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and wasn't godly nagato was implanted rennigan by madara without knowledge or wasn't mito;kushina and naruto made jins of kyuubi and were't karin exahausted after healing sasuke Kage summit

i don't really understand what you mean,but if you mean that nagato had both rinnegan because of madara than you know very well that's Bs because Obito spend a lot of time with madara he even thought him everything he needs to know about the rinnegan and other stuff,while Nagato didn't have that chance. his Uzumaki blood made up for it.
 

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The Uchiha always lost to the Senju in the past. Senju and Uchiha are the 2 strongest clans. #Mangaphax

It's not because of being a reincarnation that make them strong.

Hashirama and Madara were gifted and very strong from their childhood. Madara was able to kill experienced Senju even before awakening his Sharingan, while Hashirama was always stronger than him from the start.

When looking at this generation of reincarnation particularly Naruto, unlike Hashirama, he was a fodder before learning Sage Mode, and his power source after that is mainly Kurama. While Hashirama was born naturally gifted.

Ashura and Indra don't boost the power of their reincarnation it seems.
 
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i don't really understand what you mean,but if you mean that nagato had both rinnegan because of madara than you know very well that's Bs because Obito spend a lot of time with madara he even thought him everything he needs to know about the rinnegan and other stuff,while Nagato didn't have that chance. his Uzumaki blood made up for it.

u dpn't understand in ch 675 obito stated he couldn't implant both rennigans.
only person who was able to do so currently is maddy.
So u do think how kakashi learnt kamui.
And also obito sided with nagato so he can teach him few tricks.
The only times nagato used Rennigen before allying with obito to some potential when he was very angry not that he was knowing stuffs about it
 

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The Uchiha always lost to the Senju in the past. Senju and Uchiha are the 2 strongest clans.

It's not because of being a reincarnation that make them strong.

Hashirama and Madara were gifted and very strong from their childhood. Madara was able to kill experienced Senju even before awakening his Sharingan, while Hashirama was always stronger than him from the start.

When looking at this generation of reincarnation particularly Naruto, unlike Hashirama, he was a fodder when he was a kid, and his power source is mainly Kurama. While Hashirama was born naturally gifted.

Ashura and Indra don't boost the power of their reincarnation it seems.
The power of incarnation ionly helped now!
 

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Nothing Naruto has is Uzumaki related, Anyone with control of 9 Bijuu's would wreck Hashirama doesn't change the fact his clan is #1 tho

^^^^^^^this
you can't come up with thinks like nagato or naruto represents the uzumakis power because they used non uzumaki powers.
While we have seen Hashirama who suddenly used mokuton while nobody else couldn't and it wasn't thanks to ashura because he couldn't use mokuton either.
 

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Show me a uzumaki that can tank Tobirama

The Uzukage that is shown to look like Naruto. He demonstrated His abilities to Seal any to Hashi His sealing powers and send Mito to the village to keep Kurama safe something Tobirama can't do. Why do you think an Alliance was form for?
 

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Yet in the manga it specifically states Uchiha and senju creates the rinnegan.

Nowhere does it state uzamaki is correlated to anything partaking into the sage's power.

Obito with one eye was able to use the Justus on a way higher scale than Nagato.

You think Nagato can control Gedo mazou and all those bijuus like that?

He would die easily...

Senju>>>>uzamaki

The two senju's we've seen pretty much makes all the uzamaki look like knock offs.

Only 1 full blooded uzamaki has been shown fighting, and it was a borrowed power that he used.
 

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Show me a uzumaki that can tank Tobirama

naruto, nagato

mito solos hashirma in bed
Karin soloed a Buddha statue, well almost
Kushina used to solo minato in bedroom

uzumakis are royalty, uchihas are badass. senju's are nothing compared to those two clans.
 
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dumbass you didn't read the thread! Naruto excluded Nagato can't tank Tobirama!

Are you joking? Tobirama has no counter to Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Gedo Mazo. Nagato will destroy Tobirama in a battle
 

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Yet in the manga it specifically states Uchiha and senju creates the rinnegan.

Nowhere does it state uzamaki is correlated to anything partaking into the sage's power.

Obito with one eye was able to use the Justus on a way higher scale than Nagato.

You think Nagato can control Gedo mazou and all those bijuus like that?

He would die easily...

Senju>>>>uzamaki

The two senju's we've seen pretty much makes all the uzamaki look like knock offs.

Only 1 full blooded uzamaki has been shown fighting, and it was a borrowed power that he used.

Power is power no matter how it comes.

1. uzumaki is a clan of members not just nagato.
2. you either don't read manga or ignore manga facts.

Naruto and Nagato > any senju

Rinnegan users solos all with gedo mazo summoned
 

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naruto, nagato

[spoilers]mito solos hashirma in bed[/spoilers]

uzmakis are royalty, uchihas are badass. senju's are nothing compared to those two clans.
Lmao the spoilers hahahahaha and I agree with you
 

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senjus are stronger than uzumakis
it takes naruto an uzumaki all of kurama's yang to be on par with hashi
senjus have the potential to awaken the bodily chakra while uzumakis dont
the have life-force but can't awaken the bodily chakra anymore
 

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There's an argument to be made that the Uzumaki are greater than the Senju, though not necessarily in the ways we'd all perceived. We know that the Uzumaki, as a clan, all inherited incredible vitality and longevity from Hagoromo's lineage. We know they excelled in fūinjutsu. We can assume that they kept to themselves given how they had entire island to themselves.

The Senju, like the Uzumaki, inherited strong bodies from the Sage. Hashirama is something of an outlier though as his Mokuton ability is unique to him alone amongst the Senju. We can surmise that the Senju excelled in direct combat. The Senju lived in the elemental nations and were mobilised against the Uchiha at every turn, i.e. they were the obvious choice to use against the Uchiha, unlike the Uzumaki who simply kept to themselves (probably).

When it comes down to which clan was stronger, I suppose when it comes down to pure military strength that the Senju were stronger seeing as they were a war clan. When it comes to individuals, however, members of the Uzumaki clan have them beat. Naruto could take Hashirama and Tobirama to school, by himself, at the same damn time.
 

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senjus are stronger than uzumakis
it takes naruto an uzumaki all of kurama's yang to be on par with hashi
senjus have the potential to awaken the bodily chakra while uzumakis dont
the have life-force but can't awaken the bodily chakra anymore


Hashirama was ashuras reincarnation. now same goes for naruto.
Who is stronger at the moment!! Naruto > Hashirama and Tobirama togather
 
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