Tobirama's death

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I just can't deal with the fact that seven of them: Tobirama (Hokage level) , Hiruzen (Hokage level) , Danzo,one Uchiha,one member of the Akimichi clan,and those two Hiruzen's team comrades coudn't take out 20 Mist shinobi.

I think that Tobirama alone should have destroyed them,and no to mention all of them together


Even Obito,when he awekaned his MS,humiliated 20+ Mist jounins.


Or maybe Kishi just wanted to give him a heroic dead,and he didn't know how to do it any other way? What do you think?
 

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Maybe these 20 "master" bounty hunter fodders are really strong, But Tobirama's death was a plot device for hiruzen to be the next hokage.
 

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Lmfao, Tobirama is fodder.
 

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I don't even like Tobirama, but I agree.
He should've killed them low diff.
 

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Think it was more like there was an excuse needed for Tobirama to step down and Hiruzen to be appointed as Hokage for plot development. Same question could be asked about Hashirama's death.
 

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I just can't deal with the fact that seven of them: Tobirama (Hokage level) , Hiruzen (Hokage level) , Danzo,one Uchiha,one member of the Akimichi clan,and those two Hiruzen's team comrades coudn't take out 20 Mist shinobi.

I think that Tobirama alone should have destroyed them,and no to mention all of them together


Even Obito,when he awekaned his MS,humiliated 20+ Mist jounins.


Or maybe Kishi just wanted to give him a heroic dead,and he didn't know how to do it any other way? What do you think?

dont use obtio....his thing was out of rage its totally different....them uchihas run of hatred for power and whatnot....but i also feel like there is more to that that we dont know about but something was preventing them from beating them ninjas at the time and so tobi died
 

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Even things with Hashirama are unexplained.

A person who was ahead of everyone at his time,who could deal with Madara at any given moment,died in a war by the hand of some fodder

Come on... Kishi really likes to leave some hools in his story
 

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Tobirama may have the power, but he's a fodder in terms of intellect

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OT: Heroic death.

A better translation is elite, rather than master; that itself puts them on Kakashi's level of skill and how many shinobi - who have already expended energy in previous battles, can stand up to that?

Besides, Kiri nin are weak anyway.

Oh, and ignore "itachi4life", he's an irate hater who has been copying and pasting the same thing on all Tobirama-related threads. Can't handle that Madara is a pair of dead legs whilst Tobirama is spreading the Word of $wag.
 
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OT: Heroic death.

A better translation is elite, rather than master; that itself puts them on Kakashi's level of skill and how many shinobi - who have already expended energy in previous battles, can stand up to that?

Besides, Kiri nin are weak anyway.


I don't think they had such a arsenal of strong ninjas,like 20 Kakashi level shinobi

They must have been a little weaker than that
 

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you know that was the kinkaku and ginkaku squad right? with the kyuubicloak and all those famous weapons..
 

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They were all very young. Hiruzen had most likely hundreds of jutsus yet to master, Danzo was definetly not the same we knew during the summit, one Uchiha and one Akimichi are worth what they're worth and Hiruzen's comrades were surely no better than Danzo.
Tobirama couldn't afford having any of the youngster killed, he sacrificed himself to ensure the future of the village.

You mention Obito and the MS like those are some random powers any fodder in the narutoverse has.
Obito murdered like a dozen of random Kiri Anbu with Mokuton and Kamui while he was enraged. Tobirama's group knew they were being tracked by a special team of at least twenty elite shinobi but had virtually no idea what was coming for them.
Would you go against team made up of the best trackers w/o knowing nothing about them and risks the lives of the rest of your team (comprised of a bunch of kids) and consequently your village?
 
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I bet they had a mirror and he spotted himself and checked himself out.
The rest is just sad.
 

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Tobirama may have the power, but he's a fodder in terms of intellect

wtf"?!!! fodder in term of intellect ?!!! :what: do you even watch naruto ?


OT: they were elite ninjas -- the same level as Anbu Kakashi ... and hiruzen , danzo and the rest were fodders at that time ...

that part was made only to show the greatness of Tobirama .. and his superb intelligence ... he chose the best hokage .. "the one who sacrifices " .... and there probably were ginkaku kinkaku brothers with 9tails power ...


put it simple ::: 1hokage vs 2 kage level guys, 3 god tools , Kyubi power , and 20 elite ninjas .
 

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OT: Heroic death.

A better translation is elite, rather than master; that itself puts them on Kakashi's level of skill and how many shinobi - who have already expended energy in previous battles, can stand up to that?

Besides, Kiri nin are weak anyway.

Oh, and ignore "itachi4life", he's an irate hater who has been copying and pasting the same thing on all Tobirama-related threads. Can't handle that Madara is a pair of dead legs whilst Tobirama is spreading the Word of $wag.

Lmfao , Madara isn't dead. And remind me again, is Tobirama alive?
 

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I see couple of members saying that they were from the Hidden Mist, when actually they were from the Hidden Cloud. . . hmm

Tobirama may have the power, but he's a fodder in terms of intellect

:| . . . that's where you got it all wrong. . . it's like you have barely read Naruto.

you know that was the kinkaku and ginkaku squad right? with the kyuubicloak and all those famous weapons..

No, it was never cleared that it was them or not.

Lmfao , Madara isn't dead. And remind me again, is Tobirama alive?

. . . :| . . . . . . . . . :erm: . . .
 
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stop bashing me for my opinion, people.
it's a fact that tobirama failed to accomplish anything. he's them most controversial kage ever
 

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He died a fodder death to be honest. No way he should've lost to 20 ninja, especially with Danzo, Hiruzen, Kagami and the rest of his team there. 2 Hokage level + another 4 or 5 Jonin should've taken them. And he had FTG and Edo Tensei on his side, yeah I'm not buying it. Are you telling me he wasn't smart enough to teleport all of them back to konoha?

And it's still unclear if Kinkaku and Ginkaku were even there or if it was just the squad.
 
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