Put that hate away for just a moment NB..

[Edo Odin]

Well that's just it posting in this thread was simply asking me my own opinion. A potential discussing won't change it and like i said i wasn't planning to. And yes i have to believe large chakra reserves can make up for average chakra control.

If having good chakra control is the precision of executing techniques without wasted chakra. If you have large amount of chakra i would assume you have more to put into your techniques even if you are wasting it, it hardly effects you as you have such large reserves.

The question still remains, if you didn't want a discussion, why did you reply to me?

Just because you don't have a lot of Chakra doesn't mean that you want to waste it, that's just common sense. A great amount of raw Chakra won't do anyone any good if he can't control it, the aforementioned example of Naruto's lack of power in the beginning of the series is an example of that. As I said before, having naturally large Chakra reserves is completely irrelevant when it comes to Chakra Control.

 

[Avani]

In order to become a Jinchuriki, one must have strong Chakra and vitality, neither of which are related to Chakra control. As I said before, one is not born with good Chakra control, it's something you achieve through training. In this aspect, his inheritance has nothing to do with the topic.
Funnily enough, the Rasengan was also stated to be the pinnacle of Chakra Control. Yet, you've seem to have chosen to ignore that fact.

And I am saying we do not have adequate data to compare.

PS: Rasengan- Kakshi can use it. Konohamaru can use it. ... dunno why you think it was that big a deal..Sakura didn't get around to learn it, so we don't know if she could or could not do it. She has no teacher for a while remember? Kakashi focused on Sasuke and Naruto got Jiraiaya. Sakura got to sit and watch.

@Bold: I always find these kind of statements funny. If you didn't intend to have a discussion, why post on the thread/reply to my post in the first place?

After first two posts I think I made my stand pretty clear in this thread. Besides it's a thread and a free world( within forum rules off course. ). Just because I may reply to a post in a thread by no means I signed a contract with the person to keep replying to them if I don't feel like it. When I get bored/tired of arguments going in a circle or just tired of typing and keeping awake - I leave.

I think that goes for everyone.

Chakra Control can't be made up for with high Chakra reserves, if that was the case, Naruto would have been the strongest member in his class, considering just how high his reserves are. And yet, he was the worst one in his class, why? Because he lacked Chakra Control, which he has now mastered, which has brought him up to a power level of an immense degree.

Nice history lesson but I don't get the point here...

He achieved great Chakra control through brutal training, his understanding of the matter doesn't change the facts, he's still immensely talented when it comes to Chakra Control. Once again I'll mention the fact that him being an Uzumaki is completely irrelevant here. The Uzumaki clan was blessed with strong Chakra and Life Force, Chakra Control won't be inherited alongside of these things, probably because it's something you train for in order to master it. And Naruto did indeed train, far more than Sakura ever did, which is why he has managed to surpass her in this aspect, an aspect she was once superior to him in. Just by looking at the feats of the two, this should be apparent.

With all due respect for his chakra control ability I am not going to let Naruto perform an operation on me.

Character hate?[/I] Really? So, despite acknowledging her proficiency when it comes to Chakra Control, I'm a hater, just because I don't feel her feats can compare to what Naruto has showcased at this point? Please, feel free to disagree with me, but don't accuse me of something as shallow as hating a Fictional character.

Keep it in the context. That was in a reply to your argument which I found lacking. Anyway..

When people are part of fictional character bashing groups and participate in those threads regularly they tend to leave an impression. If I am mistaking you with another guy I apologies. Though in that case don't let me find you in their vicinity again.

R U sayng that Naruto's Yin is compatable to Kyubui's....?

Ya u r right he got his Yin from Minato but he'll eventually run out of Juice ....

Usng sage mode means that u should balence all Yin,Yang and Natural energy..So lack of Yin would be a prob for Naruto

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Sigh..I am saying it limits how much he can use. He needs to pick from each energy in the required ratio.

 

[Joshutsu]

The question still remains, if you didn't want a discussion, why did you reply to me?

Just because you don't have a lot of Chakra doesn't mean that you want to waste it, that's just common sense. A great amount of raw Chakra won't do anyone any good if he can't control it, the aforementioned example of Naruto's lack of power in the beginning of the series is an example of that. As I said before, having naturally large Chakra reserves is completely irrelevant when it comes to Chakra Control.

It's not that you wan't to waste it more than just not having as good chakra control as others. It's not something that's voluntary if you think that is what i am saying. No not because you have alot of something means you right out waste it.

And i ended up replying because of what you replied to me and said in the first place, if you didn't spark my attention with your answer i wouldn't have replied. It's fine though I don't want to carry it on anymore.

 

[Edo Odin]

And I am saying we do not have adequate data to compare.

And that being the case, we must go by the info we already have, which points to Naruto being the superior one.

After first two posts I think I made my stand pretty clear in this thread. Besides it's a thread and a free world( within forum rules off course. ). Just because I may reply to a post in a thread by no means I signed a contract with the person to keep replying to them if I don't feel like it. When I get bored/tired of arguments going in a circle or just tired of typing and keeping awake - I leave.

I think that goes for everyone.

That part of my post wasn't directed at you though.

Nice history lesson but I don't get the point here...

Again, not directed at you.

With all due respect for his chakra control ability I am not going to let Naruto perform an operation on me.

Of course you wouldn't, because he doesn't have any proficiency when it comes to Medical Techniques. However, Medical Techniques are not the only thing that matters when determining proficiency in Chakra Control, by that standard everyone but Tsunade, Sakura, Shiune and a few others would suck at Chakra Control.

When people are part of fictional character bashing groups and participate in those threads regularly they tend to leave an impression. If I am mistaking you with another guy I apologies. Though in that case don't let me find you in their vicinity again.

I believe you are. While I cannot say that I like Sakura's character, hating characters or letting these opinions cloud my judgement on things isn't something I'd do. :b As for the group, I believe I know what group you're talking about, and while I was invited to join it, I declined, mainly due to the reasons I mentioned here above.

 

[Avinash012]

Nice history lesson but I don't get the point here...

"Beng a chakra beast does not make a u beast at chakra control " I think that is what he is sayng in that post...

 

[Avani]

And that being the case, we must go by the info we already have, which points to Naruto being the superior one.

I disagree. Let's leave it at that.

........Of course you wouldn't, because he doesn't have any proficiency when it comes to Medical Techniques. However, Medical Techniques are not the only thing that matters when determining proficiency in Chakra Control, by that standard everyone but Tsunade, Sakura, Shiune and a few others would suck at Chakra Control.

More like I think he has no aptitude for those kind of skills.

 

[shelke]

Considering that it's only now that he managed a Rasangan with a single hand? That's great chakra control, right there.

 

[siyo]

As soon as Naruto learned to transfer and remote control Kurama's chakra outside his own body, and thus could grant his allies chakra with millimeter precision, it was pretty much game over.There's a reason Minato admitted inferiority after said feat.Someone known for efficiency.

 

[Transcendence]

Considering that it's only now that he managed a Rasangan with a single hand? That's great chakra control, right there.

That doesn't detract at all from various other feats... We know why he couldn't do a one handed one before. Now he can, which is a further testament to his control; as Rasengan has been stated to be the highest form of chakra control/manipulation.

 

[Edo Odin]

It's not that you wan't to waste it more than just not having as good chakra control as others. It's not something that's voluntary if you think that is what i am saying. No not because you have alot of something means you right out waste it.

And i ended up replying because of what you replied to me and said in the first place, if you didn't spark my attention with your answer i wouldn't have replied. It's fine though I don't want to carry it on anymore.

I'm afraid I don't see your point here. By that logic, Sakura would be considered better than people like Hashirama or Madara when it comes to Chakra control, solely because they have larger reserves. That argument in itself is simply illogical.

Fair enough.

I disagree. Let's leave it at that.

More like I think he has no aptitude for those kind of skills.

Let's.

Again, you make it seem like proficiency in Medical Techniques is the only thing that matters when it comes to Chakra reserves. Is he good at using them? No. Would he be able to learn them? Perhaps, we can't really say until he tries. However, does it mean that he's bad at Chakra Control? Obviously not.

When it comes to Medical Techniques, she's above him, that's not debatable. However, when it comes to the other aspects of Chakra Control, he's above her, and similarly, that really is not debatable. And yet, you and others seem to assume that this puts her above him in overall Chakra Control, something I'm having trouble understanding.

Anyways, feel free to look at it in any way you see fit. However, I can't say I agree with you on this one, frankly it doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

[htmwall]

both of them is good on their own way.
sakura having the byakugo means she has extreme chakra control over her own chakra,yet naruto has the best chakra control over a bijuu's chakra,naruto's control over his own chakra was horrible pre-timeskip,normal after it,and after having BM it got better,but still uncomparable to sakura's.
naruto has a great control over an enourmous amount of chakra(bijuu's).
sakura has an extreme chakra control over her own.

 

[Blaze Release]

Naruto is good but honesty Sakura takes it.
From the very beginning she was noted to have the best chakra control out of the three. Yes Naruto is a chakra control demon, but Sakura has greater hype and just as impressive feats as current naruto.

Shizune puts it nicely

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There is no right or wrong answer but the manga have given me more reasons to go with sakura

 

[Prince Charles]

Naruto is good but honesty Sakura takes it.
From the very beginning she was noted to have the best chakra control out of the three. Yes Naruto is a chakra control demon, but Sakura has greater hype and just as impressive feats as current naruto.

Shizune buts it nicely

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There is no right or wrong answer but the manga have given me more reasons to go with sakura

Don't see how you reached that conclusion, their chakra control methods serve different purposes in regarding to how they utilize it. Your going back to the part one and saying how she was noted to have the best out of the 3 while that may be true, shinobi grow as a whole and their skills increase within due time. Hype doesnt mean much when we look at both, but i guess it just comes down to ones opinion on the matter.

 

[Edo Odin]

both of them is good on their own way.
sakura having the byakugo means she has extreme chakra control over her own chakra,yet naruto has the best chakra control over a bijuu's chakra,naruto's control over his own chakra was horrible pre-timeskip,normal after it,and after having BM it got better,but still uncomparable to sakura's.
naruto has a great control over an enourmous amount of chakra(bijuu's).
sakura has an extreme chakra control over her own.

Look at this scan, specifically the part where it says 'Meld your Chakra with mine'. [

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This concludes that the Chakra Naruto has been using for the past few Chapters has not only been the Chakra of the Fox, but also his own, which pretty much negates your point about him not being good at controlling his own Chakra, seeing as he also distributed that to the Shinobi of the Alliance. Not to mention attacks like the Rasengan and the Rasenshuriken, and of course the Sage Mode, none of which have any relation to the fox at all. So, I guess it's been established, he can control his own Chakra exceptionally well too, his control is not only limited to the Chakra of the Fox.

 

[Blaze Release]

Don't see how you reached that conclusion, their chakra control methods serve different purposes in regarding to how they utilize it. Your going back to the part one and saying how she was noted to have the best out of the 3 while that may be true, shinobi grow as a whole and their skills increase within due time. Hype doesnt mean much when we look at both, but i guess it just comes down to ones opinion on the matter.

WHat would you say if i said both Tsunade and Sakura can use chakra transfer?. Doesn'tseem like a special ability to them like the seal on their forehead
So can Dan and Zetsu/ Yes its impressive but as Shizune a fellow medic ninja says not even she can do it and medic ninjutsu requires extreme chakra control.

As she put it Pinnace of chakra control. But there is no right or wrong answer

 

[Prince Charles]

WHat would you say if i said both Tsunade and Sakura can use chakra transfer?. Doesn'tseem like a special ability to them like the seal on their forehead
So can Dan and Zetsu/ Yes its impressive but as Shizune a fellow medic ninja says not even she can do it and medic ninjutsu requires extreme chakra control.

As she put it Pinnace of chakra control. But there is no right or wrong answer

Im fully aware tsunade and sakura to my understanding have shown to use chakra transfer but on the scale of how Naruto did is pure fan fiction at best. As for zetsu are you referring to when he replenished sasukes chakra during the war arc? That really isnt worth mentioning imo..

 

[Blaze Release]

Im fully aware tsunade and sakura to my understanding have shown to use chakra transfer but on the scale of how Naruto did is pure fan fiction at best. As for zetsu are you referring to when he replenished sasukes chakra during the war arc? That really isnt worth mentioning imo..

Scale?. Perhaps that is because naruto has a demon in him. Anyway yh to me sakura takes this

 

[siyo]

Naruto is good but honesty Sakura takes it.
From the very beginning she was noted to have the best chakra control out of the three. Yes Naruto is a chakra control demon, but Sakura has greater hype and just as impressive feats as current naruto.

Wut...

First of all, Naruto had a slow start due to Kurama. Second, just because Sakura had the best chakra control at one time (beginning of the freakin' manga), it doesn't mean the same is the case today.Convoluted logic.

 

[Blaze Release]

Wut...

First of all, Naruto had a slow start due to Kurama. Second, just because Sakura had the best chakra control at one time (beginning of the freakin' manga), it doesn't mean the same is the case today.Convoluted logic.

I've said my piece and tbh not interested in this too much to allow this to drag on and yh to me Sakura has this.
Yes i used hype from the very beginning, but this hype and been echoed from, beginning to current and as i said has just as much impressive feat. As i said there is no right or wrong answer, but to me Sakura has this

 

[Prince Charles]

Scale?. Perhaps that is because naruto has a demon in him. Anyway yh to me sakura takes this

Not only in regards to kurama but pulling the feat off in terms of matching each shinobi and making the end result compatible.