enough proof
 

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All depending on what scanlation you're reading. In the correctly translated ones, he does specify the NEED for both techniques to awaken Susano'o. The databook also says the same thing. I realize it doesn't make any ****ing sense, because that has been contradicted quite a bit since then, but it's still the official word. If Kishi writes next week that you don't even need a Sharingan to get Susano'o, then you wouldn't need a Sharingan to get Susano'o.
 

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That's not what people arw going off. We're going off of when Kishu confirmed it in the databook.
#TheTruth

Besides, Madara doesn't have Tsukyomi.
Which is why Tsuki no Me involves him casting Tsukiyomi, right?
 

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All depending on what scanlation you're reading. In the correctly translated ones, he does specify the NEED for both techniques to awaken Susano'o. The databook also says the same thing. I realize it doesn't make any ****ing sense, because that has been contradicted quite a bit since then, but it's still the official word. If Kishi writes next week that you don't even need a Sharingan to get Susano'o, then you wouldn't need a Sharingan to get Susano'o.

Please show me these supposed scans then.
 

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NO, so far every with susanoo has tsukyomi
 

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All depending on what scanlation you're reading. In the correctly translated ones, he does specify the NEED for both techniques to awaken Susano'o. The databook also says the same thing. I realize it doesn't make any ****ing sense, because that has been contradicted quite a bit since then, but it's still the official word. If Kishi writes next week that you don't even need a Sharingan to get Susano'o, then you wouldn't need a Sharingan to get Susano'o.

i have a theory on this actuall
i guess ill make it into a thread in a little while
 

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How's Madara gonna cast the moon eye plan, if he doesnt supposedly have "tsukyomi" ?
 

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is there any character that disproves the fact that you need both amaterasu and tsukiyomi to have susano'o? Itachi had both then awakened susano'o, sasuke proved to have both then awakened susano'o after. the only thing is thatwe dont know if madara can use them but I'm sure he can, even if he's able to doesn't mean he would use them. Both techniques are not compatible with madara's fighting style of destroying everything and probably doesnt like the cheap tricks that avoid battle interaction.

also if you look at it in this way... there are three confirmed fully developed MS users... Madara, Sasuke, and itachi

Sasuke has mastered amatersu hence the creation of blaze release
Itachi has the strongest Tsukiyomi,
Madara has the Perfect Susano'o

so it seems like kishi made sure that each character has extremes of each power
 

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The Databook disagrees. [ ]
 

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Holy sh*t, this is the 4th thread on this topic today.....

It should be obvious that its not required
 

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Guess Itachi and Madara posses Totsuka Blade then
It should be quite obvious that that part was exclusive to Itachi's Susanoo, seeing as he found it and equipped the Susano'o with it himself.

However, the Databook explicitly says "Residing in the eyes of those who grasp the workings of Heaven and Earth", and "Susano'o is the strength of the tempestuous force that resides only within those who have mastered both of these techniques"

So, I guess Itachi now classifies as "those"...?
 

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Outdated book more like. You just need two MS to obtain Susano'o.


It should be quite obvious that that part was exclusive to Itachi's Susanoo, seeing as he found it and equipped the Susano'o with it himself.

However, the Databook explicitly says "Residing in the eyes of those who grasp the workings of Heaven and Earth", and "Susano'o is the strength of the tempestuous force that resides only within those who have mastered both of these techniques"

So, I guess Itachi now classifies as "those"...?
In the databook it also says "Sussano wields the Totsuka Blade" it doesn't specify who
Don't pick and choose what you feel is best :|
 

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Outdated book more like. You just need two MS to obtain Susano'o.
Oh, how immensely smart...

And yeah, let's just say that Kishi's own words are not valid, because Penguin2640 decided that they were "Outdated"...
 
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