Sasuke arguably has the strongest short range jutsu

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Wait, what am I saying? No one can react to Ameno.

It's instant.

He reacted to the after math of Ameno which is the movement... difference mook ass *****.

Same with FTG no one in NU can react to something that's instant.
 

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Listen, and understand! Those Sasukefans are out there! They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And They absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are turned into a mindless Sasuke-worshipping zombie!
But History is on My side, FACT Sasuke Said for All time "I QUIT". Sasuke is a QUITER in every country and language all Sasuke Fanatics have this factual knife stuck on them.
 

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But History is on My side, FACT Sasuke Said for All time "I QUIT". Sasuke is a QUITER in every country and language all Sasuke Fanatics have this factual knife stuck on them.

If Sasuke was a quitter he wouldn't have made it past Orochimaru let alone Itachi :coffee:
 

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If Sasuke was a quitter he wouldn't have made it past Orochimaru let alone Itachi :coffee:
Fact Sasuke Surender the scroll in the Chuning Exam to Orochimaru out of fear,Naruto had to save Him and show Him what a Real Man dose its a Historical Manga Fact you can't change that,HAAAA!
 

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Fact Sasuke Surender the scroll in the Chuning Exam to Orochimaru out of fear,Naruto had to save Him and show Him what a Real Man dose its a Historical Manga Fact you can't change that,HAAAA!

He was a 12 year old genin with no experience against high tier opponents, his fear is completely justified. Naruto seemed brave only because he was naive and idiotic at the time, he would've gotten his ass handed to him if he faced Orochimaru, that's a fact.
 

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He was a 12 year old genin with no experience against high tier opponents, his fear is completely justified. Naruto seemed brave only because he was naive and idiotic at the time, he would've gotten his ass handed to him if he faced Orochimaru, that's a fact.

He wasn't naive or idiotic. Sasuke attempted to trade the scroll for their lives.

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Naruto stopped him much to Sasuke's dismay. Angered at Naruto he asked why he would do that.

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Naruto's response was how would giving him the scroll guarantee that he wouldn't just end up trying to kill them afterwards. That the only way to get out of this situation was to fight.

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To which Orochimaru smiled and agreed.

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It wasn't until Naruto saved him.

[video=youtube;QXoMKXtTKds]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXoMKXtTKds[/video]

Naruto was rendered unconscious and Sakura called Sasuke a coward did he actually come to terms that he's going to have to fight with his life on the line.

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This was literally paramount to Sasuke's character development.

He is a shinobi no matter his age he shouldn't have such fear. hell, Boruto at least attempted to fight Momo in the chuunin exams rather than beg for his life.​
 
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He was a 12 year old genin with no experience against high tier opponents, his fear is completely justified. Naruto seemed brave only because he was naive and idiotic at the time, he would've gotten his ass handed to him if he faced Orochimaru, that's a fact.
So was Naruto yet Naruto could see Orochimaru for what He was back then. And Sasuke was stupid sinesOrochimaru lost a hand and a battle against Itachi so how is Orochimaru going to teach Sasuke how to defeat Itachi when He could not do so Himself? And you still can't change the fact that Sasuke surrendered to Naruto and Sasuke jutsu did not stop Naruto.
 

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If Sasuke was a quitter he wouldn't have made it past Orochimaru let alone Itachi :coffee:
Fact Orochimaru was weak because 4 Tailed Naruto burn up His body in their battle and Itachi was dying and going blind before He fought Sasuke so Sasuke never fought Orochimaru and Itachi when they were at full power and health and that is canon and you can't change canon and arguing canon only makes you be a loser on life.
 

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So was Naruto yet Naruto could see Orochimaru for what He was back then. And Sasuke was stupid sinesOrochimaru lost a hand and a battle against Itachi so how is Orochimaru going to teach Sasuke how to defeat Itachi when He could not do so Himself? And you still can't change the fact that Sasuke surrendered to Naruto and Sasuke jutsu did not stop Naruto.

Sasuke saw Orochimaru for what he was as well, if Naruto used his guts to fight Oro he would've died within 5min, Sasuke was smart enough to know he's not strong enough to win a fight against a Kage tier opponent.

In the end of the day Sasuke made the right choice of joining Orochimaru, thanks to that he develpped the skill to fight Kage-tier opponents and also gave Naruto the motivation to unlock his full potential. If Sasuke remained in Konoha neither him nor Naruto would've been as strong as they currently are.
 

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Sasuke saw Orochimaru for what he was as well, if Naruto used his guts to fight Oro he would've died within 5min, Sasuke was smart enough to know he's not strong enough to win a fight against a Kage tier opponent.

In the end of the day Sasuke made the right choice of joining Orochimaru, thanks to that he develpped the skill to fight Kage-tier opponents and also gave Naruto the motivation to unlock his full potential. If Sasuke remained in Konoha neither him nor Naruto would've been as strong as they currently are.

lmfao...
 

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Sasuke saw Orochimaru for what he was as well, if Naruto used his guts to fight Oro he would've died within 5min, Sasuke was smart enough to know he's not strong enough to win a fight against a Kage tier opponent.

In the end of the day Sasuke made the right choice of joining Orochimaru, thanks to that he develpped the skill to fight Kage-tier opponents and also gave Naruto the motivation to unlock his full potential. If Sasuke remained in Konoha neither him nor Naruto would've been as strong as they currently are.
No Sasuke the spoiled child made all the wrong choices in life and its now paying for them, thats why after His defeat at the hands of Naruto Sasuke when into the wilderness as an act of contrition for the forgiveness of His sines. The Sasuke you fanatic worship died the day He said"I QUIT" And has gone thru a hole born again mode and He now has a new purpose in life to follow the thechiengs of His Lord and Savior Naruto Uzumaki and You can't change that.
 

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He wasn't naive or idiotic. Sasuke attempted to trade the scroll for their lives.

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Naruto stopped him much to Sasuke's dismay. Angered at Naruto he asked why he would do that.

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Naruto's response was how would giving him the scroll guarantee that he wouldn't just end up trying to kill them afterwards. That the only way to get out of this situation was to fight.

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To which Orochimaru smiled and agreed.

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It wasn't until Naruto saved him.

[video=youtube;QXoMKXtTKds]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXoMKXtTKds[/video]

Naruto was rendered unconscious and Sakura called Sasuke a coward did he actually come to terms that he's going to have to fight with his life on the line.

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This was literally paramount to Sasuke's character development.

He is a shinobi no matter his age he shouldn't have such fear. hell, Boruto at least attempted to fight Momo in the chuunin exams rather than beg for his life.​

There's still some credence to SenseiSama's claim. People still harbor fear regardless of their status; Kakashi illustrates this perfectly. Despite being surrounded by fear and loss, he still feared Orochimaru and his father was Sakumo whose legacy breeds courage, now cowardice. Naruto did not waver because he failed to understand the gravity of the situation, this is explicitly why Jiraiya expresses concern upon Naruto's foreseeable encounters with the Akatsuki because Naruto's recklessness causes him approach situations injudiciously and temerariously.

But you're correct, as a leader, one shouldn't be a deer caught in the headlights and Naruto & Sakura both required Sasuke's leadership to succeed which is impossible when Sasuke is oppressed by excruciating fear and thus, makes egregious decisions that jeopardizes the safety of his team.
 
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