the uchihas arguement doesnt make sense

[Calm Down]

how about you read the manga? hashirama stomped madara then spared his life. in the vote fight hashirama still won even though madara had the nine tails help.

You know it, everything was perfectly planned out... don't try to escape the fact

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Madara didn't want the title and he never planned to win anyway. He just wanted his dna and fake his death so the whole world can stop thinking about him while he work on his master plan. But lets be real, Madara love a challenge in a battle. If he really wanted to, he could've kill the 1st hokage. Shit if he knew that tobirma was going to kill his brother, he would've went all out and kill hashirama and tobirma on the spot with a clear mind. But he didn't, because he thought it was going to be like all the other battles. fight til tired, then retreat. He never thought that tobirma would go for the kill.

Yes Hashirama is stronger than Madara, but Madara is way smarter than Hashirama. It not always the strongest one that win the battle!

madara got fodderized by hashirama and owned him with a bunshin feint. madara planned to sacrifice an ems for what?

 

[Nagi]

how about you read the manga? hashirama stomped madara then spared his life. in the vote fight hashirama still won even though madara had the nine tails help.

Madara fought the whole ****ing senji clan BY HIMSELF! Stomped is a strong word my friend! Madara laid down on his back after being tired of fighting. So really Hashirama didn't stomp nobody!

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

You know it, everything was perfectly planned out... don't try to escape the fact

he didnt plan shit he just got whooped if he planned everything out then how did zetsu oneshot him? if he didnt really want ot win why did he bring ninetails?

 

[Nagi]

madara got fodderized by hashirama and owned him with a bunshin feint. madara planned to sacrifice an ems for what?

Dude, go read the manga. You're trolling right now.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Madara fought the whole ****ing senji clan BY HIMSELF! Stomped is a strong word my friend! Madara laid down on his back after being tired of fighting. So really Hashirama didn't stomp nobody!

STOMPED he got laid the hell out he wasnt alone either there entire uchiha clan was there you even see their dead bodies tf are you talking about?

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Dude, go read the manga. You're trolling right now.

imma make a thread just for you two denying madara fappers.

 

[Nagi]

STOMPED he got laid the hell out he wasnt alone either there entire uchiha clan was there you even see their dead bodies tf are you talking about?

2 weak uchiha was there son! They ain't shit compare to the whole senji clan. The first hokage said it! After 24 hours, for the first time everrrrrr, madara laid down on his back!

 

[Nagi]

imma make a thread just for you two denying madara fappers.

do it! Somebody going to throw manga facts at you!

 

[Styles]

1 Of many noble clans was moved to the outskirts of the village and put under constant survalence accused of something they didn't do lost nearly all their political power who wouldn't do a coup?

 

[MinaButt]

1 Of many noble clans was moved to the outskirts of the village and put under constant survalence accused of something they didn't do lost nearly all their political power who wouldn't do a coup?

This^
OP: Would you be ok with this if it happened to your family/clan?

 

[AlphaScythian]

They were suspected for kyuubi attack and spied on. They were devoted to the village but distrusted due to their power.
Being a police force made it worse. Usually police is hated by population worldwide.
And how about they were moved outside the village into former prison?

All above is not the way to treat konoha co founders and why isnt kagami among the elders?

 

[closecombat1254]

Not getting to become the hokage who deserves the throne is equal to getting kicked out.

That's that uchia logic hash was stronger smarter and well liked