Sasori vs Kakuzu

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Kakuzu doesn't have a bloodstream, his poison won't work. and in power, Kakuzu outclasses him with everything he has.

Sasori's a horrible matchup for Kakuzu since he's unaffected.

no bloodstream? yet shikamaru used his blood to destroy one of his hearts... hahaha try again, no attack kakuzu has can pass trew iron sand :flaw:
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I honestly don't know, I guess it depends on if Kakazu will be affected by poison
 

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sorry, I didn't see that poison was already being discussed :)
 
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besides Sasoris poison, he has a mini army ready to battle, even if kakuzu could destroy a couple with a strong attck thers still a crap load coming at him from every angle and kakuzu doesnt seem like the type who has the agility to dodge all those puppets, i mean come on naruto trick them with only like 2 to 3 clones, imagen 100 coming at him and sasoris crazy intellegents and tricks , RIP kakuzu
 

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besides Sasoris poison, he has a mini army ready to battle, even if kakuzu could destroy a couple with a strong attck thers still a crap load coming at him from every angle and kakuzu doesnt seem like the type who has the agility to dodge all those puppets, i mean come on naruto trick them with only like 2 to 3 clones, imagen 100 coming at him and sasoris crazy intellegents and tricks , RIP kakuzu

Kakuzu is actually quite agile, he ran to Choiji in a split second
 

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no bloodstream? yet shikamaru used his blood to destroy one of his hearts... hahaha try again, no attack kakuzu has can pass trew iron sand :flaw:
:scorps:Sasori wins
Yeah, he has blood in his hearts, if I didn't say it in that post, I clearly meant "other than his 5 hearts which are, well, hearts". The poison won't affect him, it goes through the bloodstream, he's made of threads aside from his hearts..which Sasori shouldn't have knowledge of in the first place.
besides Sasoris poison, he has a mini army ready to battle, even if kakuzu could destroy a couple with a strong attck thers still a crap load coming at him from every angle and kakuzu doesnt seem like the type who has the agility to dodge all those puppets, i mean come on naruto trick them with only like 2 to 3 clones, imagen 100 coming at him and sasoris crazy intellegents and tricks , RIP kakuzu
I don't see a viable answer for a Fuuton/Katon combo, thing was massive, if it doesn't destroy Sasori in the process it will at least destroy a huge majority of the puppets.

Plus Kakuzu could just use Doton:Domo and tank any attacks, guy took a huge spiked boulder from Chouji that smashed Kakuzu into the ground and made a huge crater and he came out unscathed.
 

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by hype, sasori's 3rd kazekage puppet is said to be abel to form any shape he wants with the iron sand and we've seen he can cover a wide space of it with iron sand spikes, with world order. and he can use it like missiles, with iron drizzle. magnet release makes all iron weapons useless. its basically gonna be an iron version of this .
theres no attack that kakuzu has that would penetrate the iron defence.

Plus Kakuzu could just use Dotonomo and tank any attacks
sasori can still attack after forming his defence. and kakuzu cant survive being buried under the ground or something. also if iron sand can infect puppets and make them useless, he should be able to make kakuzus earth grudge fear useless and choke him.

Lets be honest the only reason sasori lost is because Kishi willed it.
in that case the only reason itachi wins is because kishi wills it.

Doton skin = poison fail
iron sand prison = doton useless

Sasori doesn't have any incredible mass AoE attacks to destroy multiple hearts
look up iron sand world order.
 

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look up iron sand world order.
That's very precise, it's not an attack like Rasenshuriken to destroy more than 1 heart at a time.

sasori can still attack after forming his defence. and kakuzu cant survive being buried under the ground or something. also if iron sand can infect puppets and make them useless, he should be able to make kakuzus earth grudge fear useless and choke him.
Kimimaro could, so could Kakuzu

theres no attack that kakuzu has that would penetrate the iron defence.
Katon:Zukkoku+Fuuton:Atsugai, Raiton:Gian

Although Sasori's heavily underrated and I agree with everything you said about his ability to use his sand to Gaara's level except it's Iron people seem to misunderstand. it's just that he's a bad matchup for Kakuzu
 

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Kimimaro could, so could Kakuzu
kimimaro broke out because of sawarbi no mai and he wasnt buried all that far yet. gaara was low on chakra when he tried burying kimimaro
Katon:Zukkoku+Fuuton:Atsugai, Raiton:Gian
yeah iron wouldnt even notice. its stronger than gaaras sand which withstood C3 nuke, amaterasu, meteors and jouki boi
 

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kimimaro broke out because of sawarbi no mai and he wasnt buried all that far yet. gaara was low on chakra when he tried burying kimimaro
The first ti ehe got out himself using his CS2, Kakuzu's Doton:Domo was said to be stronger than diamond so I don't see him having trouble getting out from under it.

Wasn't what Gaara used a separate jutsu though? I mean, Sasori's sand is much stronger than Gaara's in every possible way but he can't create more like Gaara can he has to make it a different way, so he can't manipulate the sand in the ground to sink Kakuzu like Gaara could.
yeah iron wouldnt even notice. its stronger than gaaras sand which withstood C3 nuke, amaterasu, meteors and jouki boi
Want me to go back and get the links to all of Kakuzu's techniques? I can, a lot of people underestimate these as well and don't think they're near as strong as they actually are.

I used to think they were incredibly weak and over-rated until one day I just happened to re-read the chapter and never thought that again lol
 

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Kakuzu's Dotonomo was said to be stronger than diamond
as i said he can still be buried or imprisoned then the iron sand world order performs an iron maiden on him. i doubt his ENTIRE body is covered in the domu tech. if that doesnt work then i guess its just absolute defence vs absolute defence

Want me to go back and get the links to all of Kakuzu's techniques?
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heres the trump to this whole conversation, naruto,NARUTO! manage to out smart kakuzu with anout 3 clones hit lay a hit on him, Sasori is way more intelligent than naruto, so having 100 puppets coming at kakuzu , his remaining hearts would get hit eventually and kakuzu would fall... the Sasori would have him self a new puppet
 
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heres the trump to this whole conversation, naruto,NARUTO! manage to out smart kakuzu with anout 3 clones hit lay a hit on him, Sasori is way more intelligent than naruto, so having 100 puppets coming at kakuzu , his remaining hearts would get hit eventually and kakuzu would fall... the Sasori would have him self a new puppet

sorry for the miss spelled words or if it dont make sence, i think faster than i can type xD
 

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naruto is the number 1 unpredictable ninja and clones are hard to see through by anyone barring sharingan
 

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as i said he can still be buried or imprisoned then the iron sand world order performs an iron maiden on him. i doubt his ENTIRE body is covered in the domu tech. if that doesnt work then i guess its just absolute defence vs absolute defence
Yeah it is, plus he tanked Chouji's spiked boulder without a scratch which made a bigger crater than the Iron Sand did with the same method. so he should be able to tank the hits from it no problem.

Alright interpret them how you will I guess, I personally think they can break through his defences and is what puts Kakzuu above him..bare with me while I get 'em.

Also, Sakura broke the 3rd Kazekage puppet earlier on in the fight before Sasori had to resort to himself and the 100 puppets. So it's not like the Iron Sand will remain throughout the fight like Gaara's sand, keep in mind it's simply a part of one of his many puppets unlike Gaara. It's not really too much of a matter of 'how will they penetrate the iron sand' because after the third Kazekage puppet is defeated there's not much else in terms of beating Kakuzu.

1.) :
Able to blast through hundreds of these trees effortlessly, The trees that would take like 20 people to stand around the trunk in a circle and hold each other's hands to reach all the way around the tree. Which you can see in the surrounding chapters/pages when Kakashi/Shikamaru/Hidan fight around the trees and in panel. Not sure how effective will be against his sand shields but shoul easily be able to blast through puppets(including 3rd Kazekage)

2.) :
Again blew the trees apart, Kakashi(not to mention team 10) was a distance away and the huge blast still forced them to block, also ripped Kakashi's clothes off completely. Not sure how effective it will be against the Iron Sand by itself but it should easily break puppets(including 3rd Kazekage)

3.) :
Solod Shikamaru and Ino with 1 hit, forced Kakashi to intercept and block it, he had to use 2 Raikiri in each hand to neutralize it. This should easily destroy puppets or at least pierce through the sand, and Sasori doesn't have the speed to dodge stuff like this(and I could also get speed feats from Kakuzu if you would like). Most puppets or masters remain statinoary, and as well as during the fight with Sakura/Chiyo they were in the open the entire time. If he fires these I don't see a realistic counter, even if he blocks with Iron Sand he has 4 other "people" on his team to attack with and overwhelm. I see this breaking his puppet(3rd Kazekage, is mainly the one that has to be destroyed ofc) without tooo much trouble and eliminate the iron sand problem, but it can ealy break puppets by itself of course.

4.) :
Just what it looks like in the pages, doesn't need much narration. Took a spiked boulder head on which smashed a gigantic crater into the ground, much more than you could say from the , which although impressive can't really compare.

5.)
Easily the most impressive/powerful, huge destructive tornado of fire/wind, combination of both attacks. As you know wind fuels fire, it took a water and wind technique in combination to defend against it, doesn't really need much narration either, should easily destroy huge chunks of puppets at a time.

So anyway..to boot with all this, Sasori's poison is ineffective, and Sakura got the upper hand, fooled Sasori and broke the third Kazekage. Along with attacks like Raiton:Gian which are really too fast to be responded to easily , the third kazekage puppet should be broken one way or the other and after that it's pretty much the end of things or the end of the 'bypassing his defences". Not to mention, these are not one-use techniques and can be used over and over for mass hax/advantage. Sasori still stands a chance though, not too much of one IMO but again, it's mainly because Kakuzu is a horrible matchup for him.
 
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Yeah it is, plus he tanked Chouji's spiked boulder without a scratch which made a bigger crater than the Iron Sand did with the same method. so he should be able to tank the hits from it no problem.

Alright interpret them how you will I guess, I personally think they can break through his defences and is what puts Kakzuu above him..bare with me while I get 'em.

Also, Sakura broke the 3rd Kazekage puppet earlier on in the fight before Sasori had to resort to himself and the 100 puppets. So it's not like the Iron Sand will remain throughout the fight like Gaara's sand, keep in mind it's simply a part of one of his many puppets unlike Gaara. It's not really too much of a matter of 'how will they penetrate the iron sand' because after the third Kazekage puppet is defeated there's not much else in terms of beating Kakuzu.

1.) :
Able to blast through hundreds of these trees effortlessly, The trees that would take like 20 people to stand around the trunk in a circle and hold each other's hands to reach all the way around the tree. Which you can see in the surrounding chapters/pages when Kakashi/Shikamaru/Hidan fight around the trees and in panel. Not sure how effective will be against his sand shields but shoul easily be able to blast through puppets(including 3rd Kazekage)

2.) :
Again blew the trees apart, Kakashi(not to mention team 10) was a distance away and the huge blast still forced them to block, also ripped Kakashi's clothes off completely. Not sure how effective it will be against the Iron Sand by itself but it should easily break puppets(including 3rd Kazekage)

3.) :
Solod Shikamaru and Ino with 1 hit, forced Kakashi to intercept and block it, he had to use 2 Raikiri in each hand to neutralize it. This should easily destroy puppets or at least pierce through the sand, and Sasori doesn't have the speed to dodge stuff like this(and I could also get speed feats from Kakuzu if you would like). Most puppets or masters remain statinoary, and as well as during the fight with Sakura/Chiyo they were in the open the entire time. If he fires these I don't see a realistic counter, even if he blocks with Iron Sand he has 4 other "people" on his team to attack with and overwhelm. I see this breaking his puppet(3rd Kazekage, is mainly the one that has to be destroyed ofc) without tooo much trouble and eliminate the iron sand problem, but it can ealy break puppets by itself of course.

4.) :
Just what it looks like in the pages, doesn't need much narration. Took a spiked boulder head on which smashed a gigantic crater into the ground, much more than you could say from the , which although impressive can't really compare.

5.)
Easily the most impressive/powerful, huge destructive tornado of fire/wind, combination of both attacks. As you know wind fuels fire, it took a water and wind technique in combination to defend against it, doesn't really need much narration either, should easily destroy huge chunks of puppets at a time.

So anyway..to boot with all this, Sasori's poison is ineffective, and Sakura got the upper hand, fooled Sasori and broke the third Kazekage. Along with attacks like Raiton:Gian which are really too fast to be responded to easily , the third kazekage puppet should be broken one way or the other and after that it's pretty much the end of things or the end of the 'bypassing his defences". Not to mention, these are not one-use techniques and can be used over and over for mass hax/advantage. Sasori still stands a chance though, not too much of one IMO but again, it's mainly because Kakuzu is a horrible matchup for him.

like i said kakuzu got caught by 3 clones, imagen 100 coming to him, and sasori only lost cuz chiyo was ther sakura alone would have die 100% sure, kakuzu isn the worst match for sasori, lets not forget sasori can just slice up kakuzus hearts from long range with his hydro water cannos, they can cut trew dymond, cut water pressure that much can cut trew even streel , even in the real world :)
 

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like i said kakuzu got caught by 3 clones, imagen 100 coming to him, and sasori only lost cuz chiyo was ther sakura alone would have die 100% sure, kakuzu isn the worst match for sasori, lets not forget sasori can just slice up kakuzus hearts from long range with his hydro water cannos, they can cut trew dymond, cut water pressure that much can cut trew even streel , even in the real world :)
He got caught due to his arrogance and Naruto's strategy, it's different than 100 puppets attacking him straightforward when a Katon+Fuuton combo will take most of them out and he can just spam it.

And it's also different when they can't hurt Kakuzu anyway, he hardens himself with Doton: Domo and it won't matter how many come at him, 100 or 1,000 they can't scratch him so it won't matter. While they still have to deal with all of Kakuzu's elemental spam.

They can't cut through diamond, besides that Water Gun was filler and if he tries that Kakuzu will use Raiton:Gian

Plus you ignored pretty much the whole meat of my post that actually posted the links to every technique and you didn't give a counter to any of them, but alright it's cool
 
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