Will Slug Sage Mode ever be shown?

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Ashura uses Six Paths Senjutsu, where did he learn his sage mode :|

Moyuboku
Minato
Jiraya
Naruto
Hagoromo: anime

Ryuchi Cave
Oro
Kabuto
Jugo's curse mark origins
Mitsuki

Who else has sage mode? Ashura and Hashi... You think they're slug sages too??? :|
You don't even make sense. :|
 

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You don't even make sense. :|

All senjutsu users have so far been showed where they learnt their sage mode :|

Hashirama leaves a loop hole in that regard and you force him to be from shikkotsu forest :|
where did Ashura learn his then? :|
Stop putting fodder feats on Hashi. His SM is not known, leave it as that... it needs no theories
 

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The REAL simmilarity is the association of "Forest".

Senju Clan of the FOREST
Mokuton
And lastly, Healing Abilities


The other is a cave and a mountain.

Another coincidence is no one has ever had the chakra reserves to summon full Katsuyu while frogs and snakes can be summoned easily. That suggests only someone with Hashirama's level of chakra can summon her full body the same way Orochimaru summons Manda or Jiraiya summons his toads.

It implies only he would have had the ability to use the slug's power to its full extent which makes sense because Katsuyu's ability to heal is the same as the Byakogou's which is the same as Hashirama's, and she's also able to enhance the user's regeneration feats.
 

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Frog Kata???? Frog Kata is normal taijutsu used with sage chakra instead...

What did biological thing did Naruto gain????

Jiraya: gained sage oil, oily frog skin, flattening himself into sheet thin like frogs <=== These are gained things don't come here force relations by bringing Frog kata as a gained thing :|

Jiraiya's techniques are all frog-based, toad oil is oil from a toad, oily frog skin is skin from a frog. Is it that difficult to understand ? All his jutsu were learned from frogs, not from dragons nor from slugs. And neither Kabuto nor Hashirama would have been able to use his jutsu unless they were taught by frogs.

Frog kata it's taijutsu specifically acquired from Frog SM, hence the term frog kata. It's the ability to use the frog's taijutsu through the use of frog SM, it's simple as that.

Every SM user has unique abilities, Naruto had frog kata after being taught by frogs, Kabuto gained the ability to shed his skin and cast sound genjutsu because he was taught by the snake sage, therefore Hashirama's ability to heal would have come from Slug SM because only slugs have the ability to heal like him.
 

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Naruto gained frog kata and Kabuto gained the ability to shed his skin like Orochimaru. Each SM has different abilities and the healing Hashirama gained from his SM is the same healing Katsuyu has.

People don't go looking for Tsunade's cells because it doesn't contain Ashura's chakra but Katuyu's healing is the same as the Byakogou and it's a known fact Byakogou has the same healing as Hashirama.

That would make slug sage mode meaningless for the likes of Tsunade & Sakura becuase their healing abitiles are already on par with Hashiarma's but I do think it would increase the speed, strength & sensory.
 

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Another coincidence is no one has ever had the chakra reserves to summon full Katsuyu while frogs and snakes can be summoned easily. That suggests only someone with Hashirama's level of chakra can summon her full body the same way Orochimaru summons Manda or Jiraiya summons his toads.

It implies only he would have had the ability to use the slug's power to its full extent which makes sense because Katsuyu's ability to heal is the same as the Byakogou's which is the same as Hashirama's, and she's also able to enhance the user's regeneration feats.
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That would make slug sage mode meaningless for the likes of Tsunade & Sakura becuase their healing abitiles are already on par with Hashiarma's but I do think it would increase the speed, strength & sensory.
You're joking right? Hashirama's healing abilities are almost Juubi jin like :| Sakura and Tsunade healings are fodder they just resemble Hashiramas not on par
 

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You're joking right? Hashirama's healing abilities are almost Juubi jin like :| Sakura and Tsunade healings are fodder they just resemble Hashiramas not on par

Read the manga, Byakgou regenerates cells and organs to the point any fatal wound is instantly healed, Hashirama and Kurama are the only ones able to heal to that extent and Madara even made the comparison between his healing as Tsunade's.
 

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Jiraiya's techniques are all frog-based, toad oil is oil from a toad, oily frog skin is skin from a frog. Is it that difficult to understand ? All his jutsu were learned from frogs, not from dragons nor from slugs. And neither Kabuto nor Hashirama would have been able to use his jutsu unless they were taught by frogs.

Frog kata it's taijutsu specifically acquired from Frog SM, hence the term frog kata. It's the ability to use the frog's taijutsu through the use of frog SM, it's simple as that.

Every SM user has unique abilities, Naruto had frog kata after being taught by frogs, Kabuto gained the ability to shed his skin and cast sound genjutsu because he was taught by the snake sage, therefore Hashirama's ability to heal would have come from Slug SM because only slugs have the ability to heal like him.

You missed my entire point :|

Why doesn't Naruto have Jiraya like techniques from Moyuboku if everyone gains those techs?

What did Juugo gain that was snake like because oro said his curse mark origins are Ryuchi...
Show me a scan where Hashirama does anything to do with slugs or even talks about them...

Tsunade "founder of medical ninjutsu etc"

Hashirama didn't give f*cks about it, his cells were all he needed no slugs or anything. :|
Why is it so hard to grasp that Hashi's healing is genetic? Zetsu are Hashi's cells and posses same healing abilities yet have nothing to do with slugs and sage mode :"|:
 

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That would make slug sage mode meaningless for the likes of Tsunade & Sakura becuase their healing abitiles are already on par with Hashiarma's but I do think it would increase the speed, strength & sensory.

Without the Byakogou they would need slug SM though, and I think the reason Tsunade developed the seal is because she couldn't master SM to its full potential.

It's likely the healing feats can only be unlocked if the user masters the use of NE to the same extent as Ashura's transmigrant and a s aresult she resorted to developing the Yin seal so it could give her the same ability as Katsuyu and Hashirama.
 
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You're joking right? Hashirama's healing abilities are almost Juubi jin like :| Sakura and Tsunade healings are fodder they just resemble Hashiramas not on par

Has Hashiarma demonstrated celluar regenration? Technically he doesn't have regenerative abilities but instead a genetic healing factor and I would live for you to give me that Juubi like healing feat.

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So this is the bases of your assumptions? :sdo:
 

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Hashirama sage Mode was > all 3 :|
He could achieve in seconds
Don't associate fodder Senjutsus with Hashi. If I ask you where did Ashura get his cause He was never mentioned in Mount Moyuboku :|

Fodder Senjutsu??

Well... that's a new one i guess..
 

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You missed my entire point :|

Why doesn't Naruto have Jiraya like techniques from Moyuboku if everyone gains those techs?

What did Juugo gain that was snake like because oro said his curse mark origins are Ryuchi...
Show me a scan where Hashirama does anything to do with slugs or even talks about them...

Tsunade "founder of medical ninjutsu etc"

Hashirama didn't give f*cks about it, his cells were all he needed no slugs or anything. :|
Why is it so hard to grasp that Hashi's healing is genetic? Zetsu are Hashi's cells and posses same healing abilities yet have nothing to do with slugs and sage mode :"|:

Because he only had a few days to be taught by frog as opposed to Jiraiya who had his whole life to master frog techniques. Read the manga, he only had time to learn how to absorb NE and develop frog kata. After that he already surpassed Jiraiya and didn't need to learn any other jutsu

And Juugo didn't have SM, he comes from a clan that could absorb NE naturally but not control it. The Senjutsu chakra he had was the same level as Curse Mark chakra and nowhere near the level of Sage Mode.


You don't need a scan only common sense. Manga says there's three places you can learn to be a Sage, the frog mountain where Jiraiya and Naruto were taught, the snake cave where Orochimaru and Kabuto went and the slug forrest where Tsunade was taught.

We've only seen three type of Sage Mode users in the entire manga, Kabuto who learned from the snakes, Naruto and Jiraiya who learned from the frogs, so logically where would the third type of Sage Mode user come from ?? The Slug forrest.

Hashirama didn't need slugs to heal just like Naruto didn't need frogs to use taijutsu for him, their abilities came from the Sage Mode they learned it's simple as that. Naruto had frog kata, Kabuto had genjutsu and skin shedding while Hashirama had healing.
 

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Without the Byakogou they would need slug SM though, and I think the reason Tsunade developed the seal is because she couldn't master SM to its full potential.

It's likely the healing feats can only be unlocked if the user masters the use of NE to the same extent as Ashura's transmigrant and a s aresult she resorted to developing the Yin seal so it could give her the same ability as Katsuyu and Hashirama.
Spam theory on top of theory :| no wonder these followers of yours don't even know the difference of RSM and RS anymore :|

"and I think the reason Tsunade developed the seal is because she couldn't master SM to its full potential."


"It's likely the healing feats can only be unlocked if the user masters the use of NE to the same extent as Ashura's transmigrant and a s aresult she resorted to developing the Yin seal so it could give her the same ability as Katsuyu and Hashirama."



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So this is the bases of your assumptions? :sdo:

Tsunade and Hashirama's healing are identical, it's not assumption it's fact

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Spam theory on top of theory :| no wonder these followers of yours don't even know the difference of RSM and RS anymore :|

"and I think the reason Tsunade developed the seal is because she couldn't master SM to its full potential."


"It's likely the healing feats can only be unlocked if the user masters the use of NE to the same extent as Ashura's transmigrant and a s aresult she resorted to developing the Yin seal so it could give her the same ability as Katsuyu and Hashirama."



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So now you're denying anyone can master Sage Mode to the same level as Ashura's transmigrants. Just log out please.
 

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Because he only had a few days to be taught by frog as opposed to Jiraiya who had his whole life to master frog techniques. Read the manga, he only had time to learn how to absorb NE and develop frog kata. After that he already surpassed Jiraiya and didn't need to learn any other jutsu

And Juugo didn't have SM, he comes from a clan that could absorb NE naturally but not control it. The Senjutsu chakra he had was the same level as Curse Mark chakra and nowhere near the level of Sage Mode.


You don't need a scan only common sense. Manga says there's three places you can learn to be a Sage, the frog mountain where Jiraiya and Naruto were taught, the snake cave where Orochimaru and Kabuto went and the slug forrest where Tsunade was taught.

We've only seen three type of Sage Mode users in the entire manga, Kabuto who learned from the snakes, Naruto and Jiraiya who learned from the frogs, so logically where would the third type of Sage Mode user come from ?? The Slug forrest.

Hashirama didn't need slugs to heal just like Naruto didn't need frogs to use taijutsu for him, their abilities came from the Sage Mode they learned it's simple as that. Naruto had frog kata, Kabuto had genjutsu and skin shedding while Hashirama had healing.

This brings you to my first point where the f*ck did Ashura learn his if your logic is of "math.sort" ones?

Jugo classified by DATABOOK as a sage
"However, amazed by Jūgo's ability to absorb natural energy to undergo various drastic physical alterations at the cost of mental state, Orochimaru's attempts to discover the origin of his clan's ability to use such power led him to the Ryūchi Cave, where he learned Sage Mode. But unable to use Sage Mode properly, Orochimaru instead devised the cursed seals by combining his Senjutsu chakra into the mutative enzymes he isolated from Jūgo's blood. "
 
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