The problem with Naruto villains

[ministerC4]

kaguya is a real villian she wants an army

She's like a side villain that helps the true enemy, ya know like a dictator and his army's commander.
The commander being Kaguya and the dictator Black Zetsu, I mean what foul thing have we seen Kaguya do yet besides cry?
Yes I know she used IT and all, but really she has like nothing to develop her background as a villain but a few words thrown out by Black Zetsu and The Sage.


Thats like basing a villain on lore and saying they're the worst villain out there. Example,
I send out a toy to the floor and then decide to say it had killed many people, then call an actual hero to stomp the toy..

 

[Antichrist]

I guess Kishi should have at least had one major villain in his story stay a villain till the bitter end.

Madara still didn't turn to the other side like Obito Garra Nagato .....etc .

 

[ministerC4]

Madara still didn't turn to the other side like Obito Garra Nagato .....etc .

Madara can't even be called a villain...

 

[Conspirator.]

kaguya is a real villian she wants an army

In b4 Kaguya did all this because her *** partner died.

 

[ArianitAlbanian]

Madara still didn't turn to the other side like Obito Garra Nagato .....etc .

He will
He is good at heart

 

[ArianitAlbanian]

In b4 Kaguya did all this because her *** partner died.

the ramen guy didnt die

Blasphemy :|

 

[Antichrist]

Kaguya is the real Villain here. Everybody were just being used.

Kaguya is being controlled by BZ U_U

 

[MAN OF SIN]

she is lame
Even thought she is a real villain Im not excited about her because she got introduced 15 chapters ago

She's the ten tails, so she's been introduced well further than that. Also, foreshadowed here.

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Complete form=Kaguya.

She's like a side villain that helps the true enemy, ya know like a dictator and his army's commander.
The commander being Kaguya and the dictator Black Zetsu, I mean what foul thing have we seen Kaguya do yet besides cry?
Yes I know she used IT and all, but really she has like nothing to develop her background as a villain but a few words thrown out by Black Zetsu and The Sage.


Thats like basing a villain on lore and saying they're the worst villain out there. Example,
I send out a toy to the floor and then decide to say it had killed many people, then call an actual hero to stomp the toy..

She did had a hand in killing Neji, Ino's father, and Shikimaru's father. Countless of fodders.

Madara can't even be called a villain...

He cut Tsunade in half for no reason, dude.

 

[The Invincible Ninja God]

Ok so the problem with Naruto villains is that all of them want the same thing peace.
Its not a bad thing but if we have a villain who wants peace and he gets defeated (turns good) and another villain appears and he wants the same thing, we just dont feel any excitement anymore, because the next villain is just a copy of the previous villain (the case with Obito and Madara).

How is this different from any other Manga to a point that you have to specifically single out Naruto?

What do Major villains in Bleach want? What to the ones in Dbz want? What about FMA? Inuyasha? Rosario+Vampire? Fairy-tail?

generally the villains in a particular story work towards the same/similar goals. Why put Naruto on blast? Are you hating on the idea of a character having the capacity to go beyond hurr durr i want to rule/destroy the word?

 

[Jayy]

Ok so the problem with Naruto villains is that all of them want the same thing peace.
Its not a bad thing but if we have a villain who wants peace and he gets defeated (turns good) and another villain appears and he wants the same thing, we just dont feel any excitement anymore, because the next villain is just a copy of the previous villain (the case with Obito and Madara).

This is why I enjoy Kaguya, she is a villain who wants to enslave humanity and turn them all into a personal army. She doesn't want peace she wants to take back whatever she lost, that is not peace but instead evil selfishness... She is a proper villain, but we need more of her backstory, I want to see some cold killing

 

[The Invincible Ninja God]

she is lame
Even thought she is a real villain Im not excited about her because she got introduced 15 chapters ago

oooh! did you think of that all on your own?

 

[MAN OF SIN]

This is why I enjoy Kaguya, she is a villain who wants to enslave humanity and turn them all into a personal army. She doesn't want peace she wants to take back whatever she lost, that is not peace but instead evil selfishness... She is a proper villain, but we need more of her backstory, I want to see some cold killing

I think she is going to be an anti-villain.

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[Shinato]

What is the point if all the villains in a series want exactly the same thing

Orochimaru never wanted peace, neither did Deidara,Sasori,Hidan,Kakuzu or a good amount of other villains in the series. Besides, the entire point of the manga is to showcase people striving for the same thing, but through different methods in the search for the "right" way to gain peace.

 

[ministerC4]

Orochimaru never wanted peace, neither did Deidara,Sasori,Hidan,Kakuzu or a good amount of other villains in the series. Besides, the entire point of the manga is to showcase people striving for the same thing, but through different methods in the search for the "right" way to gain peace.

Those villains we're like hit and run. you saw them once and they never came back.

The villains we speak of are major, pain was sending them all out, that was his value, he actually affected something anyone cares about.
Madara has been one of the few to pose an actual threat and last 10 pages.
And really those named didn't really have any effect...
Death of a fodder=IDGAF

 

[Cael]

Those villains we're like hit and run. you saw them once and they never came back.

that's because they all dead.

 

[Cornballs227]

For every dark shadow there is a light around the corner.

 

[evilmayo]

Ok so the problem with Naruto villains is that all of them want the same thing peace.
Its not a bad thing but if we have a villain who wants peace and he gets defeated (turns good) and another villain appears and he wants the same thing, we just dont feel any excitement anymore, because the next villain is just a copy of the previous villain (the case with Obito and Madara).

thats why kisame was the best villian.... he stayed evil till the end... and he died finishing his mission ... like a pimp

 

[Cael]

Kaguya is being controlled by BZ U_U

how can Bz controlled kaguya when Bz is kaguya

 

[Shinato]

how can Bz controlled kaguya when Bz is kaguya

Black Zetsu has the will of Kaugya, he is not Kaguya. (Or else he wouldn't call Kaguya and himself as different beings.)

 

[Secret Zetsu]

That is what I like about Naruto. They are all products of our world, and they want to change it for what to them, seems better. Because to them, they aren't the villian. To everyone else, they are, and it's all a matter of prospective. A lot of the villians who "turn good," are simply seeing things in a different perspective. They never intended for their end goals to be bad, they were coming from a standpoint of wanting to help the world. It is through others that many have learned (Nagato, Obito, etc.) that their means to the end may not have been the right way at all. They see the error in their ways from people who have a strong soul and perspective, like Naruto.