Hashirama>Nagato

[VongolaX]

Sage Naruto won because of knowledge of ALL the Paths.
...and SM Naruto only beat The Paths. He never touched Nagato TBH.
Nagato was fucking the shit out of Naruto and Killer Bee WHILE HE WAS CRIPPLED.

Wrong! Nagato wasn't crippled when he rejuvenated himself, he lack mobility. Meaning he can not move at the same speed as a normal person. Beating bee and a kcm(after using 10,000 clone technique) naruto is a low feat since itachi did the same exact thing in the beginning of the fight. Itachi himself ended two of nagato's path with just a susanoo chop

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, which could be easily done by naruto/bee in a full transformation.

 

[VongolaX]

He could pin it down though.
If he gets chakra receiver(s) into the Kyuubi, he could control it like how he does the Paths.
Didn't you see how Obito controlled the other Bijuu?

There's so much Nagato could do. You're just underrating him. -yawn-
If you don't get the fact that Nagato isn't some pushover in your thick skull, then don't bother to reply.

It's pointless trying to argue with someone who doesn't understand you.

Obito pinning the bijuu's is his feats and those are the outer path techniques.
Nagato has never been able to use chakra rods in a huge scale like obito did to hachibi (not even his abilities to begin with).
It's pointless arguing with someone who doesn't understand the manga:|

 

[VongolaX]

Why would he use CT???? Read what happened last time when naruto with km fought nagato???? And he was crippled and had B's and itachi help now take them out....lol nagato would RAPE him

How was nagato crippled and he was able to move about freely? He just rejuvenated himself, and this conversation is about half the power of kyuubi. Let's not forget that naruto send out like 10k clones in the battle field so......low on chakra too. :/

 

[Black Ace]

You think just 'cause Hashirama has all that Hype he could easily beat Nagato?
No. I'd say Nagato might win this. Hahsirama barely won against EMS Madara.
Why do you think he has a better chance against a RINNEGAN user like Nagato?

Hashirama would win remember he defeat the nine tail beat annd if naruto can beat him obviously hashirama can beat him.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Wrong! Nagato wasn't crippled when he rejuvenated himself, he lack mobility. Meaning he can not move at the same speed as a normal person. Beating bee and a kcm(after using 10,000 clone technique) naruto is a low feat since itachi did the same exact thing in the beginning of the fight. Itachi himself ended two of nagato's path with just a susanoo chop

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, which could be easily done by naruto/bee in a full transformation.

Wrong:

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[- Їиfєяио -]

nagato shinra tensei's shinshusenju ... as far as i kno tats the strongest attack in hashi s arsenal

nagato stomps

 

[genii96]

Obito pinning the bijuu's is his feats and those are the outer path techniques.
Nagato has never been able to use chakra rods in a huge scale like obito did to hachibi (not even his abilities to begin with).
It's pointless arguing with someone who doesn't understand the manga:|

nagato mastered the rinnegan for over 30 years,can do several paths at once easily. Yet cant use some chakta rods?. You realize that thse rods are made for bijuus?,nut also bind the power of other things too. If nagato could control geso and use the heavenely tech of the outer path,he can use chakra rods. Also tobi has never shown the use of other paths,are you going to say he cant use any of them?

Nagato mastered the outer path like he did to the other paths,so using those chakra rods isnt a problem,he was never pushed yo use those as he never really had trouble,as pain,sm naruto gave him the most trouble,so why would he bothr using it? deva raped naruto anyway.

If tobi with one rinnegan can do that,after having the sharingan for a short time,nagato with 2 rinnegans,who has had the rinnegan for over 30 years can do it too.
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Nagato beats hashirama. Preta orb makes moukton useless,CT destroyes shuusinsenju and hashirama,CST also destroyes shusiinsenju,gedo mazo with chakra blasts and demonic chakra chains coupled with nagato's 6 paths,beat hash.

 

[7Zero]

A healthy, mobile Nagato could win, though Hashirama is clearly the favourite.

 

[VongolaX]

Wrong:

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Does lack of mobility mean, no mobility at all?
Look right here, he still was moving, just not as fast

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[VongolaX]

]nagato mastered the rinnegan for over 30 years,[/B]can do several paths at once easily. Yet cant use some chakta rods?. You realize that thse rods are made for bijuus?,nut also bind the power of other things too. If nagato could control geso and use the heavenely tech of the outer path,he can use chakra rods. Also tobi has never shown the use of other paths,are you going to say he cant use any of them?

Nagato mastered the outer path like he did to the other paths,so using those chakra rods isnt a problem,he was never pushed yo use those as he never really had trouble,as pain,sm naruto gave him the most trouble,so why would he bothr using it? deva raped naruto anyway.

If tobi with one rinnegan can do that,after having the sharingan for a short time,nagato with 2 rinnegans,who has had the rinnegan for over 30 years can do it too.
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Nagato beats hashirama. Preta orb makes moukton useless,CT destroyes shuusinsenju and hashirama,CST also destroyes shusiinsenju,gedo mazo with chakra blasts and demonic chakra chains coupled with nagato's 6 paths,beat hash.

You are the worse fanboy and stated the most stupidest thing i've ever heard. You clearly did not read the manga...

1. Chakra recievers were mode from Madara''s will not form bijuus, kid

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2. Give me a scan were it said nagato mastered the rinnegan, because he clearly didn't if he lose to sage mode naruto

3. Preta absorbing mokuton? Don't you know mokuton has absorbing abilities too?

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4. Ct is sh*t compared to the buddah which is one hundred times it's size, only an idiot would think it's bigger


You are horrible and should just stop posting, because what i'm reading is absolute rubbish with no proof.

 

[genii96]

You are the worse fanboy and stated the most stupidest thing i've ever heard. You clearly did not read the manga...

1. Chakra recievers were mode from Madara''s will not form bijuus, kid

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2. Give me a scan were it said nagato mastered the rinnegan, because he clearly didn't if he lose to sage mode naruto

3. Preta absorbing mokuton? Don't you know mokuton has absorbing abilities too?

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4. Ct is sh*t compared to the buddah which is one hundred times it's size, only an idiot would think it's bigger


You are horrible and should just stop posting, because what i'm reading is absolute rubbish with no proof.

you are clearly the one who dosent read the manga and say quite rubbish.

The only chakra receiver that madara made from is will was this one

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which he told tobi to use for his ressurection. Kid.

Did i even meantion chakra receivers?, i said chakra rods,or chakra disruption blades which each path of pain could use and make as much as they wanted. Try to read well, kid.

2) lost to sm naruto?,you mean when deva pinned naruto to the ground and sentall the toads flying out of kinoha,killed pa,knocked out ma,turned konoha to a crater,faced 6tk naruto trapped him,was about to trap 8tk naruto before he returned to normal again?,all while using deva path and not even himself. You seem to be reading another manga.

3)preta absorbs all ninjutsu that is chakra based,whether moukton can supress or not,once it touches the preta orb,it will get absorbed. It's supression powers wont help in the least.

4) size?,when CT is first thrown up,how big is it?,after some time,how big does it get?. Shuusinseenju is just a giant wood construct,CT would break it apart as it pulls it in,even if hashi tries to destroy it,he will have a gedo mazo to deal with coupled with nagato.

Try to read the manga before you blabber out rubbish

 

[VongolaX]

you are clearly the one who dosent read the manga and say quite rubbish.

The only chakra receiver that madara made from is will was this one

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which he told tobi to use for his ressurection. Kid.

Did i even meantion chakra receivers?, i said chakra rods,or chakra disruption blades which each path of pain could use and make as much as they wanted. Try to read well, kid.

2) lost to sm naruto?,you mean when deva pinned naruto to the ground and sentall the toads flying out of kinoha,killed pa,knocked out ma,turned konoha to a crater,faced 6tk naruto trapped him,was about to trap 8tk naruto before he returned to normal again?,all while using deva path and not even himself. You seem to be reading another manga.

3)preta absorbs all ninjutsu that is chakra based,whether moukton can supress or not,once it touches the preta orb,it will get absorbed. It's supression powers wont help in the least.

4) size?,when CT is first thrown up,how big is it?,after some time,how big does it get?. Shuusinseenju is just a giant wood construct,CT would break it apart as it pulls it in,even if hashi tries to destroy it,he will have a gedo mazo to deal with coupled with nagato.

Try to read the manga before you blabber out rubbish

Your stupidity holds no bound that you show no proof or any valid information...gtfo

 

[Dragon1]

No way Hashirama can beat healthy Nagato. No knowledge on the Rinnegan, full powered CT can't be countered.

 

[genii96]

Your stupidity holds no bound that you show no proof or any valid information...gtfo

look whose talking,at least try to have the courage to take a good owning rather than blabber than a little kid. Seeing as everything you said was countered rather easily though,it's no surpriseU_U.

 

[VongolaX]

look whose talking,at least try to have the courage to take a good owning rather than blabber than a little kid. Seeing as everything you said was countered rather easily though,it's no surprise U_U.

A kid is a teenager who is not aware of the experience that is well above 19yrs. You have yet to show proof in your stupid theory, and yet you still post nonsense with no coherent sense behind any of your statements. U_U

1. You said that you never mention chakra receiver but chakra blades that pein uses...That is the same f*cking sh*t you complete retard of a human being. Nagato got those chakra blades through gedo mazou, which crippled him. Guess were mazou achieve those rods/blade from? Madara's will smh...

2. Sm naruto kicked peins a$$, you know why? Rasegan killed the last path! Saying that naruto had help from summoning is a stupid thing to say, considering the fact that the animal realm had help against fighting naruto because it used summoning techniques to fight. So with that being said, the ninetails is a part of naruto's powers, and from what i saw the 6tailed form was kicking his a$$ until he use ct. After that, the rampaging of the 8tailed form broke out of ct, while sm naruto proceeded to killed deva with a simple rasengan. Read the f*cking manga kid!

3. I never said mukoton supress chakra, you dumba$$...
Mokuton absorbs chakra just like how kisame's sword absorbs chakra too. The mokuton consist of natural energy, and sage mode if you add what hashirama used on madara. How in the hell will preta absorb natural energy? You saw what happened to him when he tried to absorb naruto's, he simply turned to stone. gtfo with your preta wank

4. You comparing ct that couldn't even hold the ninetails (reminder that he only has half the chakra becaue of yin chakra was taken from him, decreasing his size 10 fold), compare to the statue that was bigger than PS and a full raging ninetails by 100x in size?
Only an idiot can come up with such logic.:|

 

[iRefleX]

Hashirama would win only because Nagato hasn't mastered the Rinnegan to a good extent. But Hashirama would be obtain alot of injuries during this battle. We don't if he can counter CT, deva path, preta path + the other paths + 360 vision + if his legs are healed properly (allowing to move around properly, during Nagato vs Naruto, killer B & Itachi - his legs never healed for some strange reason meaning he couldn't dodge without summon)

Now give the Rinnegan to someone like Madara. Hashirama gets shitted on.

Madara is a fodder? /facepalm /facepalm /facepalm

 

[genii96]

A kid is a teenager who is not aware of the experience that is well above 19yrs. You have yet to show proof in your stupid theory, and yet you still post nonsense with no coherent sense behind any of your statements. U_U

1. You said that you never mention chakra receiver but chakra blades that pein uses...That is the same f*cking sh*t you complete retard of a human being. Nagato got those chakra blades through gedo mazou, which crippled him. Guess were mazou achieve those rods/blade from? Madara's will smh...

2. Sm naruto kicked peins a$$, you know why? Rasegan killed the last path! Saying that naruto had help from summoning is a stupid thing to say, considering the fact that the animal realm had help against fighting naruto because it used summoning techniques to fight. So with that being said, the ninetails is a part of naruto's powers, and from what i saw the 6tailed form was kicking his a$$ until he use ct. After that, the rampaging of the 8tailed form broke out of ct, while sm naruto proceeded to killed deva with a simple rasengan. Read the f*cking manga kid!

3. I never said mukoton supress chakra, you dumba$$...
Mokuton absorbs chakra just like how kisame's sword absorbs chakra too. The mokuton consist of natural energy, and sage mode if you add what hashirama used on madara. How in the hell will preta absorb natural energy? You saw what happened to him when he tried to absorb naruto's, he simply turned to stone. gtfo with your preta wank

4. You comparing ct that couldn't even hold the ninetails (reminder that he only has half the chakra becaue of yin chakra was taken from him, decreasing his size 10 fold), compare to the statue that was bigger than PS and a full raging ninetails by 100x in size?
Only an idiot can come up with such logic.:|

oh,still blabbering like a child?,oh well getting owned twice might make you reconsiderU_U.

1) chakra receivers are the ones that pain uses to control the paths,you know?,the piercings?. Chakra disruption blades are used as weapons for the paths,and each path can make as much as they want. Both originate from gedo,but are of seperate uses. I have shown you the chakra reciever that madara made from his will,but since you are so ignorant,i wil show it again

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. You can clearly see in my manga prrof,that the only receiver that madara created was that one jotting from the abdomen of hashirama's living clone,dont know what you are arguing about.

2)yea,your ignorance know no bounds,deva kicked the shit out of sm naruto alongside all his toads after destroying konoha.it was when the kyubi broke out,thtat deva actually had to try,and he managed to catch it with CT,oh and he didnt want to kill naruto,so he had to hold back,when thw 8tk was breaking free,he simply was about to make it bigger,then naruto came back to normal. If deva wanted naruto dead,he'd be dead. Oh,and didnt hinat save naruto after deva kicked his butt?,cuz i actually read the manga and noticed that had hinata not come,naruto would have been catptured.

3) you are truly a shitstorm,moukon does not absorb chakra you idiot,it suppresses it,where did you get that shit from?or is it out of your ass?. So just because hashi is a sage,preta wont absorb his attacks?,did you miss the part where preta absorbed sm naruto's rasenshuriken?,or jiraiy's rasengan which is pure chakra?,did you miss that part?,or when he absorbed gaemon from j-man,ma and pa?,3 sages?. Gtfo with your stupidity,nagato would only turn to stone if he absorbes TOO much senjutsu chakra from hashirama himself you dumbass,isnt thay how preta turned to stone?.

4) the fact that you compare deva path to a healthy nagato shows your brain pwer. Oh an deva was about to make it bigger,plus he wanted to capture it,not crush it.

That wooden thing is a wood construct,which means it woud be ripped apart by CT,it wont be pulled whole,just like how CT cushes rocks,trees and other things while pulling,it will do the same to that thing,by the time that time reaches the core,it would be a pile of crushed wood.

Strike 2U_U

wanna get owned again?

 

[Dragon1]

2. Sm naruto kicked peins a$$, you know why? Rasegan killed the last path! Saying that naruto had help from summoning is a stupid thing to say, considering the fact that the animal realm had help against fighting naruto because it used summoning techniques to fight. So with that being said, the ninetails is a part of naruto's powers, and from what i saw the 6tailed form was kicking his a$$ until he use ct. After that, the rampaging of the 8tailed form broke out of ct, while sm naruto proceeded to killed deva with a simple rasengan. Read the f*cking manga kid!

If i remember correctly, Naruto lost the minute Pain pinned him down. Naruto had intel on Pain, help from the village, catching Pain exhausted after single-handedly destroying the strongest village, the fact that Pain wasn't trying to kill Naruto just capture him (which is HARD) and from Kurama (it isn't his power because he wasn't controlling it yet). Now you tell me where exactly did you see Naruto owning Pain?

4. You comparing ct that couldn't even hold the ninetails (reminder that he only has half the chakra becaue of yin chakra was taken from him, decreasing his size 10 fold), compare to the statue that was bigger than PS and a full raging ninetails by 100x in size?
Only an idiot can come up with such logic.:|

Uh, not exactly. He underestimated the 9th tails and even said that at this rate he will make a bigger one, but then Naruto got help from Minato and transformed back.

Btw, you should really calm down. This is a discussion forum, stop acting like a 12 years old

 

[genii96]

A kid is a teenager who is not aware of the experience that is well above 19yrs. You have yet to show proof in your stupid theory, and yet you still post nonsense with no coherent sense behind any of your statements. U_U

1. You said that you never mention chakra receiver but chakra blades that pein uses...That is the same f*cking sh*t you complete retard of a human being. Nagato got those chakra blades through gedo mazou, which crippled him. Guess were mazou achieve those rods/blade from? Madara's will smh...

2. Sm naruto kicked peins a$$, you know why? Rasegan killed the last path! Saying that naruto had help from summoning is a stupid thing to say, considering the fact that the animal realm had help against fighting naruto because it used summoning techniques to fight. So with that being said, the ninetails is a part of naruto's powers, and from what i saw the 6tailed form was kicking his a$$ until he use ct. After that, the rampaging of the 8tailed form broke out of ct, while sm naruto proceeded to killed deva with a simple rasengan. Read the f*cking manga kid!

3. I never said mukoton supress chakra, you dumba$$...
Mokuton absorbs chakra just like how kisame's sword absorbs chakra too. The mokuton consist of natural energy, and sage mode if you add what hashirama used on madara. How in the hell will preta absorb natural energy? You saw what happened to him when he tried to absorb naruto's, he simply turned to stone. gtfo with your preta wank

4. You comparing ct that couldn't even hold the ninetails (reminder that he only has half the chakra becaue of yin chakra was taken from him, decreasing his size 10 fold), compare to the statue that was bigger than PS and a full raging ninetails by 100x in size?
Only an idiot can come up with such logic.:|

oh,still blabbering like a child?,oh well getting owned twice might make you reconsiderU_U.

1) chakra receivers are the ones that pain uses to control the paths,you know?,the piercings?. Chakra disruption blades are used as weapons for the paths,and each path can make as much as they want. Both originate from gedo,but are of seperate uses. I have shown you the chakra reciever that madara made from his will,but since you are so ignorant,i wil show it again

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. You can clearly see in my manga prrof,that the only receiver that madara created was that one jotting from the abdomen of hashirama's living clone,dont know what you are arguing about.

2)yea,your ignorance know no bounds,deva kicked the shit out of sm naruto alongside all his toads after destroying konoha.it was when the kyubi broke out,thtat deva actually had to try,and he managed to catch it with CT,oh and he didnt want to kill naruto,so he had to hold back,when thw 8tk was breaking free,he simply was about to make it bigger,then naruto came back to normal. If deva wanted naruto dead,he'd be dead. Oh,and didnt hinat save naruto after deva kicked his butt?,cuz i actually read the manga and noticed that had hinata not come,naruto would have been catptured.

3) you are truly a shitstorm,moukon does not absorb chakra you idiot,it suppresses it,where did you get that shit from?or is it out of your ass?. So just because hashi is a sage,preta wont absorb his attacks?,did you miss the part where preta absorbed sm naruto's rasenshuriken?,or jiraiy's rasengan which is pure chakra?,did you miss that part?,or when he absorbed gaemon from j-man,ma and pa?,3 sages?. Gtfo with your stupidity,nagato would only turn to stone if he absorbes TOO much senjutsu chakra from hashirama himself you dumbass,isnt thay how preta turned to stone?.

4) the fact that you compare deva path to a healthy nagato shows your brain pwer. Oh an deva was about to make it bigger,plus he wanted to capture it,not crush it.

That wooden thing is a wood construct,which means it woud be ripped apart by CT,it wont be pulled whole,just like how CT cushes rocks,trees and other things while pulling,it will do the same to that thing,by the time that time reaches the core,it would be a pile of crushed wood.

Strike 2U_U

wanna get owned again?

 

[VongolaX]

oh,still blabbering like a child?,oh well getting owned twice might make you reconsiderU_U.

1) chakra receivers are the ones that pain uses to control the paths,you know?,the piercings?. Chakra disruption blades are used as weapons for the paths,and each path can make as much as they want. Both originate from gedo,but are of seperate uses. I have shown you the chakra reciever that madara made from his will,but since you are so ignorant,i wil show it again

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. You can clearly see in my manga prrof,that the only receiver that madara created was that one jotting from the abdomen of hashirama's living clone,dont know what you are arguing about.

2)yea,your ignorance know no bounds,deva kicked the shit out of sm naruto alongside all his toads after destroying konoha.it was when the kyubi broke out,thtat deva actually had to try,and he managed to catch it with CT,oh and he didnt want to kill naruto,so he had to hold back,when thw 8tk was breaking free,he simply was about to make it bigger,then naruto came back to normal. If deva wanted naruto dead,he'd be dead. Oh,and didnt hinat save naruto after deva kicked his butt?,cuz i actually read the manga and noticed that had hinata not come,naruto would have been catptured.

3) you are truly a shitstorm,moukon does not absorb chakra you idiot,it suppresses it,where did you get that shit from?or is it out of your ass?. So just because hashi is a sage,preta wont absorb his attacks?,did you miss the part where preta absorbed sm naruto's rasenshuriken?,or jiraiy's rasengan which is pure chakra?,did you miss that part?,or when he absorbed gaemon from j-man,ma and pa?,3 sages?. Gtfo with your stupidity,nagato would only turn to stone if he absorbes TOO much senjutsu chakra from hashirama himself you dumbass,isnt thay how preta turned to stone?.

4) the fact that you compare deva path to a healthy nagato shows your brain pwer. Oh an deva was about to make it bigger,plus he wanted to capture it,not crush it.

That wooden thing is a wood construct,which means it woud be ripped apart by CT,it wont be pulled whole,just like how CT cushes rocks,trees and other things while pulling,it will do the same to that thing,by the time that time reaches the core,it would be a pile of crushed wood.

Strike 2U_U

wanna get owned again?

My god!......there is so much stupidity that i don't know were to start correcting the idiotic theories you just made up. You can't even answer the question properly.


1. If chakra recievers are different from the chakra blade, show me in the manga were pain made his own blade instead of the one madara put into gedo mazou. Madara made the f*cking will which was put inside the mazou, while nagato got the chakra rods from mazou neck. F*cking dumba$$ here is the same black rods in gedo's neck

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2. You say my ignorance hold no bound? You literally re phrase every insult i said, because your nut size brain can not come up with anything valid. You admitted that after the rampaging of the ninetails, that is were pain lost. So, that clearly means naruto kicked pains a$$...You even forgot about the beginning of the fight, naruto killed 4 pains in one shot. Then he struggles with deva, after absorbing all of his chakra, and he still wins. smh (kyuubi doesn't count as help since it is considered naruto's power).

3. Mokuton suppresses chakra? It's confirm, you are stupid f*ck...
Apparently zetsu's hashi no justu suppress chakra and doesn't absorb people's chakra. I wonder how sasuke's chakra recovered as soon as zetsu touched him..

4. Half power kyuubi>>any full healthy nagato, common f*cking sense. Enough said...
A single punch from the wooden statue would break ct, it only took 3 attcks to break it (from itachi, naruto, and bee) and you expect something that took 12 bijuu dama's with PS sword combined to lose to a pebble?

You never owned any on, but just made yourself look very stupid...Quickly delete that post before you embarrass yourself any further. :/