Prime Hurizen?

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lets not overrate someone who has no feats to match this power :

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True, but you should know that's Rinnegan Madara and that power scalings change a lot.
 

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lets not overrate someone who has no feats to match this power :

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watch out, kages might pull a " Enma will become huge and destory perfect susano'o" Lmao. :drive:
 

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watch out, kages might pull a " Enma will become huge and destory perfect susano'o" Lmao. :drive:

Then Enma will be the one to beat it, not Hiruzen.
True, but you should know that's Rinnegan Madara and that power scalings change a lot.

Of course the powerscaling changed.. cause these are stronger jutsus then what Hiruzen showed.If your saying that if Hiruzen from part 1 was in part 2, then it would be a totally different thing.. Then you my friend are wrong. Itachi's genjutsu was OP in part 1 and in part 2. Same goes for Kisame /Jiraiya. Its just Hiruzen didn't show jutsus on that scale ^_^


Susano'o is a EMS technique and the scan below is a further testimony:

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True, but you should know that's Rinnegan Madara and that power scalings change a lot.

Madara stated that who ever seen the perfect Susano'o died which indicates that he used it with EMS as he unlocked rinnegan in his death state.
 

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Don't trip, new chap tonight. We will see aloof his jutsu that we never got to see before the revamp. We will know why he is the professor
 

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he Knows all the fodder jutsu's like kakashi knows 1000 jutsu's.

were's ur proof, it was stated on the manga and anime that he knows all of konoha's jutsus and in the databook it was stated that he was the strongest kage, so im pretty sure hiruzen on his prime would easily be a top 5
 

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Madara stated that who ever seen the perfect Susano'o died which indicates that he used it with EMS as he unlocked rinnegan in his death state.

Power scales still change and EMS Madara obviously didn't have as much chakra as current Madara.
 

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were's ur proof, it was stated on the manga and anime that he knows all of konoha's jutsus and in the databook it was stated that he was the strongest kage, so im pretty sure hiruzen on his prime would easily be a top 5

Strongest Kage of his generation.
 

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Eh old man is a old man. I would love to have seen him f*ck up danzo as bad as he did.
 

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Power scales still change and EMS Madara obviously didn't have as much chakra as current Madara.

why do you keep stating power scaling changed in part 2? Everything hurizen showed was fodder in comparison to hashirama's feats. Even hurizen's Death god tech is minato's which is sad. :drive:
 

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Obito also said Hashirama was the strongest of his time.
And Dan also said that the Hokage from his time, which was sarutobi, is considered below Hashirama and Madara.
 

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Power scales still change and EMS Madara obviously didn't have as much chakra as current Madara.

then why would Madara state in the manga page kinghashirama showed us " Let me show you the full power of Madara uchiha"?
 

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why do you keep stating power scaling changed in part 2? Everything hurizen showed was fodder in comparison to hashirama's feats. Even hurizen's Death god tech is minato's which is sad. :drive:
It was proven in the new chapter that Minto didn't create RDS
 
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