The Real Reason Why Sasuke Didn't Read The Uchiha Tablet

[NarutoKage2]

No, it's not that he couldn't read it, he just didn't need to read it.

The purpose of going to the Naka Shrine was because the Uchiha Tablet was needed to unseal the Shinigami. That is why Sasuke referred to the Tablet as "the important thing downstairs"

The Tablet was created by Rikudou Sennin, and the Shiki Fuujin was created by him as well.

Ah, i see yes definitely agree with you. The fact that he did'nt read it lends further credence to your previous theory, as now the question is asked ' just what was Sasuke doing at the shrine ?' Good job.

I'm not sold on the shiki fujin part, i think its still speculation to infer that the Rikudo sennin was an uzumaki, to my mind its still too far fetched(no offense). That would basically then beg the question, how exactly did the Sage awaken the rinnegan? Does it mean every uzumaki has the potential to have Uchiha like eye powers unlocked from within? We already know that the Uzumaki are related to the Senju, but they could just be an offshoot of the original senju clan that came from the Sage. That seems more likely to me. To say that they are a much older clan and that the Rikudo was one of them would require some explanation as to why the Sage was the only uzumaki to have ever had any eye powers ? There should have been at least one of them somewhere along the line who awakened some form of occular doujutsu, why was this specific to the Sage?

We know that:
-the Uzumakis have high life energy
- have very resilient bodies(like kushina and nagato)
-they were stated to be distant blood relatives of the senju.

Its far more likely that they are just an off shoot of the senju mixed with some other clans. Their relationship with the senju is justified by their abilities, but with the uchiha it is'nt.


Also, i think kishimoto has just left the SO6P shrouded in mystery on purpose(we have never even been shown his face).

Nonetheless, great theory about the tablet and the Rikudo being an uzumaki, even though i don't agree.


P.S: the tablet's relation with the Shiki fujin could also be due to another reason. As the rinnegan came from combining senju dna into an EMS wielding Uchiha, there might be a mix and match here as well. The Uzumaki may have descended from the senju, who shared a common ancestor with the uchiha. So, the uzumaki, being from the senju lineage, required one of their ultimate techs(the shiki fujin kai) to have an uchiha object, much as the uchiha require a senju for their ultimate eyes, i.e the rinnegan. This does'nt imply that the rikudo was an uzumaki, it just proves that these clans are connected.

 

[KuroKaze]

ya it further supports ur theory that the tablet acted as a catalyst in the revival process...

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

ya it further supports ur theory that the tablet acted as a catalyst in the revival process...

Indeed it does

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Ah, i see yes definitely agree with you. The fact that he did'nt read it lends further credence to your previous theory, as now the question is asked ' just what was Sasuke doing at the shrine ?' Good job.

I'm not sold on the shiki fujin part, i think its still speculation to infer that the Rikudo sennin was an uzumaki, to my mind its still too far fetched(no offense). That would basically then beg the question, how exactly did the Sage awaken the rinnegan? Does it mean every uzumaki has the potential to have Uchiha like eye powers unlocked from within? We already know that the Uzumaki are related to the Senju, but they could just be an offshoot of the original senju clan that came from the Sage. That seems more likely to me. To say that they are a much older clan and that the Rikudo was one of them would require some explanation as to why the Sage was the only uzumaki to have ever had any eye powers ? There should have been at least one of them somewhere along the line who awakened some form of occular doujutsu, why was this specific to the Sage?

We know that:
-the Uzumakis have high life energy
- have very resilient bodies(like kushina and nagato)
-they were stated to be distant blood relatives of the senju.

Its far more likely that they are just an off shoot of the senju mixed with some other clans. Their relationship with the senju is justified by their abilities, but with the uchiha it is'nt.


Also, i think kishimoto has just left the SO6P shrouded in mystery on purpose(we have never even been shown his face).

Nonetheless, great theory about the tablet and the Rikudo being an uzumaki, even though i don't agree.


P.S: the tablet's relation with the Shiki fujin could also be due to another reason. As the rinnegan came from combining senju dna into an EMS wielding Uchiha, there might be a mix and match here as well. The Uzumaki may have descended from the senju, who shared a common ancestor with the uchiha. So, the uzumaki, being from the senju lineage, required one of their ultimate techs(the shiki fujin kai) to have an uchiha object, much as the uchiha require a senju for their ultimate eyes, i.e the rinnegan. This does'nt imply that the rikudo was an uzumaki, it just proves that these clans are connected.

It is because the Rinnegan is unique only to the Sage because the sealing of the Juubi inside himself created the Rinnegan which altered his phenotype, that is why no other Uzumakis are able to awaken the Rinnegan, they lack the Juubi essence that Rikudou had:

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And I think it is unlikely that the Uzumakis would develop a technique that requires an inaccessible Tablet as its' catalyst (only those with Sharingan are able to enter the shrine) the reason why it was the catalyst for the Reaper Death Unseal was because both the Tablet and the Shiki Fuujin were developed prior to the schism between Senju and Uchiha which necessitates the Uzumakis predating both. Rikudou Sennin created the Tablet prior to the split of the Elder and Younger Son, and it's almost certain that Rikudou Sennin was also the one who created the Shiki Fuujin and the unsealing method: The Shiki Fuujin Kai.

 

[foxyladyland]

yeah it turns out this is a very probable explanation
I like it ties into the uchiha & uzumaki as well .
I also think of a connection between the two clan.
nice quick & simple explanation.

 

[NarutoKage2]

It is because the Rinnegan is unique only to the Sage because the sealing of the Juubi inside himself created the Rinnegan which altered his phenotype, that is why no other Uzumakis are able to awaken the Rinnegan, they lack the Juubi essence that Rikudou had:

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That chart is interesting but its non canonical to the manga. Also, it presents a whole host of problems:

1. If an Uzumaki(the rikudo) by sealing a mass of chakra inside himself/herself(the juubi) caused him/her to awaken the rinnegan, then why has this never been observed in any other jinchuriki? Your formula is: Uzumaki + mass of chakra= eye powers.

Manga facts:
-The bijjus are the 9 pieces of the Juubi, they were created from it.
-Mito Uzumaki was the jinchuriki of the 9 tails, yet never ONCE during her entire lifetime did she undergo any change to her eyes, despite living to an old age. If not the rinnegan, being an uzumaki and having a part of the juubi sealed within herself should mean that she too, should awaken at least SOME occular powers, perhaps something resembling a sharingan. Yet she awoke nothing. The Kyuubi is the strongest bijju and was a mass of hatred while he was sealed inside mito, being a bijuu means it came directly from the Juubi, it was only a split form.


2. The Uchiha curse of hatred was stated by Obito to have started by the decision of the Rikudo to choose the younger son over the elder, not some inherited evil from the juubi. If that were the case, every uchiha should have been evil.

3. The Sage had two sons, one inherited his eye power while the other inherited his body power. How can someone inherit a borrowed power?(If the Sage awoke rinnegan via contact with the Juubi) That's like saying that kakashi's children would also have sharingan.

4. If the source of hatred of the uchiha is the Juubi, then why would the Sage give his elder son that curse? Why not give both sons the same power of his body instead?

 

[Almighty Ra]

As always Derp u hit on the head like a jackhammer awesome theory

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

That chart is interesting but its non canonical to the manga. Also, it presents a whole host of problems:

1. If an Uzumaki(the rikudo) by sealing a mass of chakra inside himself/herself(the juubi) caused him/her to awaken the rinnegan, then why has this never been observed in any other jinchuriki? Your formula is: Uzumaki + mass of chakra= eye powers.

Manga facts:
-The bijjus are the 9 pieces of the Juubi, they were created from it.
-Mito Uzumaki was the jinchuriki of the 9 tails, yet never ONCE during her entire lifetime did she undergo any change to her eyes, despite living to an old age. If not the rinnegan, being an uzumaki and having a part of the juubi sealed within herself should mean that she too, should awaken at least SOME occular powers, perhaps something resembling a sharingan. Yet she awoke nothing. The Kyuubi is the strongest bijju and was a mass of hatred while he was sealed inside mito, being a bijuu means it came directly from the Juubi, it was only a split form.


2. The Uchiha curse of hatred was stated by Obito to have started by the decision of the Rikudo to choose the younger son over the elder, not some inherited evil from the juubi. If that were the case, every uchiha should have been evil.

3. The Sage had two sons, one inherited his eye power while the other inherited his body power. How can someone inherit a borrowed power? That's like saying that kakashi's children would also have sharingan.

4. If the source of hatred of the uchiha is assumed to be the Juubi, why did the Sage choose to give this curse to his Elder son? Why not give both of them the power of his body instead?


Not dissing on you btw, these points just don't add up.

1. Because there wasn't any other Juubi Jinchuuriki besides the Sage, Naruto and the other Jins are but host to a fragment of Juubi's power which are the Bijuus.

2. The curse of hatred manifested when the feral essence of the Juubi in conjunction with the Elder Son's hatred towards his brother gave birth to the Sharingan:

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3. The division of the powers of Rikudou Sennin was Teleological, not random genetic inheritance.

4. Because that would negate the proper division of Rikudou's Yin-Yang if he only gave the Yang part. As Madara has said in the previous chapter, two opposing forces: Yin and Yang, is the source of creation.

 

[The Madara Uchiha]

Makes sense, once again great thread sir obito!

 

[NarutoKage2]

1. Because there wasn't any other Juubi Jinchuuriki besides the Sage, Naruto and the other Jins are but host to a fragment of Juubi's power which are the Bijuus.

True, but that's basically like saying that massive amounts of acid can corrode an entire body, while small amounts won't corrode anything. Large amounts cause greater corrosion, but smaller amounts do the same thing on a smaller scale, its still the same thing. The Bijjus are part of the Juubi, fact. If the Juubi causes a change in an Uzumakis eyes, transforming them into a rinnegan, then a bijju should also cause some change in an Uzumaki's eyes within which they are sealed. Possibly a sharingan being awakened. It cannot be a rinnegan once and nothing every other time.

2. The curse of hatred manifested when the feral essence of the Juubi in conjunction with the Elder Son's hatred towards his brother gave birth to the Sharingan:

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Let's stick to the manga instead of our respective theories, ok? Here:

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Its clearly stated that the curse was born from the decision of the Sage. Btw, i would'nt mind arguing about your thread on this, but at a separate time perhaps.

3. The division of the powers of Rikudou Sennin was Teleological, not random genetic inheritance.

That does'nt explain the ancestors of each clan having what appear to be genetic inheritances as far as powers go.

4. Because that would negate the proper division of Rikudou's Yin-Yang if he only gave the Yang part. As Madara has said in the previous chapter, two opposing forces: Yin and Yang, is the source of creation.

Yang is physical energy, while yin is spiritual energy. Your response does'nt answer my question. You just postulated that the doujutsu of the Elder son and the uchiha came from the Juubi, also causing them to be filled with hatred as a side effect. Even if the division is achieved, why would the Sage give out a power that is bound to be assosciated with the hatred of the Juubi? Of course, assuming that a being such as the Juubi is even capable of such an emotion.
Yin power can be given out independent of doujutsu.

 

[Decimation206]

good job man

 

[FearxDeath]

Wait I dont understand what your saying... Why didnt Sasuke read the tablet? Even in the picture you yourself put up you see Sasuke kneeling down infront of the tablet, close to it, looking at it prior to Orochimaru using the jutsu?

You never say why sasuke didnt read it? You show that he already knows something important is downstairs, you show him kneeling down reading it, you go on to talk about your other theories? o__O, this ones got me stumped derp....

 

[King-Panda]

as always, nice thread

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Wait I dont understand what your saying... Why didnt Sasuke read the tablet? Even in the picture you yourself put up you see Sasuke kneeling down infront of the tablet, close to it, looking at it prior to Orochimaru using the jutsu?

You never say why sasuke didnt read it? You show that he already knows something important is downstairs, you show him kneeling down reading it, you go on to talk about your other theories? o__O, this ones got me stumped derp....

Sasuke was lighting the torches Lol

 

[Steaktacular]

I agree ^^

Seeing things connect is always good

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

True, but that's basically like saying that massive amounts of acid can corrode an entire body, while small amounts won't corrode anything. Large amounts cause greater corrosion, but smaller amounts do the same thing on a smaller scale, its still the same thing.

- The same principle doesn't apply here, that is a categorical error.

The whole is greater than the sum of its' parts.

Let's stick to the manga instead of our respective theories, ok? Here:

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Its clearly stated that the curse was born from the decision of the Sage. Btw, i would'nt mind arguing about your thread on this, but at a separate time perhaps.

The hatred of the Elder Son mixed with the feral essence of the Juubi birthed the Sharingan, there is no contradiction.

That does'nt explain the ancestors of each clan having what appear to be genetic inheritances as far as powers go.

It does since it was Rikudou's will that they be divided into Yin and Yang to each of his respective sons.

Yang is physical energy, while yin is spiritual energy. Your response does'nt answer my question. You just postulated that the doujutsu of the Elder son and the uchiha came from the Juubi, also causing them to be filled with hatred as a side effect. Even if the division is achieved, why would the Sage give out a power that is bound to be assosciated with the hatred of the Juubi? Of course, assuming that a being such as the Juubi is even capable of such an emotion.
Yin power can be given out independent of doujutsu.

All will be revealed in due time, none the less, the main concept that Kishimoto is introducing is "working together" that is the animating essence of this Manga

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Thank you

sweet and im steeling that pic muhahaha

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

That chart is interesting but its non canonical to the manga. Also, it presents a whole host of problems:

1. If an Uzumaki(the rikudo) by sealing a mass of chakra inside himself/herself(the juubi) caused him/her to awaken the rinnegan, then why has this never been observed in any other jinchuriki? Your formula is: Uzumaki + mass of chakra= eye powers.

Manga facts:
-The bijjus are the 9 pieces of the Juubi, they were created from it.
-Mito Uzumaki was the jinchuriki of the 9 tails, yet never ONCE during her entire lifetime did she undergo any change to her eyes, despite living to an old age. If not the rinnegan, being an uzumaki and having a part of the juubi sealed within herself should mean that she too, should awaken at least SOME occular powers, perhaps something resembling a sharingan. Yet she awoke nothing. The Kyuubi is the strongest bijju and was a mass of hatred while he was sealed inside mito, being a bijuu means it came directly from the Juubi, it was only a split form.


2. The Uchiha curse of hatred was stated by Obito to have started by the decision of the Rikudo to choose the younger son over the elder, not some inherited evil from the juubi. If that were the case, every uchiha should have been evil.

3. The Sage had two sons, one inherited his eye power while the other inherited his body power. How can someone inherit a borrowed power?(If the Sage awoke rinnegan via contact with the Juubi) That's like saying that kakashi's children would also have sharingan.

4. If the source of hatred of the uchiha is the Juubi, then why would the Sage give his elder son that curse? Why not give both sons the same power of his body instead?

me and my friends made that on that devian art

 

[Booker]

I thought you were right from the begining

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I thought you were right from the begining

Thank you for having faith in me then. Lol