Sasori vs Kakuzu

[Joki]

ok besides that like i said before kakuzu will get caught by the 100 puppets and iron sand world method, thats way to much for him to dodge u have to under stand that, even if he usen his best moves to blow away some of the puppets he wont be able to destroy them all at once , its attacks coming from multiple angles PLUS iron sand drizzle, thats a really fast attack , that way to much dude Kakuzu is bond to get hit, and if he goes down or even falls once world method will spike right trew his mask , and even if he turns dymand what then? with out his mask he'll have to resort to close range and well thats game

Again Kakuzu took

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, Iron Sand/100 Puppets won't bypass his defences. Meanwhile you still haven't given any notable counters to the large scale attacks that should obliterate all of the puppets in question, AKA Katon+Fuuton combination.

oh and kakuzu turn hard, water jet cutters and he'll get sliced up

That was filler

and just an FYI if you have a heart you have a bloodstream running in your body, kakuzu has what 4,5 ... a nice poison fog and yea sasoris got him so stop saying kakuzu dont have a blood stream , cuz he does have blood and its shown in then manga and anime,

He has hearts that detach from his body, guy has never bled on-panel. The anime isn't canon so if he bled it's because the anime doesn't know anything we don't know. He's never bled from any part other than his hearts which is obvious, he won't be affected by the poison. As I said though even if he was Dotonomo would tank everything, Sasori wouldn't be able to scratch him in the first place.

Plus, show me one panel of the manga where Kakuzu bled in any place other than his hearts, I'll drop the argument right here because I'm confident enough to know Kakuzu has never bled

and just incase u try to get smart with his attcks, kakuzu uses his wind to blow it away, well sasori fires bak with flames and uses the wind to power up his flames, melting kakuzu hahaha and just incase lets just say sasori makes a fog and then covers kakuzu in an iron sand dome, he wont blast his way out that

Well considering Kakuzu's katon is much more powerful than Sasori's and he can use it to fuel his own wind...

 

[Stark]

Kakuzu all the way IMO now, Kakuzu is on another level. Kakuzu survived a fight with Hashirama and lived. Sasori took over a nation of helpless people.

 

[Puppet Sage Mode]

Kakuzu all the way IMO now, Kakuzu is on another level. Kakuzu survived a fight with Hashirama and lived. Sasori took over a nation of helpless people.

ok he took on Hashirama but how much of a fight did he give him?
and a nation of hopeless ppl? yea i must have missed were it said that part(sarcasm)

thats like saying itachi took down the uchiha clan but none of them had any real skills or talent hahahaha

 

[Puppet Sage Mode]

Again Kakuzu took

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, Iron Sand/100 Puppets won't bypass his defences. Meanwhile you still haven't given any notable counters to the large scale attacks that should obliterate all of the puppets in question, AKA Katon+Fuuton combination.

That was filler

He has hearts that detach from his body, guy has never bled on-panel. The anime isn't canon so if he bled it's because the anime doesn't know anything we don't know. He's never bled from any part other than his hearts which is obvious, he won't be affected by the poison. As I said though even if he was Dotonomo would tank everything, Sasori wouldn't be able to scratch him in the first place.

Plus, show me one panel of the manga where Kakuzu bled in any place other than his hearts, I'll drop the argument right here because I'm confident enough to know Kakuzu has never bled

Well considering Kakuzu's katon is much more powerful than Sasori's and he can use it to fuel his own wind...

He has hearts that detach from his body, guy has never bled on-panel. The anime isn't canon so if he bled it's because the anime doesn't know anything we don't know. He's never bled from any part other than his hearts which is obvious, he won't be affected by the poison. As I said though even if he was Dotonomo would tank everything, Sasori wouldn't be able to scratch him in the first place.

Plus, show me one panel of the manga where Kakuzu bled in any place other than his hearts, I'll drop the argument right here because I'm confident enough to know Kakuzu has never bled


ok dude 1st of all do you know how a heart works? you need a bloodstream to circilate from your body up to your heart, and no were in the anime or manga does it say Kakuzu doest bleed from his body so he is human more or less, and he does have organs which require a human way of working hes no robot, his body as crazy as it is and can get still has the same pricipals as a regular human , meaning respiratory and circulatory system, meaning a poison fog will kill him , hes not sasori which only thing that keeps him alive is that one piece that has pretty much his soul , so ther dude drop it friends?

 

[Stark]

You guys are hardcore lol

 

[obscoral]

kakuzu

 

[Just L]

kakuzu

 

[Stark]

Kakuzu

 

[Joki]

ok dude 1st of all do you know how a heart works? you need a bloodstream to circilate from your body up to your heart, and no were in the anime or manga does it say Kakuzu doest bleed from his body so he is human more or less, and he does have organs which require a human way of working hes no robot, his body as crazy as it is and can get still has the same pricipals as a regular human , meaning respiratory and circulatory system, meaning a poison fog will kill him , hes not sasori which only thing that keeps him alive is that one piece that has pretty much his soul , so ther dude drop it friends?

Yeah, and Hidan can talk with his head cut off. Okay, how would Hidan ever be able to talk without a head judging by the human body, he obviously shouldn't be able to talk with his head cut off even if he doesn't die from getting his head cut off. it'd be impossible to talk. So there's no point in using logic. Orochimaru was cut in half and his entire inside was snakes. So there's not much point in using logic in that sense.

This is ridiculously fallacious, because I can't prove Kakuzu doesn't have a bloodstream he does? On the other side of things(assuming I can't prove it, which I can), you can't prove that there isn't a teapot orbiting around the moon therefore there is one. Not the best logic there is but alright.

However, it's totally fine to say that since I totally can prove it. Fallacy or not. Kakuzu has never bled on panel ever except from his hearts, he's expelled threads from every spot on his body. Logically he doesn't have a bloodstream, it would be impossible from what we've seen. Now on the other hand I'd like you to prove that he does have a bloodstream if you don't mind.

Although, again this entire argument is pointless. Whether he has a bloodstream is pointless, Kakuzu has Doton: Domo which like I said tanked much more than Iron Sand has ever dished out without a scratch. Once 3rd Kazekage puppet is destroyed Sasori can't use it any more, Sasori has literally nothing that can hurt Kakuzu in the first place bloodstream or not.

 

[Memoria]

Why are you people underestimating Sasori? IMO his Iron Sand would mess Kakuzu up, plus he has 298 Human Puppets which most probably has special abilities and KG, he doesn't choose anyone for his collection, and something people should know that Kakuzu can't use his iron skin for too long, or he would have used it all the time during his fight with team 10, it drains his chakra to use it constantly, and Kakashi caught him off gourd, so it's possible for Sasori to catch him off gourd and poison him with a mere scratch.

IMO it could go either way, but I'll give it to Sasori.

 

[Moku Senju]

Kakuzu wins, he's fast as we've seen in shippuden and he can crush the puppets down, unless its just sasori all alone, then its a no contest for kakuzu

 

[Joki]

Why are you people underestimating Sasori? IMO his Iron Sand would mess Kakuzu up, plus he has 298 Human Puppets which most probably has special abilities and KG, he doesn't choose anyone for his collection, and something people should know that Kakuzu can't use his iron skin for too long, or he would have used it all the time during his fight with team 10, it drains his chakra to use it constantly, and Kakashi caught him off gourd, so it's possible for Sasori to catch him off gourd and poison him with a mere scratch.

IMO it could go either way, but I'll give it to Sasori.

Not underrating, it's just a bad matchup. As much as I would like to say Sasori who's underrated imo would win more matches.

He didn't use his iron skin because that was the first mask to be destroyed by Raikiri(which was a sneak attack and also Raiton element) extremely early in the fight. He did however use it at the beginning beforehand and tank something higher caliber than the Iron Sand has ever shown.

As I said before, these guys don't really have counters to Raiton: Gian and Katon+Fuuton combination, if Kakuzu's Doton does happen to be destroyed he has every single other heart as extra lives coupled with the lack of knowledge Sasori has. Kakuzu without his ridiculous durability still has multiple lives and hax techniques which is what allow him to beat Sasori in the first place.

Sakura and Chiyo also weren't caught off-guard, the puppets are all clearly visible and controlled by Sasori, it's doubtful that he will have any trouble not being caught off guard. Especially when he has 3 other masks fighting who can, are currently, or already have destroy/destroying/destroyed the puppets.

 

[Puppet Sage Mode]

Not underrating, it's just a bad matchup. As much as I would like to say Sasori who's underrated imo would win more matches.

He didn't use his iron skin because that was the first mask to be destroyed by Raikiri(which was a sneak attack and also Raiton element) extremely early in the fight. He did however use it at the beginning beforehand and tank something higher caliber than the Iron Sand has ever shown.

As I said before, these guys don't really have counters to Raiton: Gian and Katon+Fuuton combination, if Kakuzu's Doton does happen to be destroyed he has every single other heart as extra lives coupled with the lack of knowledge Sasori has. Kakuzu without his ridiculous durability still has multiple lives and hax techniques which is what allow him to beat Sasori in the first place.

Sakura and Chiyo also weren't caught off-guard, the puppets are all clearly visible and controlled by Sasori, it's doubtful that he will have any trouble not being caught off guard. Especially when he has 3 other masks fighting who can, are currently, or already have destroy/destroying/destroyed the puppets.

The mask can't take on a army of puppets dude, and they can't turn hard like Kakuzu only he can harden, they all have one element, and nothing more, don't you think sasori would be able to find a way to beat that, he's to out numbered to win, even as strong as his jutsus are he can wipe them all out in one shot as u wish he could, not only had but sasori himself can use instance flames that can melt rock, (Kakuzus dedence= earth style) and plus his water jet cannons also cuts trew rock like its paper, like I sand iron sand world order won't be stop by any attacks he'd use, u still haven't said how Kakuzu would live trew that little Lon escape with out a strach , oh and btw Izumo and Kotetsu were able to cut h
The all and mighty dedence of Kakuzu with swords hahahah try again

 

[Stark]

The mask can't take on a army of puppets dude, and they can't turn hard like Kakuzu only he can harden, they all have one element, and nothing more, don't you think sasori would be able to find a way to beat that, he's to out numbered to win, even as strong as his jutsus are he can wipe them all out in one shot as u wish he could, not only had but sasori himself can use instance flames that can melt rock, (Kakuzus dedence= earth style) and plus his water jet cannons also cuts trew rock like its paper, like I sand iron sand world order won't be stop by any attacks he'd use, u still haven't said how Kakuzu would live trew that little Lon escape with out a strach , oh and btw Izumo and Kotetsu were able to cut h
The all and mighty dedence of Kakuzu with swords hahahah try again

Kakuzu's masks cannot be poisoned though lol, all he has to worry about is himself, and leave the earth mask in his body.

 

[Joki]

The mask can't take on a army of puppets dude, and they can't turn hard like Kakuzu only he can harden, they all have one element, and nothing more, don't you think sasori would be able to find a way to beat that, he's to out numbered to win, even as strong as his jutsus are he can wipe them all out in one shot as u wish he could, not only had but sasori himself can use instance flames that can melt rock, (Kakuzus dedence= earth style) and plus his water jet cannons also cuts trew rock like its paper, like I sand iron sand world order won't be stop by any attacks he'd use, u still haven't said how Kakuzu would live trew that little Lon escape with out a strach , oh and btw Izumo and Kotetsu were able to cut h
The all and mighty dedence of Kakuzu with swords hahahah try again

Keep in mind the masks aren't also sitting ducks, they defend their life if the puppets go after them. They're capable of using jutsu and attacknig. So they will do just that. I don't think Sasori will find a way actually, mainly because the Katon+Fuuton combo being to opowerful for him to find a way over or Raiton:Gian being too fast for him to do anything about. And the whole thing about you know, he can't really hurt or poison Kakuzu in any case. And what Staarkk said.

Besides what technique would you possibly think could 'wipe them out in one shot'? Kakuzu uses Katon+Fuuton combo, that wipes out all if the puppets in one shot, really curious to what you think will be able to beat Kakuzu and all of his masks with one hit because last I checked Sasori unfortunately doesn't have any techniques like that.

 

[Memoria]

Not underrating, it's just a bad matchup. As much as I would like to say Sasori who's underrated imo would win more matches.

He didn't use his iron skin because that was the first mask to be destroyed by Raikiri(which was a sneak attack and also Raiton element) extremely early in the fight. He did however use it at the beginning beforehand and tank something higher caliber than the Iron Sand has ever shown.

As I said before, these guys don't really have counters to Raiton: Gian and Katon+Fuuton combination, if Kakuzu's Doton does happen to be destroyed he has every single other heart as extra lives coupled with the lack of knowledge Sasori has. Kakuzu without his ridiculous durability still has multiple lives and hax techniques which is what allow him to beat Sasori in the first place.

Sakura and Chiyo also weren't caught off-guard, the puppets are all clearly visible and controlled by Sasori, it's doubtful that he will have any trouble not being caught off guard. Especially when he has 3 other masks fighting who can, are currently, or already have destroy/destroying/destroyed the puppets.

If you're not underrating Sasori then you're overrating Kakuzu.

Sasori can protect himself with the Iron Sand, and there's no way Kakuzu can tank a giant Iron Sand spike or block, even with his earth jutsu IMO he can't tank a force of that level, plus Sasori attacks constantly with the Iron Sand until his enemy is messed up, and after that he combines the giant Iron Sand spike and block to create the World Order, that attack has a wide range so it will deal with the other hearts, plus his Iron Sand is all soaked in poison, so one scratch and you have a paralyzed Kakuzu.

I'm not saying it will be that easy, but IMO that's how it will end.

 

[Joki]

If you're not underrating Sasori then you're overrating Kakuzu.

Sasori can protect himself with the Iron Sand, and there's no way Kakuzu can tank a giant Iron Sand spike or block, even with his earth jutsu IMO he can't tank a force of that level,

Dude, you claim I'm overrating Kakuzu because he won't be able to take the iron sand. But I specifically posted a link of Kakuzu tanking a much more destructive jutsu than his iron sand, you know I'm pretty sure the point of these is to be objective and all.

plus Sasori attacks constantly with the Iron Sand until his enemy is messed up, and after that he combines the giant Iron Sand spike and block to create the World Order, that attack has a wide range so it will deal with the other hearts, plus his Iron Sand is all soaked in poison, so one scratch and you have a paralyzed Kakuzu.

I'm not saying it will be that easy, but IMO that's how it will end.

And again, Kakuzu won't be affected by the poison, especially if only for Doton: Domo in the first place. The hearts can move, they're not stuck in 1 place to be forever doomed to be ended by iron sand. Sakura didn't get pierced wholly by the jutsu, she dodged it and actually had pretty minor injuries from it.

And allow me to repeat myself yet again--Iron Sand isn't Sasori's signature move. Once the third Kazekage puppet is destroyed then Sasori can't use Iron Sand any more, it isn't a constant threat. Raiton:Gian would be too fast to stop the puppet from being destroyed and neither Sasori nor the puppet had shown speed to be able to avoid something like that. Or alternatively, the Katon/Fuuton combo would do just fine at covering such a gigantic range it's impossible for them to do anything about.

So, yeah, not underrating Sasori or overrating Kakuzu. I posted scans for pretty much everything in this fight as to why I think Kakuzu would win already, it's not like it's blatant fanboyism or I'm speculating to something that hasn't actually happened. pretty sure everything I've said so far was backed up by proof.

 

[Bogard]

Kakuzu low-mid difficulty. Sasori lacks of really destructiv technics and he can't hurt Kakuzu with his doton defense. Kakuzu in the contrary has large scale of jutsus. He could destroy Sasoris puppets without too much problems. He has great experience in battle too, and has 5hearts, so even if he get killed once, he could still survive, kill Sasori and take his heart xd

 

[Memoria]

Dude, you claim I'm overrating Kakuzu because he won't be able to take the iron sand. But I specifically posted a link of Kakuzu tanking a much more destructive jutsu than his iron sand,
you know I'm pretty sure the point of these is to be objective and all.

A jutsu much more destructive than a giant Iron Sand spike? care to share?

And again, Kakuzu won't be affected by the poison, especially if only for Doton: Domo in the first place. The hearts can move, they're not stuck in 1 place to be forever doomed to be ended by iron sand. Sakura didn't get pierced wholly by the jutsu, she dodged it and actually had pretty minor injuries from it.

Explain the first bolded part, and don't go assuming and preferably post proofs.

Second bolded part: I know that the hearts can move, they don't move by themselves though, Kakuzu controls them, similar to how Sasori controls his puppets, but Sasori has more puppets (298 Human Puppets in his collection) and he can use their KG and special abilities, so Sasori has the advantage here.

Third bolded part: Sakura didn't dodge the World Order attack, she got several scratches from it and she had to heal some of them, and of course she wasn't paralyzed by the poison because of the antidote.

And allow me to repeat myself yet again--Iron Sand isn't Sasori's signature move. Once the third Kazekage puppet is destroyed then Sasori can't use Iron Sand any more, it isn't a constant threat. Raiton:Gian would be too fast to stop the puppet from being destroyed and neither Sasori nor the puppet had shown speed to be able to avoid something like that. Or alternatively, the Katon/Fuuton combo would do just fine at covering such a gigantic range it's impossible for them to do anything about.

First bolded part: The 3rd Kazekage puppet was destroyed because Sasori sent it to kill Sakura, he didn't know that she had an antidote so he thought she was paralyzed from the poison, Kakuzu would not be lucky enough to destroy it, if Sasori uses it for long range attacks only then it'll be ok.

Second bolded part: Sasori showed a great speed feat with the 3rd Kazekage puppet, even Chiyo who fought Hanzo several times (who was known for his shunshin) thought it's fast.

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And he showed a great speed feat with his own puppet as well.

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Third bolded part: Sasori can block that attack with Iron Sand, the third Kazekage was said to be able to shape the Iron Sand freely with his magnet release, he could create any shape with it, and Sasori can use the same technique, so it'd be easy for him to shape a wall of Iron Sand, nothing from Kakuzu would be able to get through.

 

[Puppet Sage Mode]

Dude, you claim I'm overrating Kakuzu because he won't be able to take the iron sand. But I specifically posted a link of Kakuzu tanking a much more destructive jutsu than his iron sand, you know I'm pretty sure the point of these is to be objective and all. And again, Kakuzu won't be affected by the poison, especially if only for Doton: Domo in the first place. The hearts can move, they're not stuck in 1 place to be forever doomed to be ended by iron sand. Sakura didn't get pierced wholly by the jutsu, she dodged it and actually had pretty minor injuries from it.

And allow me to repeat myself yet again--Iron Sand isn't Sasori's signature move. Once the third Kazekage puppet is destroyed then Sasori can't use Iron Sand any more, it isn't a constant threat. Raiton:Gian would be too fast to stop the puppet from being destroyed and neither Sasori nor the puppet had shown speed to be able to avoid something like that. Or alternatively, the Katon/Fuuton combo would do just fine at covering such a gigantic range it's impossible for them to do anything about.

So, yeah, not underrating Sasori or overrating Kakuzu. I posted scans for pretty much everything in this fight as to why I think Kakuzu would win already, it's not like it's blatant fanboyism or I'm speculating to something that hasn't actually happened. pretty sure everything I've said so far was backed up by proof.

U keep saying he won't be able to use iron sand if his puppet is destroyed, ok well if kakuzus mask are destroyed what then, let go 1v1 now... What's Kakuzu do to kill sasor? Sasori still has he's flames and other puppets and hit jet stream cannos that will slice Kakuzu , Kakuzu would have to rely on close combat and wit sasori been a great long range he won't let his ass do it