Why do people like Tsunade but hate Sakura?

[Sageflash]

I disliked her from jump street because of how she treated my boy, but the minute she offered to leave the Leaf with Sasuke, she became irredeemable in my eyes. She's your average dime-a-dozen thottie. She has no story to get to attached to either. All of her relevance (or lack thereof) is merely based on the luck she got placed with in a team with Naruto and Sasuke.

Tsunade had maybe half of that screen time, and impacted the plot more meaningfully several times over. Interchange Sakura with a cardboard cutout, and the story is 99% the same. It would actually improve because the many panels spent drawing her tears would replaced with something visually appealing.

 

[super michael]

Naruto and Sasuke are not the only chars in this manga, and let's not forget they had more time to shine in battles than Sakura.

Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are the only characters to get trained by a sannin so they should surpass their sannin masters. Sasuke in his first battle against Team 7 he showed how much progress he had and even shown skills that no one has.

Naruto only skill at the beginning was Oodama Rasengan, but he trained to develop new unique skills which no one has.

Sakura didn't train anything to surpass Tsunade in anyway.

 

[Joshutsu]

Could be anyway Hinata rules

Byakugan Princess FTW

When you say those things with that profile pic. I just want you to know it does not help your case with me LMAO

I just imagine all of you with the same face as Hinata when she was about to fight Deva when you spout nonsense about her.

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Most people who use Tsunade against Sakura don't like Tsunade but she is a good tool to use to downgrade Sakura regarding speculation around surpassing and accomplishment which doesn't hold much water in both cases.

 

[Joshutsu]

Naruto and Sasuke are not the only chars in this manga, and let's not forget they had more time to shine in battles than Sakura.

People don't like to remember that Sakura matches Tsunade and has Genjutsu abilities that exceed Tsunade by hype and she has more feats in it.

Was able to match a woman as a much younger age that she became her current self ability wise.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

People don't like to remember that Sakura matches Tsunade and has Genjutsu abilities that exceed Tsunade by hype and she has more feats in it.

Was able to match a woman as a much younger age that she became her current self ability wise.

Yeah she can do what Tsunade taught her, beyond that she doesn't have any technique which she can claim as her own.

 

[Joshutsu]

Yeah she can do what Tsunade taught her, beyond that she doesn't have any technique which she can claim as her own.

But she has a natural genjutsu affinity which Tsunade does not have or ever been hinted to. Even kakashi said that her being a genjutsu type would tilt back in early part 2.

Doesn't matter if she never casts them it's an edge when they stand side by side. BPD there's nothing else she can do offensively that Sakura cannot really.

I'm not addressing anything trying to prove she invented some new jutsu because she clearly had not to the point of the end of the series but she does have things unique to herself that are valuable skills.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

"Why do people like Minato but hate Akamaru?"

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

I got 2 big reasons why

 

[super michael]

But she has a natural genjutsu affinity which Tsunade does not have or ever been hinted to. Even kakashi said that her being a genjutsu type would tilt back in early part 2.

Doesn't matter if she never casts them it's an edge when they stand side by side. BPD there's nothing else she can do offensively that Sakura cannot really.

I'm not addressing anything trying to prove she invented some new jutsu because she clearly had not to the point of the end of the series but she does have things unique to herself that are valuable skills.

Tsunade can scramble Sakura nerves, something that Sakura never learned to do. Sakura may have a genjutsu affinity but it is useless if she doesn't learn to use genjutsu. It is like Naruto before his affinity was fuuton, but it was useless unless he trained, which he did so he can use fuuton.

Sakura only use CES for single punch, while Tsunade uses CES for multiple punches making a combo. Tsunade showed this skill against Orochimaru in part 1.

 

[Joshutsu]

Tsunade can scramble Sakura nerves, something that Sakura never learned to do. Sakura may have a genjutsu affinity but it is useless if she doesn't learn to use genjutsu. It is like Naruto before his affinity was fuuton, but it was useless unless he trained, which he did so he can use fuuton.

Sakura only use CES for single punch, while Tsunade uses CES for multiple punches making a combo. Tsunade showed this skill against Orochimaru in part 1.

This is NOT a vs section. I am assessing two ninja against each other and if they face off against an opponent Sakura has an edge over her if they use genjutsu and that's not debatable.

Also I hope you realize BPD is the technique abbreviation for your 'nerve scrambling reference'

BPD is a close range attack so if Tsunade can manage to pull that off on an opponent close range, Sakura who has better cannon speed and strength feats can just use CES on them.

 

[Horus]

Tsunade can scramble Sakura nerves, something that Sakura never learned to do. Sakura may have a genjutsu affinity but it is useless if she doesn't learn to use genjutsu. It is like Naruto before his affinity was fuuton, but it was useless unless he trained, which he did so he can use fuuton.

Sakura only use CES for single punch, while Tsunade uses CES for multiple punches making a combo. Tsunade showed this skill against Orochimaru in part 1.

Thing is though, Tsunade only punched Orochimaru once and he ran away.
The anime showed her punching him several times though.

@Joshtsu, and exactly how would Sakura win against Tsunade? The woman with more reserves, more durability, more stamina? Deadly medical ninjutsu?

Edit: Actually lets not turn this into a VS thread lol

 

[Joshutsu]

Thing is though, Tsunade only punched Orochimaru once and he ran away.
The anime showed her punching him several times though.

@Joshtsu, and exactly how would Sakura win against Tsunade? The woman with more reserves, more durability, more stamina? Deadly medical ninjutsu?

Edit: Actually lets not turn this into a VS thread lol

Thanks for fixing your post, it's not a vs thread i'm looking at their skills overall and Sakura by manga feats is better than her by the near end of war arc offensively. a 50+ yr old is not keeping up with her stamina wise, especially one that is highlighted by Sakura herself to be held back by using chakra to remain youthful.

Sakura also knows all of her offensive abilities we have seen besides one. Because there aren't much.

Hype does not matter to me in a battle of feats so I apologize if you would like to use that but it does not mean anything when we don't see it.

I won't repeat my last post because it's right there. But yeah basically my previous post.

Tsunade is my fav but Sakura surpassed her and i'm okay with that because she's also one of my favs haha

 

[super michael]

Thing is though, Tsunade only punched Orochimaru once and he ran away.
The anime showed her punching him several times though.

Thanks for point that out, I guess that was a filler scene, then I have no idea if she ever did combo hit with her CES.

@Joshutsu I wasn't aware the technique was called BPD thanks for letting me know.

 

[Team7monaa]

Sakura has shown us better chakra control, better speed feats and her destructive ability is higher than Tsunade. Also Tsunade is pretty old now, and Sakura has to have surpassed her.

 

[Joshutsu]

Thanks for point that out, I guess that was a filler arc, then I have no idea if she ever did combo hit with her CES.

@Joshutsu I wasn't aware the technique was called BPD thanks for letting me know.

She never has in cannon done a combo hit with her CES, it's not their thing it's very one punch oriented. And No problem!

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

But she has a natural genjutsu affinity which Tsunade does not have or ever been hinted to. Even kakashi said that her being a genjutsu type would tilt back in early part 2.

Doesn't matter if she never casts them it's an edge when they stand side by side. BPD there's nothing else she can do offensively that Sakura cannot really.

I'm not addressing anything trying to prove she invented some new jutsu because she clearly had not to the point of the end of the series but she does have things unique to herself that are valuable skills.

I agree with Super Michael here.
And her genjutsu immunity is related to her chakra control if I remember it correctly and Tsunade too has equal if not better chakra control than Sakura so she too should have some immunity to genjutsu plus she's a f*** Sannin so she'd have at least some knowledge on how to deal with genjutsu.
Overall, even if by some chance Sakura has better genjutsu immunity doesn't make her superior to Tsunade. Tsunade invented most of the techniques she taught Sakura and I am sure she knows the weaknesses of the techniques which she created far better than Sakura could ever hope to know.

This is NOT a vs section. I am assessing two ninja against each other and if they face off against an opponent Sakura has an edge over her if they use genjutsu and that's not debatable.

Also I hope you realize BPD is the technique abbreviation for your 'nerve scrambling reference'

BPD is a close range attack so if Tsunade can manage to pull that off on an opponent close range, Sakura who has better cannon speed and strength feats can just use CES on them.

Sakura doesn't have better strength feat and which speed feat are you referring to?

 

[Belserion]

I agree with Super Michael here.
And her genjutsu immunity is related to her chakra control if I remember it correctly and Tsunade too has equal if not better chakra control than Sakura so she too should have some immunity to genjutsu plus she's a f*** Sannin so she'd have at least some knowledge on how to deal with genjutsu.
Overall, even if by some chance Sakura has better genjutsu immunity doesn't make her superior to Tsunade. Tsunade invented most of the techniques she taught Sakura and I am sure she knows the weaknesses of the techniques which she created far better than Sakura could ever hope to know.



Sakura doesn't have better strength feat and which speed feat are you referring to?

If anything Tsunade has better speed feats by far. Lol

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

If anything Tsunade has better speed feats by far. Lol

Agreed and Hashirama's statement never confirmed Sakura's strength feat either.

 

[Belserion]

Agreed and Hashirama's statement never confirmed Sakura's strength feat either.

He was comparing Sakura to a MUNCH younger Tsunade who wasn't older than 10.

How people argue for Sakura being faster than Tsunade is beyond me.
Tsunade actually managed to keep up her speed with Ay.

Mei saves Tsunade from Madara's Katon and shoots him high in the air.

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The Raikage with his buffed Raiton Armor by Ohnoki hits Madara and not a second after Tsunade landed a kick on his Susano'o.

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[Darth AniCetuS]

He was comparing Sakura to a MUNCH younger Tsunade who wasn't older than 10.

How people argue for Sakura being faster than Tsunade is beyond me.
Tsunade actually managed to keep up her speed with Ay.

Mei saves Tsunade from Madara's Katon and shoots him high in the air.

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The Raikage with his buffed Raiton Armor by Ohnoki hits Madara and not a second after Tsunade landed a kick on his Susano'o.

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@Bold Exactly and he never said it was greater than Tsunade's for sure.

As for speed feats they love to throw that scan of Sakura dodging the Juubi's hand. But if she was running faster than it then why did she need saving the next panel by Kakashi? She should've been able to dodge it a second time considering the hands movement were the same.