[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 617 Discussion and 618 Predictions

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Do you remember that lovely part when naruto broke obitos mask? could have easily used path abilities.

remember that entire fight when it was just him fighting gai and naruto? Could have easily kicked gais ass using some path teqs.

remember that fight with madara vs the kages? he made clones of himself. they all should have been using path teqs.

The entire reason everyone obsesses over those eyes is the power they give. yet only negato used them.

Im sure Madara could have easily used those powers before the ten tails was even out.

The "Bad guys" aren't even trying to win at this point.

madara could have easily used a HUGE push like pain did to the village and knock ALL those ninjas back.
Madara could have easily made clones before hand and used path teqs. THEY HAVE UNLIMITED POWER.

There would be no strain of edo madara the entire time. madara was suppose to be a genius yet he doesn't think ahead?

Madara could have easily put up a WALL of black fire like obito did beforehand to protect the gedo.

Could have easily used a normal black fire teq, unlimited chakra so no worrys about how many ninja there are, They are all coming from the same direction.

Naruto didn't give every single ninja a cloak.

The ten tails is suppose to be all important and powerful< yet they just stand there. if anything they should have wiped out much more by now. seriously, they nuked villages far off and killed the headquarters. so why not use one at close range?

Too much BS talk no jutsu. the entire hinata speech should not have happened. just Bijuu bomb the bastards.
The villians are like the bad guys from Harry potter. They spent 8 movies trying to kill a boy and no1 thought of just shooting the ****er?
tldr but obito was waiting on narutos answer during the speech remember?
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guys stop trying to overwork kishi godam =/
 

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It seems like Kishimoto just decided to give up on Sakura's development as a main character. Seriously, she hasn't done anything during this war, aside from destroying a single Zetsu.
 

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Again, you're forgetting Obito's entire Rinnegan was being used to control both the Jiinchuurikis and Gedou Mazou. The explanation is given by Kakashi himself in here:


So, yeah. I proved my point with Obito. With Madara, I believe he doesn't have an infinite source of Chakra. What he has is basically an inmortal body. Being inmortal doesn't exclude you from normal, human conditions like bleeding (Itachi bled while using his Mangekyou) the only exception being perhaps (PERHAPS) being tired. Chakra is never unlimited, at least not for a human. It is for the Kyuubi and for the Juubi, but not for Madara. He's not all powerful. He got beaten by Hashirama, and not even Hashirama was all powerful. They were both the strongest ninja of their time, but the time has changed. You can't expect Madara to remain being the strongest forever.

As far as I'm concerned, Naruto's relationship with the Sage of the Six Paths is way too strong, particularly with the Sage's younger Son. The one who replaced him. And the Younger son IS more powerful than Madara, which can perfectly make sense.
Obito didn't have anything to worry about the entire fight he did against gai and naruto and kakashi. The beast were already taken care of and the Gedo was releasing the ten tails. so he was completely free. he was also free as soon as madara showed up before the ten tails.

And as of now if they don't do a single path ability after the fact they are disconnected from the ten tails then they pretty much just let the alliance win.
 

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To all those who are complaining that Madara got beat by Lee. Why should Madara give a ****? He's immortal and has endless chakra. He's probably having a blast out there. He doesn't have to worry about getting hit because it DOESNT ****ING MATTER. Now that Madara is off the jubbi and can focus his chakra on other things prediction:

Madara: Hey Lee
Lee: Yes
Madara: METEOR TO THE FACE!!!
 

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Why are people talking on Sakura as being dormant forgetting the rules she functions by. Her Sensei (Tsunade did tell us right: )
1.) Medical Ninjas shall never give up on treating team-mates as long as they live.
2.) MEDICAL NINJAS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENGAGE IN BATTLES.
3.) Medical Ninjas shall be the last to die in the team.
With all this if Sakura had been engaged in active fighting, Kishimoto would have been inconsistent with Chapter 577 & she wud have broken the Medical Ninja rules; except she has mastered: BYAKUGOU. the mitotic regeneration jutsu like her master.

Also Madara has given an hint to taking him down ( & ) that is to hit him directly which is what Lee did. Also what Tsunade did when the Kages took down his mokuton clone
 

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Okay, so let me see if I got it: according to many of you, Naruto as a story is going downhill because Madara's Edo Tensei body got cut ONCE by a Taijutsu User's kick? Oh right, and also because the Friendship Message is getting "boring". I quote "Kishi overpowers his villains so much that in the end, he has to troll them in order for the good guys to win". Sigh. Sigh. Facepalm. Another sigh. And another facepalm on top of it.

Yet ANOTHER display of mind simplicity. "Yeah, there are villains and there are good guys, so the good guys must win regardless of the villain's strenght" ... For God's sake. Naruto is NOT a manga about bad guys and good guys. If it was, then why in the love of Tsunade's breasts would he bother even thinking about the "villains" past, and hardships? A villain is a villain no matter the circumstances, right? This is not a Manga about good vs evil. This is a Manga about HOW TO CREATE PEACE. If you actually READ the Manga, you'll see both sides of the war fight for their own sense of Peace. It pains my eyes and brain to see so much hate against the Manga. Having your own opinion is fine, but ruining other people's mood because you think your opinion is absolute is just annoying and irritating.

You don't like "Friendship Bull****"? Fine. What are you doing reading this Manga, then? It's been about "Friendship Bull****" since the very beginning, in fact, Kishimoto's first idea of the Manga was about Naruto trying to find a "real friend", in case you didn't know. Deal with it or stop reading, simple as that. Stop the mother****ing hating and bitching about a Manga that even your sorry ass keeps reading regardless of your stupid mentality. DAMN! You get on my nerves so much...

About Madara not countering or doing something about Lee's kick... *Sigh. Okay. What would you like him to do then?

1) "Shinra Tensei": Okay, fine do it. Boom. Shinra Tensei. But then there is a time period in which he can't use it again, and there are... Uhhh... Thousands or more than thousands of people coming at you?

2) "Susanoo": Okay fine. Susanoo. Boom. However, If you can melt it, crack it, or even trespass it as people kept doing with Sasuke's, then it's not gonna be too useful, is it? Especially since it's not like against the five Kages, which are FIVE people, but against THOUSANDS of ninjas, including some more powerful than those Kages. Just think logically, for God's sake.

3) "Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi": Yayyyyy, let's burn them/mind-own them with our Mangenkyou! But then again, they are THOUSANDS. By the time I'm done with SOME of them, the others get him. DUH!

4) "Bansho Ten'nin or any other Rinnegan ****": I think I have already made my point about how many people are there coming to Madara?

Oh, and by the way... Remember he is using his Mokuton already (Well, not exactly Mokuton but you get the idea) through Hashirama's cells to strengthen the Juubi. Also remember that he is so proud of his Susanoo that when he saw he didn't kill anybody with it, he said it would be a disgrace to show it again. Too bad. God complexes are bitches, aren't they?

To explain Obito's lack of use of the Rinnegan... Um, sorry what have you been reading until now? Remember the battle against the Jiinchuuriki? And how Naruto needed several chapters (including being eaten by the Yonbi) to take the blessed black rods away from every one of them? And then remember how Kakashi wondered if he couldn't use the same techniques as Pain because he already was using all his eye might to CONTROL the jiinchuurikis? I mean, you really don't pay attention to ****, do you? You just like hating and hating and hating, and then you ask the same stupid questions and don't realize the answers are right there in front of your halfassed nose. All because Your Majesty's expectations of the Manga were not met successfully. Tch! What a drag these haters are. Man!

Obito needed the damn Rinnegan to control the Jiinchuurikis AND Gedou Mazou. Isn't it OBVIOUS that he would need it ALSO to control the JUUBI, who is far stronger and more powerful than the other two? DUH!!!!!!! The second he wastes a Shinra Tensei on the Alliance, he'll lose control of the Juubi and the Juubi will kill him and blow him to smitherines!! Seriously, there HAS to be something wrong with your head to not see this. Oh yeah, I know what it is. You want to see Naruto fail, because Sasuke is your ****ing sexual fantasy, and you want him to ****ing penetrate your asses. That's why.

God I needed to say that.

Anyway, I loved the chapter. Amost cried with it. Excited to see who it is Sasuke will meet, I really hope it is Shisui, we need some real deal Uchiha besides Madara, Obito and Itachi to shut these annoying Sasuke Fanboys up. Nice kick, Lee. Keep it up. It would be nice to see you actually fighting Madara and wreaking havoc with him.

The fight is not over until it's over. Obito and Madara aren't desperate, so they're not gonna try and fight for real until they really are. Don't lose faith on Kishimoto. Especially not with such foolish, childish and worthless opinions.
Amen. It is just entertainment. Kishi can nuke everybody in the next panel. Then what. This isn't the magna carta. Damn!
It is about second-chances and redemption. Go read something else. Again, DAMN!!
 

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I'm saying this as someone who is neutral on the subject of Sakura. I see everyone's perspective on Sakura. While every friend Naruto has is important to him, some are more important to him than others. It seems Sakura is moving down on that list. As for her being useless, I see where everyone is coming from. It isn't theory anymore, it's becoming fact. Sakura may have been useful, but since the defeat of Sasori, I've seen little that can really disprove a whole armada of Sakura haters. I have no intention of starting a flame war, but I can't help but feel that Sakura is becoming more and more obsolete as a character simply because the author isn't focusing on her development as a character.
Everyone has a role. She can do much more as a medical-nin than running around with only her super-strength, which makes her more useful as a medical-nin. Everybody can't be invincible and nuke everything.

Everyone has their role. When she went after Gaara, she had to fight but her genius as a medical-nin really saved the day so she was able to CONTINUE to fight.

This reminds me of people who only glamorize foot soldiers, when they need transportation to get there, food to eat and more bullets. Without these support functions the foot soldiers can't continue to fight.
 

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I don't think that kyuubi is actually a manifestation of hate actually... more like he grew to hate many things after seeing humans do their wicked things. And along comes a human who is so... good? Kyuubi has regained what most of us have lost... some faith in humanity.
Yeah, when all of the tailed-beasts were sitting around the SOSP, they weren't "evil" or "good". Just young and sad. Then they dealt with humanity and being used as weapons, that tends to jade you a little bit. And the oldage, "power corrupts, and ultimate power corrupts ultimately". He is the most powerful, his words, and so was probably the most sought after and he has the biggest ego. You do the math......
 

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this chapter was amazing , i really like narutos last words , but do u guys think the 10 tail is goin to crazy now that nobodys controling it i think narutos goin to have to handle that , also do u guys think sesuke is goin get a power up because if he were to go head to head with naruto now he would get he's ass handed to him ,
 

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Okay, so let me see if I got it: according to many of you, Naruto as a story is going downhill because Madara's Edo Tensei body got cut ONCE by a Taijutsu User's kick? Oh right, and also because the Friendship Message is getting "boring". I quote "Kishi overpowers his villains so much that in the end, he has to troll them in order for the good guys to win". Sigh. Sigh. Facepalm. Another sigh. And another facepalm on top of it.

Yet ANOTHER display of mind simplicity. "Yeah, there are villains and there are good guys, so the good guys must win regardless of the villain's strenght" ... For God's sake. Naruto is NOT a manga about bad guys and good guys. If it was, then why in the love of Tsunade's breasts would he bother even thinking about the "villains" past, and hardships? A villain is a villain no matter the circumstances, right? This is not a Manga about good vs evil. This is a Manga about HOW TO CREATE PEACE. If you actually READ the Manga, you'll see both sides of the war fight for their own sense of Peace. It pains my eyes and brain to see so much hate against the Manga. Having your own opinion is fine, but ruining other people's mood because you think your opinion is absolute is just annoying and irritating.

You don't like "Friendship Bull****"? Fine. What are you doing reading this Manga, then? It's been about "Friendship Bull****" since the very beginning, in fact, Kishimoto's first idea of the Manga was about Naruto trying to find a "real friend", in case you didn't know. Deal with it or stop reading, simple as that. Stop the mother****ing hating and bitching about a Manga that even your sorry ass keeps reading regardless of your stupid mentality. DAMN! You get on my nerves so much...

About Madara not countering or doing something about Lee's kick... *Sigh. Okay. What would you like him to do then?

1) "Shinra Tensei": Okay, fine do it. Boom. Shinra Tensei. But then there is a time period in which he can't use it again, and there are... Uhhh... Thousands or more than thousands of people coming at you?

2) "Susanoo": Okay fine. Susanoo. Boom. However, If you can melt it, crack it, or even trespass it as people kept doing with Sasuke's, then it's not gonna be too useful, is it? Especially since it's not like against the five Kages, which are FIVE people, but against THOUSANDS of ninjas, including some more powerful than those Kages. Just think logically, for God's sake.

3) "Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi": Yayyyyy, let's burn them/mind-own them with our Mangenkyou! But then again, they are THOUSANDS. By the time I'm done with SOME of them, the others get him. DUH!

4) "Bansho Ten'nin or any other Rinnegan ****": I think I have already made my point about how many people are there coming to Madara?

Oh, and by the way... Remember he is using his Mokuton already (Well, not exactly Mokuton but you get the idea) through Hashirama's cells to strengthen the Juubi. Also remember that he is so proud of his Susanoo that when he saw he didn't kill anybody with it, he said it would be a disgrace to show it again. Too bad. God complexes are bitches, aren't they?

To explain Obito's lack of use of the Rinnegan... Um, sorry what have you been reading until now? Remember the battle against the Jiinchuuriki? And how Naruto needed several chapters (including being eaten by the Yonbi) to take the blessed black rods away from every one of them? And then remember how Kakashi wondered if he couldn't use the same techniques as Pain because he already was using all his eye might to CONTROL the jiinchuurikis? I mean, you really don't pay attention to ****, do you? You just like hating and hating and hating, and then you ask the same stupid questions and don't realize the answers are right there in front of your halfassed nose. All because Your Majesty's expectations of the Manga were not met successfully. Tch! What a drag these haters are. Man!

Obito needed the damn Rinnegan to control the Jiinchuurikis AND Gedou Mazou. Isn't it OBVIOUS that he would need it ALSO to control the JUUBI, who is far stronger and more powerful than the other two? DUH!!!!!!! The second he wastes a Shinra Tensei on the Alliance, he'll lose control of the Juubi and the Juubi will kill him and blow him to smitherines!! Seriously, there HAS to be something wrong with your head to not see this. Oh yeah, I know what it is. You want to see Naruto fail, because Sasuke is your ****ing sexual fantasy, and you want him to ****ing penetrate your asses. That's why.

God I needed to say that.

Anyway, I loved the chapter. Amost cried with it. Excited to see who it is Sasuke will meet, I really hope it is Shisui, we need some real deal Uchiha besides Madara, Obito and Itachi to shut these annoying Sasuke Fanboys up. Nice kick, Lee. Keep it up. It would be nice to see you actually fighting Madara and wreaking havoc with him.

The fight is not over until it's over. Obito and Madara aren't desperate, so they're not gonna try and fight for real until they really are. Don't lose faith on Kishimoto. Especially not with such foolish, childish and worthless opinions.
you are my hero <3
 

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ATTENTION TO:

1 - TO THOSE WHOSE SAID THIS MANGA GOING DOWNFALL
2 - TO THOSE WHOSE SAID KISHI IS THE BIGGEST TROLLED
3 - TO THOSE WHOSE UNDERRATED ALL THE CHAPTERS
4 - TO THOSE WHOSE WANT SASUKE AND UCHIHA SAVE THE MANGA

C'MON SERIOUSLY GUYS.. I am really a died hard fans of NARUTO not for only his character but whole series. I really enjoy this THREAD READING but if you guys gonna complain and critics the chapter every week like kishi MAKING THE BIG MISTAKES, you guys making this thread IS NOT FUN ANYMORE.. hence didnt it MAKE YOU GUYS 'THE BIGGEST TROLLED'?? pfffttt..

IT'S LIKE 70% OF PEOPLE HERE underated this chapter and past few chapter and few said NARUTO going downhill and bla bla.. I THINK THEY ALL A BUNCH OF EMO KIDS HEH.. If thIS NARUTO series really makes you think that its going downfall every week then you can always STOP READING and find new manga that suit YOU!

THANK YOU for your time and consideration..

OHH FORGOT TO THANK ALL WHO STILL SANE and MATURE that really discuss about every chapter well.. You GOT THE POINT and really PREDICT WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT..

AND TO THOSE WHO COMPLIMENT LEE -->> you guys ARE THE BEST XDDDDD

P:S// NARUTO BANZAI TTEBAYO :)
p:S// NARUTOBASE THE BEST!!
 

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Okay, so let me see if I got it: according to many of you, Naruto as a story is going downhill because Madara's Edo Tensei body got cut ONCE by a Taijutsu User's kick? Oh right, and also because the Friendship Message is getting "boring". I quote "Kishi overpowers his villains so much that in the end, he has to troll them in order for the good guys to win". Sigh. Sigh. Facepalm. Another sigh. And another facepalm on top of it.

Yet ANOTHER display of mind simplicity. "Yeah, there are villains and there are good guys, so the good guys must win regardless of the villain's strenght" ... For God's sake. Naruto is NOT a manga about bad guys and good guys. If it was, then why in the love of Tsunade's breasts would he bother even thinking about the "villains" past, and hardships? A villain is a villain no matter the circumstances, right? This is not a Manga about good vs evil. This is a Manga about HOW TO CREATE PEACE. If you actually READ the Manga, you'll see both sides of the war fight for their own sense of Peace. It pains my eyes and brain to see so much hate against the Manga. Having your own opinion is fine, but ruining other people's mood because you think your opinion is absolute is just annoying and irritating.

You don't like "Friendship Bull****"? Fine. What are you doing reading this Manga, then? It's been about "Friendship Bull****" since the very beginning, in fact, Kishimoto's first idea of the Manga was about Naruto trying to find a "real friend", in case you didn't know. Deal with it or stop reading, simple as that. Stop the mother****ing hating and bitching about a Manga that even your sorry ass keeps reading regardless of your stupid mentality. DAMN! You get on my nerves so much...

About Madara not countering or doing something about Lee's kick... *Sigh. Okay. What would you like him to do then?

1) "Shinra Tensei": Okay, fine do it. Boom. Shinra Tensei. But then there is a time period in which he can't use it again, and there are... Uhhh... Thousands or more than thousands of people coming at you?

2) "Susanoo": Okay fine. Susanoo. Boom. However, If you can melt it, crack it, or even trespass it as people kept doing with Sasuke's, then it's not gonna be too useful, is it? Especially since it's not like against the five Kages, which are FIVE people, but against THOUSANDS of ninjas, including some more powerful than those Kages. Just think logically, for God's sake.

3) "Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi": Yayyyyy, let's burn them/mind-own them with our Mangenkyou! But then again, they are THOUSANDS. By the time I'm done with SOME of them, the others get him. DUH!

4) "Bansho Ten'nin or any other Rinnegan ****": I think I have already made my point about how many people are there coming to Madara?

Oh, and by the way... Remember he is using his Mokuton already (Well, not exactly Mokuton but you get the idea) through Hashirama's cells to strengthen the Juubi. Also remember that he is so proud of his Susanoo that when he saw he didn't kill anybody with it, he said it would be a disgrace to show it again. Too bad. God complexes are bitches, aren't they?

To explain Obito's lack of use of the Rinnegan... Um, sorry what have you been reading until now? Remember the battle against the Jiinchuuriki? And how Naruto needed several chapters (including being eaten by the Yonbi) to take the blessed black rods away from every one of them? And then remember how Kakashi wondered if he couldn't use the same techniques as Pain because he already was using all his eye might to CONTROL the jiinchuurikis? I mean, you really don't pay attention to ****, do you? You just like hating and hating and hating, and then you ask the same stupid questions and don't realize the answers are right there in front of your halfassed nose. All because Your Majesty's expectations of the Manga were not met successfully. Tch! What a drag these haters are. Man!

Obito needed the damn Rinnegan to control the Jiinchuurikis AND Gedou Mazou. Isn't it OBVIOUS that he would need it ALSO to control the JUUBI, who is far stronger and more powerful than the other two? DUH!!!!!!! The second he wastes a Shinra Tensei on the Alliance, he'll lose control of the Juubi and the Juubi will kill him and blow him to smitherines!! Seriously, there HAS to be something wrong with your head to not see this. Oh yeah, I know what it is. You want to see Naruto fail, because Sasuke is your ****ing sexual fantasy, and you want him to ****ing penetrate your asses. That's why.

God I needed to say that.

Anyway, I loved the chapter. Amost cried with it. Excited to see who it is Sasuke will meet, I really hope it is Shisui, we need some real deal Uchiha besides Madara, Obito and Itachi to shut these annoying Sasuke Fanboys up. Nice kick, Lee. Keep it up. It would be nice to see you actually fighting Madara and wreaking havoc with him.

The fight is not over until it's over. Obito and Madara aren't desperate, so they're not gonna try and fight for real until they really are. Don't lose faith on Kishimoto. Especially not with such foolish, childish and worthless opinions.
fuh glad someone in the same boat like me *hugs* .. you da best xDD
 
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