Rinnegan or rsm

[HinataSupremeG]

Tenseigan solos both

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

For people like Nagato, yes, there in no instant mastery of jutsu. But for Uchiha welders, it's quite easy to copy jutsu in sharigan state and enhance it in rinnegan form.

Sasuke choose not to copy jutsu back in the Chunin Prelims.

 

[take it easy]

Rsm because quality over quantity.

 

[Remedy]

Sasuke choose not to copy jutsu back in the Chunin Prelims.

So why did Sasuke pop up all the sudden? Lower the fanboy wall.

 

[Holy God]

The Rinnegan takes more raw power to control and utilize. Obito was unable to handle the power of a complete set, yet was able to harness the power of the nine tailed beasts' chakra, which was an even greater amount than what Naruto carried(carries).

 

[Narutrol]

The Rinnegan takes more raw power to control and utilize. Obito was unable to handle the power of a complete set, yet was able to harness the power of the nine tailed beasts' chakra, which was an even greater amount than what Naruto carried(carries).

Very very good poinT therefore I go for rinnegan

 

[Merkel]

missing a lot of things...the rinnegan and RSM are both huge powers that only an incarnation of a member of the otsutsuki family caan control properly. Nagato is an uzumaki. I'd bet his chakra reserves are more than base naruto's. But yet his control of madara's rinnegan was poor. The abilities he displayed are almost nothing compared to someone like madara having both eyes. Naruto's also an uzumaki, who is the kyuubi's jinchuuriki. Though, just half of it was sealed in him almost his whole life. As ashura's incarnation he mastered senjutsu perfectly, and also mastered RSM, which used all bijuu chakra. But the reason why only an uzumaki can handle being kurama's host is the fact that they have the chakra strong enough to keep the sealing jutsu. A kyuubi jin with weak chakra would cause the kyuubi to break free easily. But when the bijuu chakra isn't "sealed" (forced down in a jin), just how it is now with naruto and kurama, then this doesn't apply. Because the threat of the bijuu going wild and taking over the host has being eliminated, the significance of the jin's chakra in keeping the bijuu chakra at rest becomes really low. Same applies to dojutsu. Kakashi had chakra control on the level of most high jounin before he turned 15. His usage of the sharingan was quite good, though he used more chakra than an uchiha would while using the sharingan, but he came quite close with practice. AND THIS WAS JUST ONE SHARINGAN. Obito who is an uchiha with hashirama's cells stuffed in him could only handle one rinnegan. He never displayed any key ability with it though. He became the juubi's jinchuuriki and almost lost his mind. madara became its jin and stayed the same. This shows the difference in chakra potency, madara was one who awakened the rinnegan, hence already was a reincarnation of the sage, and also indra. The reason sasuke said kakashi could handle the rinnegan was probably because part of obito's rikudou chakra was still in him, and would help stabilize it, or naruto would simply give him some rikudou chakra which would help him control it. And since RSM comes with all 9 bijuu, I'd say it takes their chakra from keeping the user sane. Just like how Kurama was able to absorb all that chakra at VOTE 2, I don't think Naruto himself would be able to do it WITH HIS OWN CHAKRA. natural energy needs about the same yin and yang energy to balance it, naruto would need a vast amount of chakra like kurama's to absorb that amount of energy. Proof: The amount of chakra naruto absorbed while going BSM against obito was much less, because sasuke never got concerned with the quantity of natural energy. This is because naruto was doing the absorbing thing himself.

My point is no one who isn't related to an ootsutsuki in some way can control rinnegan or RSM on madara's level. Madara is the only reincarnation to go really high on both. Any other shinobi would look pathetic

I stopped reading once you said Nagato's use of the rinnegan was poor. Nagato has shown the most mastery of the rinnegan of any user.

 

[Styles]

Controlling the massive amounts of chakra Naruto can is probably more difficult than controlling the Rinnegan.

However, it all depends on the person using it.

So controlling 9 bijuus chakra and Senjutsu chakra takes no skill nor knowledge?

That's wrong Obito became JJ and almost lost himself then controlled it in like 5 seconds but still said that 1 Rinnegan's chakra was to strong he almost lost himself.

 

[-immortal-]

Rsm is easier to controll then rinnegan


Obito couldn't use both rinnegans but could absorb and controll the jubis powers perfectly

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Didn't Jiraiya note how at the age of 10 Nagato could learn any jutsu he wanted so learning the Dojutsu's unique abilities eventually can't of been that hard compared to Naruto who spent his entire life trying to do this with Yang Kurama not succeeding until he met Bee who trains him to forcibly take Chakra from Kurama only during the Fourth Ninja War does Naruto only display some type of Master of Kurama.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Kakashi couldn't handle the Rinnegan, neither could he handle RSM. But RSM is out of question because it cannot be endowed (implanted) like the Rinnegan. Kakashi would've needed body modifications to support the Rinnegan's implantation. Which could have been further elaborated if the plot went in that direction.

BTW, RSM requires skills but more importantly a body that's capable enough to handle the senjutsu chakra. It cannot be transferred to another person. Whereas Rinnegan requires skills, time and knowledge to achieve its full potential, and a body capable to bear the overwhelming power.

 

[KidGamer65]

It's literally stated that RSM gives you an automatic understanding of chakra and all that jazz. And you get the unconscious mastery of the floating ability. Rinnegan requires more skill.

 

[KingHashirama]

Both are intially the same.. I mean look at how Sasuke gained automatic knowledge on Indra's arrow.. despite never learning it.

Sasuke can probably get RSM.. but he won't have the same mastery as Naruto Uzumaki, without actually training with senjutsu like Naruto uzumaki. Naruto can get the rinnegan and probably won't have the same mastery Sasuke had at VOTE, because hes never trained with Eyes.

Naruto is the only Senjutsu user who can gather the entire nature chakra of the planet.

That's wrong Obito became JJ and almost lost himself then controlled it in like 5 seconds but still said that 1 Rinnegan's chakra was to strong he almost lost himself.

Because he wasn't the original user of those eyes..

Just like for Madara to get Hashirama's SM, he needed Hashirama's own body. Similarly to have full mastery on that rinnegan you'd need the original user's body.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Both are intially the same.. I mean look at how Sasuke gained automatic knowledge on Indra's arrow.. despite never learning it.

Sasuke can probably get RSM.. but he won't have the same mastery as Naruto Uzumaki, without actually training with senjutsu like Naruto uzumaki. Naruto can get the rinnegan and probably won't have the same mastery Sasuke had at VOTE, because hes never trained with Eyes.

Naruto is the only Senjutsu user who can gather the entire nature chakra of the planet.



Because he wasn't the original user of those eyes..

Just like for Madara to get Hashirama's SM, he needed Hashirama's own body. Similarly to have full mastery on that rinnegan you'd need the original user's body.

I'm sorry, but did you say Sasuke gained automatic knowledge on Indra's Arrow? If yes, then listen up...

Indra's Arrow is Sasuke's own technique. He did not learn it from somewhere, he created it. If you think Indra created the technique just because it's named "Indra's Arrow" then you're probably delusional. So there is absolutely no point of automatic knowledge on something Sasuke himself created.

Secondly, what possibly has the Indra's Arrow got to do with the Rinnegan? Why are you associating it with the Rinnegan anyway? It's Susanoo's technique i.e. Sharingan's powers. Now that the Rinnegan possesses enhanced Sharingan powers, it partly be called Rinnegan's powers, but its origins lie in the Sharingan. It's Rinnegan's technique because Sasuke's Rinnegan retains his EMS powers which Susanoo really belongs to.

So on top of the baseless point of gaining automatic knowledge, even your association of Indra's Arrow with Rinnegan is entirely flawed.

Indra's Arrow is an extremely powerful variant of the Susanoo's arrow with Lightning. Sasuke boosted the scale of his former technique to insane levels just like Naruto did. Are you going to say Naruto gained knowledge of those supercharged Rasenshurikens since they can be associated with RSM? Obviously no. So why is Sasuke the victim of this stupid belief?

 

[Ultimateone]

They are two sides of the same coin. The thing about rennigan, or dojutsu period, it seems that the techniques are instinctual for the most part. As soon as sasuke got the rennigan he started using that space time jutsu. Than later out of nowhere he uses chibaku tensie.

With the rsm, it looked easy for naruto because he had already been using bm all day, so he had basically got a boost to powers he already had, plus truth seeking orbs, plus bijuu elements and flight.

To say which one is harder is hard to say. Obito is a bad example because he had trouble with both.

 

[Styles]

Both are intially the same.. I mean look at how Sasuke gained automatic knowledge on Indra's arrow.. despite never learning it.

Sasuke can probably get RSM.. but he won't have the same mastery as Naruto Uzumaki, without actually training with senjutsu like Naruto uzumaki. Naruto can get the rinnegan and probably won't have the same mastery Sasuke had at VOTE, because hes never trained with Eyes.

Naruto is the only Senjutsu user who can gather the entire nature chakra of the planet.



Because he wasn't the original user of those eyes..

Just like for Madara to get Hashirama's SM, he needed Hashirama's own body. Similarly to have full mastery on that rinnegan you'd need the original user's body.

:| Nagato wasn't the original owner and he controlled both Rinnegan perfectly Obito who had Hashirama's DNA and a JJ couldn't even handle that 1 make another excuse bruh.

 

[ComplexCity]

The Sharingan allows the user to perfectly copy jutsu from seeing it just once. The Rinnegan doesn't. Nagato learned it quickly cause he's a genuis. The Rinnegan gives the user the potential to use any technique, the user has to learn them, they don't have instant mastery of it.

Otherwise Sasuke,Madara,Obito,Nagato,and Kaguya would have been tossing out all types of jutsu.

Doesn't mean you can use it. The Rinnegan gives access to the 5 basic affinities. You have to have the affinity to use the jutsu and you've copied it with the sharigan

 

[Sage konohamaru]

missing a lot of things...the rinnegan and RSM are both huge powers that only an incarnation of a member of the otsutsuki family caan control properly. Nagato is an uzumaki. I'd bet his chakra reserves are more than base naruto's. But yet his control of madara's rinnegan was poor. The abilities he displayed are almost nothing compared to someone like madara having both eyes. Naruto's also an uzumaki, who is the kyuubi's jinchuuriki. Though, just half of it was sealed in him almost his whole life. As ashura's incarnation he mastered senjutsu perfectly, and also mastered RSM, which used all bijuu chakra. But the reason why only an uzumaki can handle being kurama's host is the fact that they have the chakra strong enough to keep the sealing jutsu. A kyuubi jin with weak chakra would cause the kyuubi to break free easily. But when the bijuu chakra isn't "sealed" (forced down in a jin), just how it is now with naruto and kurama, then this doesn't apply. Because the threat of the bijuu going wild and taking over the host has being eliminated, the significance of the jin's chakra in keeping the bijuu chakra at rest becomes really low. Same applies to dojutsu. Kakashi had chakra control on the level of most high jounin before he turned 15. His usage of the sharingan was quite good, though he used more chakra than an uchiha would while using the sharingan, but he came quite close with practice. AND THIS WAS JUST ONE SHARINGAN. Obito who is an uchiha with hashirama's cells stuffed in him could only handle one rinnegan. He never displayed any key ability with it though. He became the juubi's jinchuuriki and almost lost his mind. madara became its jin and stayed the same. This shows the difference in chakra potency, madara was one who awakened the rinnegan, hence already was a reincarnation of the sage, and also indra. The reason sasuke said kakashi could handle the rinnegan was probably because part of obito's rikudou chakra was still in him, and would help stabilize it, or naruto would simply give him some rikudou chakra which would help him control it. And since RSM comes with all 9 bijuu, I'd say it takes their chakra from keeping the user sane. Just like how Kurama was able to absorb all that chakra at VOTE 2, I don't think Naruto himself would be able to do it WITH HIS OWN CHAKRA. natural energy needs about the same yin and yang energy to balance it, naruto would need a vast amount of chakra like kurama's to absorb that amount of energy. Proof: The amount of chakra naruto absorbed while going BSM against obito was much less, because sasuke never got concerned with the quantity of natural energy. This is because naruto was doing the absorbing thing himself.

My point is no one who isn't related to an ootsutsuki in some way can control rinnegan or RSM on madara's level. Madara is the only reincarnation to go really high on both. Any other shinobi would look pathetic

TLR yeah but RSM is better right?