Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

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cut the crap. who ever said madara killed his kid brother for his eyes? lies. the was war and there was king hashirama and madara wasnt even a match to him though he was stronger than all uchihas including his kid brother. to top up to hashirama because he was losing his sight after awakening MS (fear of fully losing his eyes which were his power during the fight) his brother wilfully gave him his eyes so that he could awaken EMS not that he killed his brother for it. in fact this sacrifice by his brother was what drove madara furthest into darkness as after the war, he was preparing a coup against the senju but his fellow uchiha brothers had had enough of war and rejected him. he was so made that the sacrifice of his brother was all in vain so he left on self exile.

naruto himself is a senju dont forget senju have the ability to long life a threat in narutos mother who even after the full kyubi was ripped off her body, she still was alive. the same is the case with tusnade, nagato (Pain)
 

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Uchihas are obviously the strongest clan out there, I mean it only took one of them to annihilate the whole clan. lol
 

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This was obvious to say the least, only Uchiha haters(Senju/Uzumaki fanatics) would disagree. This is constantly heavily implied throughout the manga and some people actually believe otherwise simply because Hashi>Madara, even with the odds in Hashi's favor(auto-healing and the ability to suppress the 9 tails with wood, wtf) Madara still lived and Hashi didn't, granted we don't know the details. Point is even if Hashi>Madara, which personally I don't believe for obvious reasons, I think Madara would have won without the involvement of the 9 tails. That doesn't make Senju>Uchiha, that is laughable at best, Senju may have been above average, but Uchiha were the Elites.

Senju
-Hashirama

Uchiha
-Madara
-Izuna
-Obito
-Itachi
-Sasuke
-Shisui
-Hell, even Uchiha fodders had hype.

Better to be a fanboy than blind.
 

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Maybe Tobirama is but Hashi is not
 
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No matter how you put it Sharingan has more disadvantages than it has advantages, Its basically saying that Uchiha bloodline reflects the severing of bonds made with the world. Sasuke has experienced a near complete extinction of his bloodline, and now we notice that he possesses a Sharigan that no other Uchiha has had in previous recorded history. To use the sharigan however, the user must relive the past that gave them the particular sharigan eye, "Thats kinda why I think their eyes bleed sometime" Idk correct me if im wrong. Anyway, I just think that the Sharingan is more of a curse to the uchiha, even though he does have its perks, it just seems kinda weak in all, Opponents are easily able to counter Uchiha users, But it all about how many and at what times you must face them,.. In a war the Uchiha Clan would be a huge problem to go against. But one on one, the tables turn.


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Maybe Tobirama is but Hashi is not

HAshirama won't live forever you're missing the point of this thread.
And it's one of the reasons why Tobirama suppress one of the biggest clans in Konoha- Uchiha.
 
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If Tobirama was implying that any uchiha could reach madara's power level then i guess it's safe to say the uchiha is stronger....
 

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If Tobirama was implying that any uchiha could reach madara's power level then i guess it's safe to say the uchiha is stronger....

Not any, that's rarely, yet enough though. You don't need ems at all 3 tomoe is still scary enough because they have an army after all.
 
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No respect for any clan who tries a coup d'etat. Bunch of overpowered traitors like Ginkaku and Kinkaku. Only Itachi has my respect.

It sucks to be cursed, I can be happy that they r dead and not cursed anymore. Tobirama is simply jubilant. :p I feel his joy.
 

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No respect for any clan who tries a coup d'etat. Bunch of overpowered traitors like Ginkaku and Kinkaku. Only Itachi has my respect.

It sucks to be cursed, I can be happy that they r dead and not cursed anymore. Tobirama is simply jubilant. :p I feel his joy.

No wonder that Sarutobi clan had no power to rule, so it's not surprising to seem them using one of the Uchiha's justu but that's another story. So yeah be happy.
 
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No wonder that Sarutobi clan had no power to rule, so it's not surprising to seem them using one of the Uchiha's justu but that's another story. So yeah be happy.

What does the Sarutobi clan got to do with this thread? I'd rather have a Sarutobi's brain that doesn't have emo chakra that pours in them and turn my eyes into something evil like the Uchihas. That makes them dangerous. Tobirama tried to channel that for the greater good but to no avail.

I'm happy for the Leaf to be safe from such danger. Sucks to be Sasuke. :)
 

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true. Tobirama was just scared of the Uchiha and that fear lead to all of the bad things that happened to the Uchiha.
 

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To me it goes..
1.Hashirama
2.Madara/Tobirama
3.Everyone else

So I'd say that they are on equal terms till Hashi passed, then the power would have swayed back to Uchiha but without a Madara to lead them, they were unable to take advantage of the reversal of power and were played by 'Nazirama' lol
 

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Nice one guys,feeling the flow.I can't believe Tobirama would do something like that,i already had enough reasons to hate the Uchihas,now,i learn that were actually kinda cursed.Sucks to be an Uchiha and more importatly it sucks to be Sasuke.
 

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STOP trolling:flaw: all you people do is read one thing an blow it out of proportion yes the Uchiha were emotionally unstable but they are not stronger than the Senju just because Tobirama said that their love is/was stronger thenceforth their drive. What you must take into consideration is that the Senju clan have the body of the Sixth Sage which make them physically stronger which allows them to be able to endure physical things while being more loving and inviting. The Uchiha have eyes which allow them to visually/emotionally perceive more and being able to see more will of course trigger your feeling while making them more spiritual and willing to reject feeling ex: Sasuke and Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura, Madara and Hashirama. Even though their clans have been at war since their genesis Hashirama was still willing to accept Madara while Madara, being hesitant, leading to his leaving the Leaf a village he co created in order to fight the enemy (who accepted you) to the death which verifies my point(s) Comment if you dare
 
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