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How come a guy's wrong belief will make it not eligible?
Come on bro. Give a proof one time.

Wow that was quick, already finshed reading that thread I told you to read which contains the 'proof' ?

You should know the difference between thinking you are right and being an ignorant assh*le. I'm not going to say anymore about this matter than I already have. I already said multiple times that the databooks are written by assitants, if you want to know more YOU do some research instead of being a smartass everytime the word Databook pops up.
 

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Sod off, there is an entire thread about this topic, look it up and never bring this up again.

Even the guy who started the discussion admitted that Oda doesn't write that shit.

hahahahah - rep:) me all you want but you want to hear something funny what you are saying is based on a fake rumor by the likes of you who can't take the fact that zoro and luffy are equals =D
 
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Like seriously the only people who think Zoro is stronger are either Zorotards or idiots who like to troll.

Luffy has always been stronger than Zoro ever since the start of the series Luffy has always defeated the strongest enemy while Zoro has defeat mostly the second strongest.

People only assume Zoro is stronger than Luffy due to the fact Zoro hasn't broken a sweat in the new world yet...well the reason for this is look at the enemies he's battled. Octopus swordsman and Monet possibly two of the weakest enemies in both arcs. Also Zoro never held his own against an Admiral, Fujitora wasn't even trying.

Sanji is Zoro's rival in the crew not Luffy.

Luffy > Zoro >= Sanji.
 

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Wow that was quick, already finshed reading that thread I told you to read which contains the 'proof' ?

You should know the difference between thinking you are right and being an ignorant assh*le. I'm not going to say anymore about this matter than I already have. I already said multiple times that the databooks are written by assitants, if you want to know more YOU do some research instead of being a smartass everytime the word Databook pops up.

Didn't read the thread. I know I'm gonna be disappointed like everytime but do give the link.
 

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Luffy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Green tea head

by The way Love Cook Cr7 is better than that tax evader,
Hardwork > Talent calma calma
 

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Lol you're trying too hard. Stop crying about the obvious and just accept what you already know is true.

And nice try with the good old Luffys weakness = blades excuse, lmao that way every hand to hand fighters weakness is blades. Jimbe, Sanji, Luffy, Garp, Vergo, Hancock, Zephyr etc.

I can post feats of both characters in almost every arc, and Luffy's feats always come out on top.

HOWEVER. Zoro is able to beat opponents luffy may not be able to(and vice versa). Luffy could probably not beat Daz bones. While zoro could not beat crocodile.(etc)
No Luffy would beat Daz Bones. Daz is not immune to blunt attacks, he's immune to sword attacks, he even said it himself that swordsman cant beat him. Considering Luffy punched right through bedrock during alabasta, Daz would be wishing he was never born. Ofcourse Luffy would have to injure his hands to do the deed but he'd win easier than Zoro did.

Luffy>Zoro>Sanji ... That's just how it is

I can only hope that Zoro fans don't become like Itachi fans
They're worse, in Naruto you can make a case for Itachi. One Piece power ranking is very different, when you try to argue Zoro is stronger or equal to his captain, you've lost it.

i don't agree with him either because i think zoro>luffy zoro has done more impresive things in the new world than
luffy
This is the dumbest post I've read in a while.

Lol Zoro fought

-fodder Hyouzou
-fodder Monet
-got put to bed by the fodder Yeti Cool Brothers
-Got downed by a non serious Fujitora (decent feat for holding is ground for a bit)

And that puts him over Luffy? lol...
 
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Lol you're trying too hard. Stop crying about the obvious and just accept what you already know is true.

And nice try with the good old Luffys weakness = blades excuse, lmao that way every hand to hand fighters weakness is blades. Jimbe, Sanji, Luffy, Garp, Vergo, Hancock, Zephyr etc.

I can post feats of both characters in almost every arc, and Luffy's feats always come out on top.


No Luffy would beat Daz Bones. Daz is not immune to blunt attacks, he's immune to sword attacks, he even said it himself that swordsman cant beat him. Considering Luffy punched right through bedrock during alabasta, Daz would be wishing he was never born. Ofcourse Luffy would have to injure his hands to do the deed but he'd win easier than Zoro did.


They're worse, in Naruto you can make a case for Itachi. One Piece power ranking is very different, when you try to argue Zoro is stronger or equal to his captain, you've lost it.


This is the dumbest post I've read in a while.

Lol Zoro fought

-fodder Hyouzou
-fodder Monet
-got put to bed by the fodder Yeti Cool Brothers
-Got downed by a non serious Fujitora (decent feat for holding is ground for a bit)

And that puts him over Luffy? lol...

i can't reason with someone like you, you're already mad there is no point.
 

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Didn't read the thread. I know I'm gonna be disappointed like everytime but do give the link.

Wanna play dumb ? This is your own quote:

LitzSabr said:
@Love Cook

Casual reading and well I found an interesting thing related to our discussion.



Just directly go to the third last line of the OP. It says ''NOTE: Data Book Green (as well as any other data book) has Oda's name on the cover, but is not written by Oda. It is written by assistants and editors with Oda's approval."

Now this is from APforums. You know they (Redon/Greg etc) are well ahead than us on these matters of One Piece. So there it is known that his assistants write the databooks with Oda's approval.
 

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Wanna play dumb ? This is your own quote:

NOTE: Data Book Green (as well as any other data book) has Oda's name on the cover, but is not written by Oda. It is written by assistants and editors with Oda's approval.

-Straight from the link. What. Missed that? .-.

Edit: BTW, what's with the "wanna play dumb" thing? you tell me of some thread which who knows is on NB or maybe some other forums. How am I supposed to know that unless you tell me?
 
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NOTE: Data Book Green (as well as any other data book) has Oda's name on the cover, but is not written by Oda. It is written by assistants and editors with Oda's approval.

-Straight from the link. What. Missed that? .-.

Edit: BTW, what's with the "wanna play dumb" thing? you tell me of some thread which who knows is on NB or maybe some other forums. How am I supposed to know that unless you tell me?

this guy is honest and not biased.
 

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this guy is honest and not biased.

Because he is the only fanboy who falls for your trolling, Databooks and are not cannon material, are not written by Oda. They are filled to the brim with mistakes, I don't believe for a second that Oda carefully reads them over. Only thing that is confirmed is that he delivers sketches and small texts and editors do the rest. There is no telling what is and what isn't true. One thing's for certain, drawing pie charts isn't Oda's style, that would limit his posibilities for charachter development.

Can you maybe now reply to the points in my first points with valid arguments instead of saying that the canon material I provided are asumptions ?
 

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Because he is the only fanboy who falls for your trolling, Databooks and are not cannon material, are not written by Oda. They are filled to the brim with mistakes, I don't believe for a second that Oda carefully reads them over. Only thing that is confirmed is that he delivers sketches and small texts and editors do the rest. There is no telling what is and what isn't true. One thing's for certain, drawing pie charts isn't Oda's style, that would limit his posibilities for charachter development.

Can you maybe now reply to the points in my first points with valid arguments instead of saying that the canon material I provided are asumptions ?
pfff you again......>_>
dude i'm sorry but we all know the reason you are angry is because Sanji is the weakest out of the monster trio
and you don't want him be left alone

it goes like this zoro=luffy>sanji you should be angry at oda not me ;) bye
 

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pfff you again......>_>
dude i'm sorry but we all know the reason you are angry is because Sanji is the weakest out of the monster trio
and you don't want him be left alone

it goes like this zoro=luffy>sanji you should be angry at oda not me ;) bye

Last time I checked this thread wasn't about Sanji. I asked you to reply to my first post. I will repeat the points again so you can counter them with valid arguments instead of childish behaviour.

Luffy = Messi
Zoro = Ronaldo

Luffy is the short talented guy who always will be ahead at the end of the day while Zoro who trains his ass off is doomed to follow in his shadow.

Also, you like to brag that Oda is on your side, if so please show it.

Third point, Luffy has been show CoA multiple times, but Zoro hasn't shown it even once so that's not really working in his favor that argument.

Zoro did not fight Kuma as you stated in the OP, Zoro surprise attacked Kuma, and even that was only enough to just tear his clothes, there was no damage done at all except for a small dent in a shoulder mechanism, even though that was Zoro's strongest attack.

If Luffy would've fought Zoro's enemies he would finish the fights easier and faster, where as Zoro would fight Luffy's fights he would most likely die. (Quote from EL arc from Zoro, "If Luffy can't beat Lucci, we will all die right here'')

And Luffy's weakness isn't blades, he is just as vulnerable to them as normal humans, just because he is stronger to blunt attacks don't make blades his weakness.

So end of the day Luffy > Zoro

So please try to answer this time
 

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see what an injured tired fighting alone zoro can do just for luffy
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while kuma made a joke out of luffy he could not defend anyone in gear "second"
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why do you guys think zoro was injured during that fight its called plote device !
 

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Last time I checked this thread wasn't about Sanji. I asked you to reply to my first post. I will repeat the points again so you can counter them with valid arguments instead of childish behaviour.



So please try to answer this time

I think you should just stop....the guy you're arguing seems a bit ignorant and not the smartest person here....I mean I have argued with you in the past about zoro being the first mate and such meaning you know I love zoro but luffy is stronger than zoro but like I said the op seems to lack logic and is ignorant so save your time and just stop since if I was to judge this argument I would it was over in the 2nd page and you won but the op keeps going in circle
 
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see what an injured tired fighting alone zoro can do just for luffy
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while kuma made a joke out of luffy he could not defend anyone in gear "second"
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why do you guys think zoro was injured during that fight its called plote device !

Yeah I appreciate the 'action shot' very badass and all, but now let's check the result:

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The only thing that Zoro accomplished was that he ripped Kuma's clothing and only was able to make a very minor dent in his shoulder gear. What Zoro did was a surprise attack while he was busy with Luffy, When Luffy was fighting Kuma, he didn't have the luxury of the element of surprise.

Also the fact that Zoro was able to hit Kuma there is also a form of plot device, because it was Oda's way of showing us that Kuma is a cyborg, that wasn't something we wouldn't have found out unless he got hit in some way. And since Zoro was the only one around to deal the demage he got this hit 'handed' to him, but sadly it didn't do any damage.
 

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Yeah I appreciate the 'action shot' very badass and all, but now let's check the result:

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The only thing that Zoro accomplished was that he ripped Kuma's clothing and only was able to make a very minor dent in his shoulder gear. What Zoro did was a surprise attack while he was busy with Luffy, When Luffy was fighting Kuma, he didn't have the luxury of the element of surprise.

Also the fact that Zoro was able to hit Kuma there is also a form of plot device, because it was Oda's way of showing us that Kuma is a cyborg, that wasn't something we wouldn't have found out unless he got hit in some way. And since Zoro was the only one around to deal the demage he got this hit 'handed' to him, but sadly it didn't do any damage.

again wrong he ripped of his skin and some metal kuma and you can clearly see smoke coming out of it.
try again.
 

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again wrong he ripped of his skin and some metal kuma and you can clearly see smoke coming out of it.
try again.

Are you now arguing against a picture ?

1) There is not even skin in the part that Zoro cut
2) There is no cut in the metal AT ALL, there is just a mere dent
3) The smoke is created by technique, as there is no obvious damage

And to reply on your double post, Zoro might be still standing, but it was Luffy who beat Oz and Moria. Not Zoro.
 
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