Why didn't Orochimaru use Edo Tensei for himself?

[HiddenSound]

and what makes you think oro could do that? Madara is on a completely different level.

I could be wrong, but I think all you have to do as an Edo to release yourself would be to know the hand signs. Orochimaru obviously knows the hand signs.

 

[Takos]

and what makes you think oro could do that? Madara is on a completely different level.

Madara said one only needs to know the proper seal to get free form Edo, so I don't think it's a matter of power.

orochimaru had no idea that Kabuto could use that jutsu...Kabuto only developed it after he got some of Oro's chakra...

True, but I'm sure if Oro wanted to do that, he would at least try to teach Kabuto Edo and he didn't.

I could be wrong, but I think all you have to do as an Edo to release yourself would be to know the hand signs. Orochimaru obviously knows the hand signs.

^This, but if Oro didn't know about this trick, he wouldn't try using any seals.

 

[shanee]

and what makes you think oro could do that? Madara is on a completely different level.

oro perfected the jutsu. and to make maters even better, madara shouldn't know about the edo tense. it was the 2nd hokages jutsu and although madara was alive when the 2nd was alive, he dies short after. i doubt the 2nd learned edo tense in that time period. and i doubt the 2nd told him the secretes to it.

 

[orochimaru]

Madara said one only needs to know the proper seal to get free form Edo, so I don't think it's a matter of power.



True, but I'm sure if Oro wanted to do that, he would at least try to teach Kabuto Edo and he didn't.




^This, but if Oro didn't know about this trick, he wouldn't try using any seals.

Kabuto has a ****ed up personality,,,and Oro knows him too well to let him control his destiny...he took matters into his own hands just to be safe...he spent his life studying jutsu so he can't throw all that under the mercy of a Devil! It takes one to know one!

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Agreed

 

[AmaniPaz]

Plot no jutsu? Also they may not have known how.

 

[Takos]

Now I think of another reason. Orochimaru wanted to get a Sharingan all this time. If he became Edo zombie, I think he wouldn't be able to get it anymore.

Still, Orochimaru's body changing jutsu lasts for three years only. So even if he got a Sharingan, he would lose it after three years. Am I wrong?

 

[Nagato Rattengift]

Maybe that seals only can be used when edo tensei is being cancelled, that explains why Madara didn't used them before.

 

[Knightuchiha]

oro perfected the jutsu. and to make maters even better, madara shouldn't know about the edo tense. it was the 2nd hokages jutsu and although madara was alive when the 2nd was alive, he dies short after. i doubt the 2nd learned edo tense in that time period. and i doubt the 2nd told him the secretes to it.

there is so much wrong with this statement.... first off, kabuto perfected the jutsu, not oro. second, how do you know when the second hokage invented the jutsu? third, madara has this thing called the sharingan, its kind of famous for copying things like hand seals. all he would have to do is see tobirama use it once (which would have been very possible since the clans met in bttle several times)

 

[Takos]

there is so much wrong with this statement.... first off, kabuto perfected the jutsu, not oro. second, how do you know when the second hokage invented the jutsu? third, madara has this thing called the sharingan, its kind of famous for copying things like hand seals. all he would have to do is see tobirama use it once (which would have been very possible since the clans met in bttle several times)

But Tobirama was never Edo zombie and it's Edo zombie that needs to use these seals to get free. Therefore, if Madara copied it, he definitely didn't from second Hokage.

 

[NOemotions]

He has Curse marks for that, but edo tensei should work just fine too.. dunno lol.

 

[Knightuchiha]

But Tobirama was never Edo zombie and it's Edo zombie that needs to use these seals to get free. Therefore, if Madara copied it, he definitely didn't from second Hokage.

its probably the same seal thet the user uses to release the edos

 

[NaruGoku]

I have actually thought about this too and thought Oro should have/could have done it. but what i thought was that he either didn't actually know about the loophole which allows one to break the contract and live eternally, or perhaps it's because he wouldn't be able to gather all the jutsu in the world because he wouldn't be body-hopping. and if he continued to body hop, it would negate the whole purpose of being revived via edo tensei because the bodies he jumps to will not be immortal. when he takes over a body, it means leaving the previous body behind. and to get Kekkei Genkai techs he has to actually take over the KG body so he'd be leaving behind the immortal body--but since his soul is technically immortal anyways because he can live on in other bodies, there's really no point in acquiring one single immortal body.
that may have been confusing so i'll try and re-state it.

1. He'd be immortal anyways through body jumping, so there's no need for Edo Tensei

2. His ambition is to acquire every jutsu ever possible, but to get Kekkei Genkai techs he needs to take over the Kekkei Genkai body, leaving his previous body behind, meaning there's no point in having 1 single immortal body when he'll be constantly changing bodies anyways to gather up all the techs while also living on forever

3. Edo Tensei bodies can be stopped by sealing them, and sealing super powerful guys is much easier than straight up defeating them in a fight to the death. And, if he was sealed, he'd still be "alive" but sealed away for eternity and can you imagine how terrible that'd be? even Oro couldn't withstand the mental mind f*** of eternal immobility and isolation. So ironically Oro has a much better chance surviving by having to fight to the death and people having to kill him to get rid of him.

BUT, having said all that, unless he knows another way to come back to life, i would think he would have a very, very trusted underling learn ET just in case Oro dies and his underling could bring him back to life. He would still end up leaving behind the immortal body, but the point would be that he was alive again.

THEN again, it would be unwise for Oro to teach ET to anyone no matter how much he trusts them, because with that tech they could scheme on him and destroy him. After all, if you just give a guy hella power, you can't expect him to just not use it. especially the types of people who would work for Oro--they're backstabbers, every one of them

SO there are many things to think about and many pros and cons to sift through so it really isn't as simple as "oh i think i'll teach it to Kabuto, kill myself, and have him bring me back" there's much more to it than that.

ON the other hand, if sasuke/sharingan is his final goal body-wise, maybe he would wait til he had Sasuke's body and the sharingan, then he'd kill himself and have his underling bring him back so he'd have Sasuke's immortal body. Who knows, maybe that's what he was planning from the beginning?

so yeah, my whole point is that it's not so simple

 

[Takos]

its probably the same seal thet the user uses to release the edos

I don't think so. Releasing Edo causes Edo Zombies to be destroyed, Madara's seal just makes the guy free from Edo.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Orochimaru probably didn't know the jutsu that Madara used. After all, if Orochimaru had known about it, Kabuto probably would have known about it as well, but Kabuto clearly didn't forsee this.

This.


Kabuto had no idea that an Edo could release himself, or he never would have given them free will to any degree. And if Kabuto didn't know, Orochimaru probably didnt know either.

 

[MaxM305]

orochimaru had no idea that Kabuto could use that jutsu...Kabuto only developed it after he got some of Oro's chakra...besides orochimaru is not careless to let someone use such a terrifying jutsu...it could backfire!

agreed

 

[grenwood]

and what makes you think oro could do that? Madara is on a completely different level.

not if he released the jutsu like madara

what makes you guys think that kabuto would even revive oro?
that is the one fear that wouldve kept oro from doing this.

 

[Takos]

what makes you guys think that kabuto would even revive oro?
that is the one fear that wouldve kept oro from doing this.

Because Kabuto was very loyal to Orochimaru and Oro knew it.

 

[Daka]

orochimaru had no idea that Kabuto could use that jutsu...Kabuto only developed it after he got some of Oro's chakra...besides orochimaru is not careless to let someone use such a terrifying jutsu...it could backfire!

Correct

 

[KevinPJH]

Rochi might do it now.