Perfect Jinchurriki's cannot break this genjutsu

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Being a perfect Jinchuuriki means the bijuu can disturb your chakra to snap you out of the genjutsu. As for Tsukuyomi, it being instant and all, I believe the bijuu can "shorten' or cancel out the effects of it, as shown through Bee and the Eight-Tails.
 

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Actually Itachi did fight a tailed beast, him and Kisame captured two or three of them I think, but it doesn't say whether or not he used Tsukuyomi.

Should be edited to perfect jin and thats what i meant
 

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maybe i missed something but where did it say that
basically the magna contradicts it'sself because it says that perfect host can be snapped out of genjutsu but it also says that tsuyki is unbreakable(i think)
bt based on logic no matter how strong a genjutsu is since it's only cast on one or the other (the host or the beast) then they should be able to snap each other out of it

When Tsukuyomi is used, it puts the victim in a genjutsu. The minds of both the Bijuu and the Host are not linked. So when Tsukuyomi is used the host goes into a genjutsu for 1 second but feels the 72 hours. The bijuu cannot do anything about it since in an instant its over.
 

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When Tsukuyomi is used, it puts the victim in a genjutsu. The minds of both the Bijuu and the Host are not linked. So when Tsukuyomi is used the host goes into a genjutsu for 1 second but feels the 72 hours. The bijuu cannot do anything about it since in an instant its over.

hah? why would their minds not be linked. it might work like that if there not already in bm but since they are i don't think you can seperate thier link, only put one under genjutsu. bee was never seperated so why would it break their link
 

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OP is right.

Itachi´s Tsukuyomi = 1 sec in real life equals 72hours for the victim.

Lets take Naruto for example. Kurama needs time to realizes that Naruto is under a genjutsu and also time to dispell it. Several seconds will pass before he will be able to do that.

We saw it in the Sasuke vs. Bee fight. Sasuke used a weak version of Tsukuyomi and Hachibi needed about 4sec-7sec to break the genjutsu, Hachibi is the 2nd strongest Bijuu.
So if the second strongest Bijuu needs 4sec-7sec is it realistic that the strongest will need LESS than 1sec? Not really.
Even if yes, 0,1sec of Itachi´s Tsukuyomi still equals 7,2hours of torture, enough time to even kill someone like Naruto. Itachi went easy with Kakashi, he just stabbed him with a Katana (there are !WAY! more terrible ways of torture) and even let him rest (fade away) several times.

Only a skilled Uchiha has a chance to avoid his Tsukuyomi, or freaks like Kabuto who dont need to use their eyes :D
 

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If the Tailed Beast is also in the Host's consciousness then it should be able to break the host out. Considering the fact that Bee could interact with Hachibi while he was under genjutsu I think that it can be broken.
 

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Ao saw through KA the strongest eye genjutsu by the colour of its chakra

Sasuke has a weak form of Tsukuyomi as to have Susanoo he must have Amaterseru and Tsukuyomi he also clinched his forhead and his eyes started bleeding a trademark of Tsukuyomi

The op said any sensor could sense ka . Obviously shee didnt. secondly if u had to have tsukiyomi and ametarasu to get susanoo then why doesnt madara have it ?
 

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Unfortunately we've never seen Tsukuyomi against a Perfect Jinchuriki, so i don't think there is a answer about this question
 

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The op said any sensor could sense ka . Obviously shee didnt. secondly if u had to have tsukiyomi and ametarasu to get susanoo then why doesnt madara have it ?

How do you know that Madara doesn't have it?
 

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What makes you think he does? certainly never seen him use it in manga !!! Data books that are not written by kishi doesnt count !

Kishimoto's databook did state that Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi were required for Susano'o
 

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Kishimoto's databook did state that Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi were required for Susano'o

Maybe but i have not seen it . Nor have i seen madara use ameterasu or tsukiyomi!!!! The only genjutsu madara used was clearly labeled sharingan genjutsu
 

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If you not a Uchiha with the Sharingan you can't break Itachi's Tsukuyomi, but you can break out of Sasuke's
 

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hah? why would their minds not be linked. it might work like that if there not already in bm but since they are i don't think you can seperate thier link, only put one under genjutsu. bee was never seperated so why would it break their link

No where does it state the host and the bijuu's minds are linked. Genjutsu affects the host and the bijuu has to break him out but if it happens instantly there's no time.
 

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How does one not use common sense and realize that the jutsu only takes 1 second to start and end, there's no way the tailed beast is canceling it that quickly.
 

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Naruto talked with all the bijuu at length in the tiny fragment of time it took him to pull chakra blades out of them. Time is extremely slow, bordering on non existent in the realm where bijuu and jinchuuriki meet and so the bijuu should always be able to react in time to end any illusion. Any argument here would be pointless because Naruto and Sasuke will fight and Naruto will break out of his genjutsu, which for the sake of the plot, will be better than Itachi's.
 
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