Kishi messed up new chapters ( must read ) ( spoiler alert)

[Penguin]

I agree with Muslim. He does not want to be used.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Izuna is fodder.

 

[KingHashirama]

He didn't show them his sharingan.

Izuna's death wasn't shown in the Hashirama's flashback. Only his reason of death was shown.

 

[Xlad]

Mangekyou Muslim answered your question already.

 

[CrimsonFire]

Well I do admit the flash back was a little rushed, but I do not think Kishi messed up when comes to Madara having sharingan. Madara in this week chapter clearly showed he obtain sharingan not to long ago in the past and Madara probably just kept it a secret from his clan and family.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

He only showed it to his father when his resolve to fight the Senjus was complete.

 

[copilot1307]

When I had read it, I thought that Madara had not yet awakened his Sharingan when talking to Hashi. Of course, he knew he was an Uchiha and therefore could, but he stopped himself because a) it'd reveal his clan and b) he was ashamed(for lack of a better word) that he had not awakened it yet(being a child prodigy and all). I could be wrong though

 

[foxyladyland]

he kept it a secret from everybody
or
he just awakened it to save izuna
or
he is an uchiha and was talking to hashi like that because
he figured he would awaken it someday
I made thread on it

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[LitzSabr]

Kishi messed up in just 2 chapters? Thats a little hard to believe.
Madara didn't complete his sentence so only theories can now be given, maybe he really didn't had one. Its a little hard to tell because it didn't look like he left the sentence incomplete just to hide his uchiha identity(if he was hiding his identity then its pretty obvious that he had the sharingan) but instead of that he starts talking about being weak(and he looked serious about that so we can't really tell if he did that on purpose or not)

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Nothing is contradictory here. When Madara wanted to talk about his sharingan, he stopped and did not complete his answer. Clearly Hahsirama did not catch the leak. Therefore, to Hashirama, Madara unlocked his sharingan in the action of 624. From Madara's family standpoint, it is clear that they never saw Madara with Sharingan. This is very plain in the chapter given Izuna's words and their father's comments. So if we want to see logic in the sequence of chapters, it is easy to see that Kishi did not screw anything.

Another interpretation is that Hashirama might not have meant that Madara just unlocked the Sharingan (because he never said that Madara just awakened it). Rather,. Hashirama saw that Madara has already awaken the sharingan, and took not of it. Thus, again, there is no contradiction.

My opinion is that some people are so disappointed about the revelations Hashirama is giving about Madara, that they want Kishi to be wrong.

Let analyze Edo Madara for example, since he was revived:

1. He used only Susanoo as a signature Uchiha jutsu. He also used genjutsu on a weakened raikage. Then as Uchiha, he used fire jutsu. Apart from that, we saw Perfect Susanoo whose origin is has not been decided across the forum.

2. Madara has used Hashirama's Jutsu in each one of his final or decisive blow. Madara has been spamming Rinnegan, thanks to Hashirama's DNA and the fusion that Kabuto did.

3. As soon as Madara shown up, the first thing he tried was to summon Kyuubi.

All these show that though Madara was a badass for regular shinobi clan, he does not really show all the hypes about him when it comes to facing his natural rival - Hashirama.

Besides, according to history, the greatest account on Madara is about taming the Kyuubi - which is nothing but having a super genjutsu. My opinion is that Madara's fan should pray that Hashirama did not let him live, because it would be a disgrace to him. In fact, one of my opinion is that Madara became a legend because every time he came back alive from a battle with Hashirama, his contemporary did not know that he was spared. Rather, they thought he survived because Hashirama couldn't kill him.

 

[JMannn]

What about translation error? I noticed that too, but my assumption is that it was a translation error.

 

[LitzSabr]

Nothing is contradictory here. When Madara wanted to talk about his sharingan, he stopped and did not complete his answer. Clearly Hahsirama did not catch the leak. Therefore, to Hashirama, Madara unlocked his sharingan in the action of 624. From Madara's family standpoint, it is clear that they never saw Madara with Sharingan. This is very plain in the chapter given Izuna's words and their father's comments. So if we want to see logic in the sequence of chapters, it is easy to see that Kishi did not screw anything.

Another interpretation is that Hashirama might not have meant that Madara just unlocked the Sharingan (because he never said that Madara just awakened it). Rather,. Hashirama saw that Madara has already awaken the sharingan, and took not of it. Thus, again, there is no contradiction.

My opinion is that some people are so disappointed about the revelations Hashirama is giving about Madara, that they want Kishi to be wrong.

Let analyze Edo Madara for example, since he was revived:

1. He used only Susanoo as a signature Uchiha jutsu. He also used genjutsu on a weakened raikage. Then as Uchiha, he used fire jutsu. Apart from that, we saw Perfect Susanoo whose origin is has not been decided across the forum.

2. Madara has used Hashirama's Jutsu in each one of his final or decisive blow. Madara has been spamming Rinnegan, thanks to Hashirama's DNA and the fusion that Kabuto did.

3. As soon as Madara shown up, the first thing he tried was to summon Kyuubi.

All these show that though Madara was a badass for regular shinobi clan, he does not really show all the hypes about him when it comes to facing his natural rival - Hashirama.

Besides, according to history, the greatest account on Madara is about taming the Kyuubi - which is nothing but having a super genjutsu. My opinion is that Madara's fan should pray that Hashirama did not let him live, because it would be a disgrace to him. In fact, one of my opinion is that Madara became a legend because every time he came back alive from a battle with Hashirama, his contemporary did not know that he was spared. Rather, they thought he survived because Hashirama couldn't kill him.

Only the beginning of your post was related to the topic

 

[shelke]

You guys still don't get,.. These are flashbacks from different people WHO ARE NOT MADARA!!!

All of these stories are inaccurate, from Tobi's version to Itachi's and Hashirama's.

We've seen 3 different flashbacks involving Madara's life,.. NONE of them by Madara himself.

You're supposed to use your own intellect to get to the right conclusion.

This. People need to accept the subjectivity in Hashirama's anecdote. He is not madara, henceforth, his tale cannot be accurate on this account as he is relating someone else's life without any contact with their Clan in those trying times.

Or, it could just be Kishimoto's poor writing rearing its ugly head umpteenth time in the manga.

 

[6thpathsage]

No, he just never told anyone if his eyes, because his father would make him fight more often
that, or he was saying he could get those eyes

I'm sure this is correct . I thought it was a plothole but this makes sense

 

[Huang]

This. People need to accept the subjectivity in Hashirama's anecdote. He is not madara, henceforth, his tale cannot be accurate on this account as he is relating someone else's life without any contact with their Clan in those trying times.

Or, it could just be Kishimoto's poor writing rearing its ugly head umpteenth time in the manga.

This isn't Dragonball or Bleach where the story changes every season,
so that you only have to pay attention to it every few weeks or so,
that even small children with mental handicaps are able to comprehend what's going on.

So, believe me, it's not due to Kishi's writing AT ALL. So far he's on par with Urusawa IMO.

The problem is people's inability to read the story.

 

[Strawberry]

No, he just never told anyone if his eyes, because his father would make him fight more often
that, or he was saying he could get those eyes

Okay I can see where you are coming from but hashirama stated that he awakened em because he lost hashirama as afriend okay maybe that's not how he awakened them but losing him should have upped his sharingan to another level it seems that he Had the starting one.

and all of you guys are missing the point of this thread it was to either show an error or hashiramas not knowing the story the purpose of this for me to see if izuna was killed in another way aka madara doing it

 

[God Itachi]

Do you know about secrets?

He didn't want anyone to know

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

Well technically he started to say I have a sharingan (singular).

So perhaps he only had it activated in one eye - and then in the newest chapter he activated it in his other eye.

Tada!

(Remember that at one point sasuke had 1 tomoe in one eye and 2 tomoe in the other )

 

[Untung]

This flash back is to tell the personality from madara and hashirama, look last chapter when madara lose. He still have the arogant personality.

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

I agree with Mangekyou Muslim