Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

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by inferno style, do you mean katon ? If that is the case, katon is something to be used against weaklings or when sasuke is low on chakra.
As i have stated earlier, the bigger the size , the easier it gets keep track of naruto.
Again, itachi,nagato,madara,obito, and kakashi could keep track of naruto , so if they can , sasuke can.

KM naruto failed to sense amaterasu , in fact , he was surprised that amaterasu missed its target when it KOed nagato's summons.If KM naruto could sense amaterasu, he would have atleast tried moving from his place.

I suppose only SM can sense amaterasu which is still an assumption since its not shown in manga.Even if he can, it takes too much time for him to get into SM, and he need to stay at one position. If he chooses to do that against amaterasu, it is suicide.


Since most of the time naruto rely on close range attacks, this wall is an effective counter.

I'm sorry. I'm not talking about Fire Style Ninjutsu or "Katon". You willl most likely know Inferno Style as "Enton" or "Blaze Release". And I'm not talking about in regular combat. if naruto sensed danger coming, he will most likely blitz his way out of danger. As you've seen, when Naruto achieves his top speed, It is comparable to the speed of even the Flying Raijin. If you look back to the Itachi vs Sasuke fight, Sasuke evaded Amaterasu for a good portion of time just by simply running. If he can shortly evade Amaterasu by simply running, then Naruto's ludicrous speeds in Tailed Beast Mode will be more than enough to get him out of danger.

And i'm sure with every other aspect of his abilities being augmented, his sensory abilities will be augmented as well when he achieves his host transformation.

Bottom line is, wether it be normal Amaterasu or an Inferno Style jutsu, Naruto will get the hell out of the way 9.99 times out of 10.

Next argument! Come at me, bro! ^_^
 
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Raikages movements were described then as something so fast that eyes cannot follow.And amaterasu appears where you look.In the frame where Sasuke shoots amaterasu, there is an afterimage effect, meaning that when Sasuke shoots amaterasu,
Raikage wasn't there anymore.
There that solves it...
 

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Am done here Frikid...Becuase you ****ed up with a statement of yours..
If Amaterasu was Instant,then the only way to avoid it would be Ftg,that means Raikage Used FTG!
 

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Am done here Frikid...Becuase you ****ed up with a statement of yours..
If Amaterasu was Instant,then the only way to avoid it would be Ftg,that means Raikage Used FTG!

Stop waisting your breath, bro. . . This guy isn't giving it up. And it wouldn't surprise me if he says that Amaterasu is faster than Flying Raijin next. . .
 

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First of all why sasuke will use amateratsu against naruto

And if he use then naruto will throw away his clothes and he is. Safe
 

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Great thread, however simply answer the question: How come Sasuke was not brought down by Itachi's amaterasu immediately Itachi put it to use; Sasuke ran round in circle for a while before amaterasu caught up with him.
So if a younger Sasuke could delay being hit by amaterasu, then how would an extremely fast shinobi (Naruto) not be able to?
Await your answer.
 

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It's funny if raikage can dodge it so can naruto considering how naruto was able to dodge raikages speed blitz at pin point blank range
you won't be saying that if you read the OP.


Terrible theory, you proved nothing. Even in you prof it shows EMS Sasuke's eye bleeds, to say it's faster is pure fabrication. Also "EMS = no MS drawbacks" is pure BS. The only thing we know for sure is EMS doesn't lose it's light from overuse.
Go the read the manga again, specially itachi vs sasuke fight. what you are calling BS is actually a manga fact.

cba to read through all the posts and shizz but basicly its this.
The main thing about sasuke is his amaterasu.Hell his Susanoo has it and you can bet he will overuse it in evrey fight including with Naruto....if naruto could not dodge it then what would be the point :|
good thing is naruto isn't fighting sasuke, from the way the manga is going .


Seriously? Its Instant yet A dodged it!
Ftg is Instant not amaterasu!
if you read the OP, you won't say that.

are you implying that gaaras sand is faster than naruto?
NO. But kid sasuke and kid lee did outspeed his sand.


I'm sorry. I'm not talking about Fire Style Ninjutsu or "Katon". You willl most likely know Inferno Style as "Enton" or "Blaze Release". And I'm not talking about in regular combat. if naruto sensed danger coming, he will most likely blitz his way out of danger. As you've seen, when Naruto achieves his top speed, It is comparable to the speed of even the Flying Raijin. If you look back to the Itachi vs Sasuke fight, Sasuke evaded Amaterasu for a good portion of time just by simply running. If he can shortly evade Amaterasu by simply running, then Naruto's ludicrous speeds in Tailed Beast Mode will be more than enough to get him out of danger.

And i'm sure with every other aspect of his abilities being augmented, his sensory abilities will be augmented as well when he achieves his host transformation.

Bottom line is, wether it be normal Amaterasu or an Inferno Style jutsu, Naruto will get the hell out of the way 9.99 times out of 10.
Oh my bad! i didn't knew its also called inferno style.
It is a manga fact that in SM he can sense stuff better than in KM.(he said that in his fight against 3rd raikage)
KM Naruto also failed to sense amaterasu against itachi's battle.

Itachi didn't wanted to kill sasuke , that is why, sasuke survived that.

you can't say that until its shown in manga. SM is the best way of sensing till date.

@last line :
With sharingan's prediction ability , sasuke can know where naruto is going to move, with enton he can spread his amaterasu and he can also hit multiple targets , so it is impossible for naruto to dodge amaterasu.
 

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Naruto has never shown to sense amaterasu . Seems like even the greatest sensor can't sense amaterasu.
if you are talking about speed, amaterasu is instant .
3rd raikage's hell stab =/= amaterasu. (and this is also off topic)

Look kid, I like Sasuke so don't force me to put him in his place.

SM Naruto can dodge all variations Amaterasu even the Gatling gun, I can prove it with Manga pages. BM Naruto is far above and also Amaterasu won't even hurt him because of the BM Cloak [that is if he gets hit which can never happen U_U]
 

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you won't be saying that if you read the OP.



Go the read the manga again, specially itachi vs sasuke fight. what you are calling BS is actually a manga fact.


good thing is naruto isn't fighting sasuke, from the way the manga is going .



if you read the OP, you won't say that.


NO. But kid sasuke and kid lee did outspeed his sand.



Oh my bad! i didn't knew its also called inferno style.
It is a manga fact that in SM he can sense stuff better than in KM.(he said that in his fight against 3rd raikage)
KM Naruto also failed to sense amaterasu against itachi's battle.

Itachi didn't wanted to kill sasuke , that is why, sasuke survived that.

you can't say that until its shown in manga. SM is the best way of sensing till date.

@last line :
With sharingan's prediction ability , sasuke can know where naruto is going to move, with enton he can spread his amaterasu and he can also hit multiple targets , so it is impossible for naruto to dodge amaterasu.

Bro,I read the OP..
FTG is Instataneous alrite?
If Amaterasu is Instant,Raikage wouldn't be able to avoid it,but he did,that means he used FTG,but he doesn't know FTG,does he?
 

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I'm sure he can, he's faster then A on bijuu mode.
 

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One problem with this theory is Naruto has sensor abilities and would know the moment Sasuke activates Amaterasu,Secondly, the sharingan can't predict the movement of someone as fast as naruto, as seen when Sasuke fought the Raikage.It was clearly stated he couldn't predict the Raikage movements, which is why Sasuke covered his Susanoo in Amaterasu flames.

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@Frikid: Well, I thought he got used to using the tech during to Kage Summit Arc. I didn't really see it affect him much asides from the eye bleedings. The drawbacks started coming into played during his clash with Kakashi after using Susanoo one last time. But I do agree those side effects aren't really there anymore with EMS.
• The definition of blitzing is a series of attacks in very fast bursts. Example is how Lee speed blitzes Gaara in the Chunin Exams. Naruto's speed is somewhat more similar to A in terms of style. I got this from fastrthnwind. He seems to be a really good expert on determining what speed is. Naruto tbh, needs to use his speed more often to get use to it.

• Of course not, I'm just finding some aspects of how Kishi tries to make them each other's opposite. ;) Naruto can now use Chakra Arms, KB, or ninja tools to strategize and come up with tricks to fight with his TBM, now that he is in good control of it. It's more likely that they both use strategies and wits to fight each other. Kishi isn't going to make it too much like DBZ.
• About this topic: If there was a percentage of Naruto dodging Amaterasu, it will be around 70-72%. Because Sasuke may be able to use it almost instantly, but it doesn't really guarantee that his physical body will reacted to Naruto's speed, hitting him in time. Even Gai, a extremely skilled Taijutsu user, noted Naruto's speed when deflecting 5 point-blank range TBBs before he was going to use 8-Gates. The other 30% or so that he will get is because Sasuke may use it as a surprise attack or trick.
 

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First of all why sasuke will use amateratsu against naruto
And if he use then naruto will throw away his clothes and he is. Safe
hahahaha xD ! this comment is hilarious. *****
@ your post : and what if he gets hit twice ?

Am done here Frikid...Becuase you ****ed up with a statement of yours..
If Amaterasu was Instant,then the only way to avoid it would be Ftg,that means Raikage Used FTG!
Bro,I read the OP..
FTG is Instataneous alrite?
If Amaterasu is Instant,Raikage wouldn't be able to avoid it,but he did,that means he used FTG,but he doesn't know FTG,does he?
this is what i wrote in OP :
First sasuke concentrated on target(raikage) then blood came out and then amaterasu was summoned, which gave raikage more then enough time to use his Body Flickr combined with v2 armor and dodge it.
EMS sasuke have improved in amaterasu by alot from that point, also include the fact that there are no drawbacks in EMS .

Stop waisting your breath, bro. . . This guy isn't giving it up. And it wouldn't surprise me if he says that Amaterasu is faster than Flying Raijin next. . .
that depends on situation.
If you count the time taken by the kunai (containing FTG SEAL) to go from Point A to B , then amaterasu is faster.
IF you don't, then obviously, FTG.

Look kid, I like Sasuke so don't force me to put him in his place.

SM Naruto can dodge all variations Amaterasu even the Gatling gun, I can prove it with Manga pages. BM Naruto is far above and also Amaterasu won't even hurt him because of the BM Cloak [that is if he gets hit which can never happen U_U]

@bolded part,
if you are saying SM naruto can dodge amaterasu ,then it means SM naruto is faster (or equal) than A . - Check

I believe amaterasu gets summoned on the target and not travel to the target (which could be wrong) .
if what i think is correct, then naruto gets burned inside his cloak.

If not, still it would burn down his cloak, which would force him to come out of it, giving sasuke another shot .
 

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hahahaha xD ! this comment is hilarious. *****
@ your post : and what if he gets hit twice ?


this is what i wrote in OP :
First sasuke concentrated on target(raikage) then blood came out and then amaterasu was summoned, which gave raikage more then enough time to use his Body Flickr combined with v2 armor and dodge it.
EMS sasuke have improved in amaterasu by alot from that point, also include the fact that there are no drawbacks in EMS .


that depends on situation.
If you count the time taken by the kunai (containing FTG SEAL) to go from Point A to B , then amaterasu is faster.
IF you don't, then obviously, FTG.



@bolded part,
if you are saying SM naruto can dodge amaterasu ,then it means SM naruto is faster (or equal) than A . - Check

I believe amaterasu gets summoned on the target and not travel to the target (which could be wrong) .
if what i think is correct, then naruto gets burned inside his cloak.

If not, still it would burn down his cloak, which would force him to come out of it, giving sasuke another shot .

I agree with this, Sasuke's ama is instant now. Unless naruto can sense sasuke's evil intention behind the ama cast then naruto doesnt have a chance. Its a 60/40 ill say on naruto's part. But its still highly possible for sasuke to hit naruto with ama
 

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@bolded part,
if you are saying SM naruto can dodge amaterasu ,then it means SM naruto is faster (or equal) than A . - Check

I believe amaterasu gets summoned on the target and not travel to the target (which could be wrong) .
if what i think is correct, then naruto gets burned inside his cloak.

If not, still it would burn down his cloak, which would force him to come out of it, giving sasuke another shot .

SM Naruto clone explained that it senses danger and also sense an attack before it's launched and that's why SM Naruto clone beat 3rd Raikage with simple Rasengan when KCM clone failed with FRS.

Also If Amaterasu gets summoned on the target then why was Garra able to stop it with his sand :rolleyes: So you're wrong there.

Also As seen in fight against Madara's Wooden dragon Naruto doens't need to get out of cloak when he can undo the affected cloak and then redo it again U_U
 

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You stated basic adavantages.. Nothing specific to Naruto.

Naruto is the fastest shinobi without s/t
He has his 9 tails cloak
Amaterasu lets off pressure in the atmosphere when its being released
Both his modes have sensing abilities

He can and will dodge it if ever needed
 

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hahahaha xD ! this comment is hilarious. *****
@ your post : and what if he gets hit twice ?


this is what i wrote in OP :
First sasuke concentrated on target(raikage) then blood came out and then amaterasu was summoned, which gave raikage more then enough time to use his Body Flickr combined with v2 armor and dodge it.
EMS sasuke have improved in amaterasu by alot from that point, also include the fact that there are no drawbacks in EMS .


that depends on situation.
If you count the time taken by the kunai (containing FTG SEAL) to go from Point A to B , then amaterasu is faster.
IF you don't, then obviously, FTG.



@bolded part,
if you are saying SM naruto can dodge amaterasu ,then it means SM naruto is faster (or equal) than A . - Check

I believe amaterasu gets summoned on the target and not travel to the target (which could be wrong) .
if what i think is correct, then naruto gets burned inside his cloak.

If not, still it would burn down his cloak, which would force him to come out of it, giving sasuke another shot .

Your stating Amaterasu is faster,thereby comparing it with Ftg....
But Ay shouldn't be able to dodge it if it where Instantaneous,because you'd remember Raikage used both V2 raiton no yoroi and shunshin,but wasn't able to match FTG,
So technically since Amaterasu is FTG's speed,Ay should have been caught dead on!
 
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Did you know that more than 50% of our population has an IQ less than 100? ('has' intended)

What makes you think anyone on NB has a higher IQ? :omg:


I doubt even you have an IQ of 100, most online IQ's are pure nonsense. For instance, I got an IQ of 172 online but when I did an actual IQ test I only got 127.. see how that works? We're all a lot stupider than we think


OT: Naruto can dodge Amaterasu, he matched A's speed in KCM mode and he is now even faster. What makes you think he can't dodge it?
 

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One problem with this theory is Naruto has sensor abilities and would know the moment Sasuke activates Amaterasu,Secondly, the sharingan can't predict the movement of someone as fast as naruto, as seen when Sasuke fought the Raikage.It was clearly stated he couldn't predict the Raikage movements, which is why Sasuke covered his Susanoo in Amaterasu flames.

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KM naruto failed to sense itachi's amaterasu.
whether SM can sense amaterasu or not, is debatable.

And you prove yourself wrong, it never stated sasuke can't predict his movements. Karin said sasuke can't follow his movements, which is wrong. Sasuke could totally follow his movements, that is why he was looking behind when raikage came behind him. And that manga page also shows, sasuke's excellent use of amaterasu.
Karin can't be trusted anyway, if sasuke listened to karin in his fight with danzo, sasuke would be dead meat.


@Frikid: Well, I thought he got used to using the tech during to Kage Summit Arc. I didn't really see it affect him much asides from the eye bleedings. The drawbacks started coming into played during his clash with Kakashi after using Susanoo one last time. But I do agree those side effects aren't really there anymore with EMS.

• The definition of blitzing is a series of attacks in very fast bursts. Example is how Lee speed blitzes Gaara in the Chunin Exams. Naruto's speed is somewhat more similar to A in terms of style. I got this from fastrthnwind. He seems to be a really good expert on determining what speed is. Naruto tbh, needs to use his speed more often to get use to it.

• Of course not, I'm just finding some aspects of how Kishi tries to make them each other's opposite. ;) Naruto can now use Chakra Arms, KB, or ninja tools to strategize and come up with tricks to fight with his TBM, now that he is in good control of it. It's more likely that they both use strategies and wits to fight each other. Kishi isn't going to make it too much like DBZ.
• About this topic: If there was a percentage of Naruto dodging Amaterasu, it will be around 70-72%. Because Sasuke may be able to use it almost instantly, but it doesn't really guarantee that his physical body will reacted to Naruto's speed, hitting him in time. Even Gai, a extremely skilled Taijutsu user, noted Naruto's speed when deflecting 5 point-blank range TBBs before he was going to use 8-Gates. The other 30% or so that he will get is because Sasuke may use it as a surprise attack or trick.
@1st para: He wasn't able to make a amaterasu wall (like he did against kabuto) at that time. it means he still was new . He also wasn't able to hit multiple opponents at one time. He was also worn out due to the damage he took in the same battle. And everytime sasuke used MS, it effected his body, but sasuke felt the real pain when he reached its peak(during danzo battle)

@1st point : i know what is speed blitzing but thank you
@2nd point : all i can say about this is, lets wait and watch ;)
@3rd point : the point is, with just speed alone, naruto can't dodge amaterasu. people are assuming this would go like how itachi made sasuke run , but no, sasuke can shoot multiple amaterasu at one time, so naruto can get hit from any direction, moreover, sasuke can know where naruto is going to move next and if he combine that with his amaterasu, its a definite hit.

SM Naruto clone explained that it senses danger and also sense an attack before it's launched and that's why SM Naruto clone beat 3rd Raikage with simple Rasengan when KCM clone failed with FRS.

Also If Amaterasu gets summoned on the target then why was Garra able to stop it with his sand :rolleyes: So you're wrong there.

Also As seen in fight against Madara's Wooden dragon Naruto doens't need to get out of cloak when he can undo the affected cloak and then redo it again U_U

And you really think sasuke would give time to naruto to enter SM :) ?

Gaara's Sand also blocks vision, sand is opaque. Sasuke can only burn what he can see. Whereas naruto's kyuubi cloak is transparent.

Lol i was implying that only. he can't run out of his cloak. Anyway, if naruto would do that , he would be wasting too much chakra, and there is still a little time gap in which naruto would be without the cloak. So sasuke still gets a shot.
 

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And you really think sasuke would give time to naruto to enter SM :) ?

Gaara's Sand also blocks vision, sand is opaque. Sasuke can only burn what he can see. Whereas naruto's kyuubi cloak is transparent.

Lol i was implying that only. he can't run out of his cloak. Anyway, if naruto would do that , he would be wasting too much chakra, and there is still a little time gap in which naruto would be without the cloak. So sasuke still gets a shot.

Sorry that I ever took a fanboy such as yourself seriously U_U

Naruto spams and keeps clones inside his cloak so entering SM in cakewalk U_U
Naruto wasting Chakra?? Naruto has all the chakra to waste.

Again this is my last reply to a fail fanboy thread which was countered and ended in my first two posts U_U
 
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