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Endurance battles he gets stomped on.
how does itachi hurt obito? amaterasu? no. tsukyomi? unlikely if sasuke broke out. susanoo? no he can't keep it up longer than obito can remain intangible or if he can he could just phase out when he tries to totsuka. itachi is amazing but he can't beat everyone
Imo itachi was portrayed as a god like figure throughout the series, i don't blame kishi for givng him that mystery fatal illness to downgrade his capabilities.
Fact is very few ninja can beat him in a fight, notice itachi hardly ever tried his hardest in a fight because he doesn't need to.
His easily top 10, no debate there. And to the itachi haters, as pain would say...
Know Intelligence.
Knowledge is key in defeating an enemy. Nagato knew most of Jiraiyas tech but Jiraiya had no info of his. Theoretically he took advantage because he was afraid to fight Jiraiya once he knew his secret. As for Obito he had to lay low... like really low to stay out of Itachis radar because unlike Jiraiya, Itachi is faster at deducing techniques and finding a weakness in his opponents as proven by his fights.
itachi is like the batman of naruto. undefeatable and always finding a weakness to his opponents
Itachi is indeed very strong, and his quotes are my favourites in the series. but it's unbelievable how much he's overrated, he's portrayed as jiraiya's equal and while that places him in the current timeline's top 10, there are various shinobi who are much stronger. he and jiraiya are equal in the databook, and tsunade and oro half a point behind, with kakashi and old hiruzen 1.5 pts behind.
Itachi- subdued Kakashi, Orochimaru, Deidara, died vs Hebi Sasuke because he wanted to.
Jiraiya- forced itachi and Kisame to flee, subdued 4-tails naruto with high diff, subdued konan, defeated 3 pains, died vs pain because he wanted to. he didnt win as easily at itachi, but he also fought way higher level opponents as well tbf.
itachi and jiraiya died within minutes of each other and for the same cause, to help naruto and sasuke. and it's implied heavily that naruto and sasuke surpassed jiraiya and itachi with sm and ms. to me it's pretty clear that kishi intended them as equals. but i don't see people wanking all over jiraiya.
at any rate, there are a lot of characters with much better feats. particularly feats where one takes on multiple top tiers at once, which neither jiraiya nor itachi have ever done.
hanzou- defeated the sannin, wounded nagato
nagato- defeated hanzou, flattened konoha, it took full intel and the kyuubi to stop him, and 2 perfect jinchuuriki and edo itachi to stop him as an edo.
hiruzen- orochimaru and 2 edo hokage
minato- ay and bee, obito and kyuubi
naruto- his clones were fighting kage, enough said
obito- killing 20 jounin, konan with prep, and taking on naruto,bee, guy and kakashi at once.
edo madara- kills 5 kage. ems madara also flattened muu and oonoki without using perfect susanoo apparently.
hashirama- defeated kakuzu, ems madara+kyuubi
kabuto- edo itachi and ems sasuke
sasuke- fights all 5 kage in sequence, although he would have been killed alone he still hadnt fully developed his ms.
i think we can all agree that the above's feats supercede those of itachi and jiraiya. and while itachi has intelligence and shinobi sense in spades, plus great abilities to apply that, also remember that he doesn't have the stamina to implement them fully, except when going completely all out vs sasuke. plus he would have been blind by 22. so in short, a great shinobi with big flaws that are glossed over by his fanboys.
Itachi is my top 5 favorite characters and His Fanboys (D1ckriders for example.. ixc) Make me sick of itachi. As soon as ixc breaks a new topic to suck itachi's wang a bit, i hate his fanboys even more.
*If you want itachi to be praised by everyone and respected, try not to d1ckride him like you always do ixc. thank you.
Actualy itachi was a true hero, one that wont think twice to make the hard choice and sacrifices himself for others without think about him first.
Maybe kishi made itachi to complete and overpower that at the end of the day kishi decide to nerf him with a sickness.
i really want to see (not edo) itachi vs edo madara.
i respect him but i think obito, madara, naruto would make an epic fight with him. (not sure who would win) and sasuke (he already made a good fight)
He didn't make them flee, Itachi left because he knew that he had to fight Jiraiya and since we all know that Itachi was one of the good guys he had to avoid a fight, Kisame afterwards asked Itachi why they had to leave and said ''You could've....'' Saying that he knew that Itachi could have defeated Jiraiya but Kisame didn't know that Itachi was 1 of the good guys.
Watch Episode 85
At 13:22 Here is where Kisame asked Itachi why they had to leave. Itachi is out of Jiraiya's league. The only reason why they're rated the same in the DataBook is duo to Itachi's low stamina duo to his illness.
so then explain why he told kisame to eliminate kakashi, asuma and kurenai, and didn't interfere when kisame was going to main and capture naruto. all that happened in the same day btw. so according to you kakashi is expendable yet jiraiya who barely was inside konoha is not? the fact is that once jiraiya made that toad stomach both akatsuki were at a disadvantage, like it or not.
and yeah, itachi's stamina is his biggest weakness, so what? it's part of his characteristics, don't sweep it below the rug just because it doesn't suit you. jiraiya has a crappy genjutsu rating as well which bumps down his score, despite having a great way around that in sage mode as he woudl have the toads to break him out and toad song. and hiruzen would have a perfect score if he wasn't old. nagato would have a perfect score if he wasn't crippled.
also, that itachi's low stamina is due to his illness is far from a fact, i'll make a thread about it soon. the myth of 'healthy itachi' is another pathetic attempt of you itachi fanboys to attempt to justify your claims that he can compete with shinobi who are on another level.
amenItachi is the boss will always be the boss and is just that awsome of a character nuff said