Orochimaru is underestimated

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Orochimaru has a clone of the first hokages body
he has capabilities of controling three hokage edos
potentially has a way to control the 1st if he was alone

orochimaru is respnocible for the death of two kages

has mokuton and now has a sturdy body so should also have a sage mode


He knows everything Kabuto knows plus everything he already know

he trained and raised kabuto

hes whitnessed all of sasukes powers (known ones anyway)


and people still dont have him in their top 5
 

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Its not that anyone thinks he's weak. He's just not retardedly powerful on his own like Hashi or Naruto. You don't ever really see ET users get credit for the strength of their edos. Not that it's not impressive its just the controlling mad genius type dont impress as much as the uber hulk mode that others achieved themselves.
 

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Its not that anyone thinks he's weak. He's just not retardedly powerful on his own like Hashi or Naruto. You don't ever really see ET users get credit for the strength of their edos. Not that it's not impressive its just the controlling mad genius type dont impress as much as the uber hulk mode that others achieved themselves.
this is a fact Intelligence is greater than raw power
 

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i make this thread at the kabuto fans
He means me.
Okay, first and last post. I do not underestimate Orochimaru, you fool. Orochimaru is easily top ten.
However, Kabuto's Edo Tensei is far more powerful than Orochimaru.
Orochimaru's Edos:
Tobirama
Hiruzen
Minato

Kabuto's Edos:
Ameyuri Ringo
Asuma Sarutobi
Chiyo
Chūkichi
Dan Katō
Deidara
Fourth Kazekage

Fuguki Suikazan
Gari
Ginkaku
Haku
Han
Hanzō
Hizashi Hyūga
Itachi Uchiha
Jinin Akebino
Jinpachi Munashi
Kakuzu
Kimimaro
Kinkaku
Kushimaru Kuriarare
Madara Uchiha
Mangetsu Hōzuki

Nagato
Pakura
Rōshi
Sasori
Second Mizukage
Shin
Third Raikage
Toroi
Torune
Utakata
Yagura
Yugito Nii
Zabuza Momochi

It's obvious who wins.
Goodnight.
 

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Okay, first and last post. I do not underestimate Orochimaru, you fool. Orochimaru is easily top ten.
However, Kabuto's Edo Tensei is far more powerful than Orochimaru.
Orochimaru's Edos:
Tobirama
Hiruzen
Minato

Kabuto's Edos:
Ameyuri Ringo
Asuma Sarutobi
Chiyo
Chūkichi
Dan Katō
Deidara
Fourth Kazekage

Fuguki Suikazan
Gari
Ginkaku
Haku
Han
Hanzō
Hizashi Hyūga
Itachi Uchiha
Jinin Akebino
Jinpachi Munashi
Kakuzu
Kimimaro
Kinkaku
Kushimaru Kuriarare
Madara Uchiha
Mangetsu Hōzuki

Nagato
Pakura
Rōshi
Sasori
Second Mizukage
Shin
Third Raikage
Toroi
Torune
Utakata
Yagura
Yugito Nii
Zabuza Momochi

It's obvious who wins.
Goodnight.
you call yourself an oro fan thats funny. you think oro's only jutsu is edo tensei
 

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Top 5? lol he can't even control his best asset :sy: once he summons his edos hashi and his opponent would whoop him and the rest of the edos.
 

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He has mostly Hashirama Senju DNA now, so any attack he does will be waaaaay stronger than normal.

And Orochimaru will STAY underestimated until Kishi really shows everyone what Orochimaru is all about. We just have to wait..
 

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those arent even the reasons he is a top 5 shinobi... the man cannot be killed... he has always taken precautions to live through just about anything... he has the largest chakra supply, only outdone by naruto... his jutsu knowledge is unparellel... his overall knowledge of the world and the ppl in it is unparallel... he can play with a jinchuriki... top lvl ninja are mostly afraid to fight him... and idid i mention that no one has figured out a way to kill him...
 

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Okay, first and last post. I do not underestimate Orochimaru, you fool. Orochimaru is easily top ten.
However, Kabuto's Edo Tensei is far more powerful than Orochimaru.
Orochimaru's Edos:
Tobirama
Hiruzen
Minato

Kabuto's Edos:
Ameyuri Ringo
Asuma Sarutobi
Chiyo
Chūkichi
Dan Katō
Deidara
Fourth Kazekage

Fuguki Suikazan
Gari
Ginkaku
Haku
Han
Hanzō
Hizashi Hyūga
Itachi Uchiha
Jinin Akebino
Jinpachi Munashi
Kakuzu
Kimimaro
Kinkaku
Kushimaru Kuriarare
Madara Uchiha
Mangetsu Hōzuki

Nagato
Pakura
Rōshi
Sasori
Second Mizukage
Shin
Third Raikage
Toroi
Torune
Utakata
Yagura
Yugito Nii
Zabuza Momochi

It's obvious who wins.
Goodnight.
HiddenSound while I agree that with Edo Kabuto would win, I think you should consider the 1st Hokage as Orochimaru's Edo since you're including Madara. Just as the 1st Hokages actions can't be controlled, Kabuto was never shown to control Madara who can himself completely break of out Edo. Also, against certain opponents the 1st Hokage would have no issue participating in combat along with Orochimaru (as they are now)
 
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