Now your just trumping around, did he fight the Boulder? Was he not clear until he went back to save kakashi? Nuff said, I’m just pointing out the obvious difference in his ability before and after the sharingan, which luckily enough considering the thread, shows him from being fodderized by a higher ranking normal nin, to fodderizing them, damn, that helped prove 2 of my pointsWell he was up to two tomoes and it helped him dodge an attack he did get ko'd by boulders so it can't be said that he was really exceptional