Susanoo works Like a Bijuu

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Lord F

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Shaz;[B said:
[/B]19940295]Two heads are better than one. So you got it wrong buddy.

I got it wrong? What are you on about? What do people say when jinchurkis win fights? "Aw man X totally neg diff duo'd Y"

The act of soloing means one accomplishes something on his lonesome, with no external forces purposely working in their favor.

So no, you got it wrong, bud.
 

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Glaciers FRACTURE.
Gaara reached into a Susanoo
Kaguya put holes into Susanoo
Tsunade Cracked a Hole into Susanoo

Unless you fervently believe that Sasuke and Madara have enough chakra to create Mountain Range sized Balls of chakra.

Glaciers crack, everyone knows this.

Yes only that level of susanoo once it gets legs it is no longer hollow because it no longer relies on the mobility of the users body.

So what if kaguya put holes in susanoo? That proves nothing, one can put holes in concrete and it isn't hollow

Cracked a hole in susanoo, your're point? People can crack holes in concrete too.

Mountain ranged ball of chakra? What brought that about? If you mean the susanoo then yes they are.
 

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I got it wrong? What are you on about? What do people say when jinchurkis win fights? "Aw man X totally neg diff duo'd Y"

The act of soloing means one accomplishes something on his lonesome, with no external forces purposely working in their favor.

So no, you got it wrong, bud.

There is no "I" in team. That is why I support Naruto's way of fighting. Something evil lords like you will never understand.

Not to intrude but Madara tanked that with a V4.

I don't remember that so it never happen. :cool:

Sasukes uses flight :cool:

6 tails white bug spray will put him down to earth.
 
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Glaciers crack, everyone knows this.

Yes only that level of susanoo once it gets legs it is no longer hollow because it no longer relies on the mobility of the users body.

So what if kaguya put holes in susanoo? That proves nothing, one can put holes in concrete and it isn't hollow

Cracked a hole in susanoo, your're point? People can crack holes in concrete too.

Mountain ranged ball of chakra? What brought that about? If you mean the susanoo then yes they are.

Look up Zone of Fracture Glaciers on Google.
Kaguya cracked the front of Susanoo, Not the Back, and the Shards of it flew out. Sasuke poured Bijuu Chakra into his Susanoo, he put people inside of it is random places. He flies out of it anytime it breaks.

I'm not saying it's weak. It's a hollow diamond shield.
 

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Look up Zone of Fracture Glaciers on Google.
Kaguya cracked the front of Susanoo, Not the Back, and the Shards of it flew out. Sasuke poured Bijuu Chakra into his Susanoo, he put people inside of it is random places. He flies out of it anytime it breaks.

I'm not saying it's weak. It's a hollow diamond shield.
Fracture: to fracture means to break (cause separation) in terms of something hard or heavy.

You are the one who a wrong definition, if shards flew out then the susanoo did not crack it fractured.

Naruto put people inside his avatar as well and naruto's avatar has been destroyed in the same fashion as susanoo, just check the juubito fight.

Heck even TSB were cracked

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You can clearly see the cracks. They aren't hollow either
 

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Fracture: to fracture means to break (cause separation) in terms of something hard or heavy.

You are the one who a wrong definition, if shards flew out then the susanoo did not crack it fractured.

Naruto put people inside his avatar as well and naruto's avatar has been destroyed in the same fashion as susanoo, just check the juubito fight.

Heck even TSB were cracked

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You can clearly see the cracks. They aren't hollow either

That TSB shield is very hollow.
Susanoo is also very hollow. Madara literally came right through the front. See the Danzo fight, where he blows an air blast, that Rips Susanoo and the inside is hollow.
 

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That TSB shield is very hollow.
Susanoo is also very hollow. Madara literally came right through the front. See the Danzo fight, where he blows an air blast, that Rips Susanoo and the inside is hollow.

TSB are only hollow when used to cover or wrap around something, they aren't hollow when flat or in ball shape

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Yes I know susanoo is hollow in that stage but it stops being hollow once it gets legs because it's mobility isn't dependent on its users body anymore. Susanoo with legs has to not be hollow or the user would be thrown about inside when it is moving

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The same goes for naruto's avatar
 
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TSB are only hollow when used to cover or wrap around something, they aren't hollow when flat or in ball shape

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Yes I know susanoo is hollow in that stage but it stops being hollow once it gets legs because it's mobility isn't dependent on its users body anymore. Susanoo with legs has to not be hollow or the user would be thrown about inside when it is moving

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The same goes for naruto's avatar

Naruto literally sticks his hand out of his avatar on occasion.
Show me a scan showing why susanoo isn't hollow.
 

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I noticed a few things about Susanoo, but first I will note some things
1. Susanoo is based purely on the users own Chakra.
2. Susanoo is formed in the Brain, and only in the Brain.
3. To control Susanoo and Stabilize it, you have to have immense chakra control, and the ability to overcome the pain of it. (It hurts "every cell in your body" as Sasuke put it.)

So for One, Susanoo has a form before Rib cage. It is in the form of a Chakra Shroud that resembles a V1 Lightning Cloak
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Now I'm not saying it grants extra powers, but it should be noted this flame-like form exists, and could very possibly be a viable counter to jutsu like Amaterasu or C4.

Secondly, the Idea of Breaking Susanoo. A major difference between Susanoo and The Bijuu Avatar is how they are. Susanoo is like a hard glass shield, while the Avatar is like being covered with pillows. The difference is, Susanoo is hollow (Susanoo user's typically don't have the chakra to flesh out a Susanoo, the exception being Iso Susanoo) and Susanoo is easier to replace, where the Avatar is full, and harder to create, and harder to diminish, but allows to user to end up still taking some of the force of the attacks. (Sakura punching the Avatar wouldn't affect the Avatar, but it would Make Naruto feel a very watered down punch. Punching a Susanoo would slightly crack it, but Sasuke would not feel anything)

Susanoo isn't an entity, like Kurama, but to awaken it takes a sense of Emotional Enlightenment, akin to awakening MS. It is an embodiment of the user's mind and will. It does have an emotional standpoint.

Tl;Dr
Susanoo starts from a flame shroud, not the Ribcage.
Susanoo has different properties from a Bijuu Avatar.
Susanoo does have much to do with enlightenment.

I agree for the most part. Great thread.

Not sure where you got that Susanoo is hollow thing from, because it certainly isn't in the manga. Only Iso Susanoo is hollow because it needs to coat something.

It is hollow.

"To control Susanoo and Stabilize it, you have to have immense chakra control" that's a bit if-ey as I don't remember anything to support that claim but the rest seemed okay & is common sense, for the most part. Bijuu avatar is more jelly/liquid like and reforms better.

I'd make the same argument, but the OP's point seems valid though.

Susanoo does not think on its own unlike a Bijuu. Hence why Bijuu > Susanoo.

Another crappy troll response from you. People like you are the reason why I'm usually out of dislikes half way through the day.

Bijuu>P.S?
Well Shukaku can throw for 1 month TBB and i
Shukaku will lose since he's not op enough to destroy it...
P.S is not a living being,sound like you're trying to say:
Butterfly>Rasenshuriken since it's alive.
Shukaku is a being,Susanoo is a weapon...
Argument invalid mr.Naruto fan -_-

@bold I LOL'd hard at that. Shaz is a fool BTW.

That isn't a crack that is a fracture. Learn up. Only hollow objects crack.

Really? Wouldn't a glass marble crack if fallen despite not being hollow?

Two heads are better than one. So you got it wrong buddy.

Except if that one head is an Uchiha head.

Right, on Madara's feet. Touching the ground, thus in contact with the sand. The inside is ethereal chakra or something akin to that, which explains why people can enter and exit the construct while floating around.

Susanoo is full inside, can't post scans on my tablet but look at VOTE chapters when Sasuke's PS was damaged, you can clearly see it wasn't hollow. That's just one of the many occasions.

@bold When?

5 kage nearly killed Sasuke individually lol

Susanoo weapons were present that time. Only one time Sasuke used and the Kages were overpowered. BTW, Sasuke barely manifested Susanoo against the Kages. He used ribcage at max for defense and was severely weakened. He used V1 once and owned the room.

You mean after his Godly brother gave him his Godly eyes?

Before that.
 
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If the points were so valid. There'd be no objections. Just because one thing said by someone is correct, doesn't mean everything else they say is.

Ik susano camping was present at the time...& he still got whooped by all the kages individually. He "owned" the room because he had to run away as he was running low on chakra & his eyes were bleeding & Danzo was his target etc. That's not a feat...He used ribcage because that's all he could use at the time. Susano is fueled by hatred, which is why he could use a better susano vs Danzo despite going almost fully blind & only got V1 when he got worked up. Your excuses are piss poor.

Before that? That was when he tried. Derp. He got whooped WITH MS. When Itachi gave him his eyes he got EMS.
 
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