Naruto vs Madara (scenarios)

[Beans2]

1. Sage Mode Naruto vs EMS Madara (Madara can use only V2 Susanoo)

2. KCM Naruto vs Blind Madara (Madara can only use mokuton which he has shown)

3. BM Naruto vs Edo Madara

4. BSM Naruto vs VOTE Madara (100% Kurama is willingly helping Madara)

5. The Last BSM Naruto vs JJ Madara (1 Rinnegan, 1 MS)

6. Rikudou Naruto vs JJ Madara Double Rinnegan (IT restricted, Naruto has both seals)

 

[Bronze]

Madara wins low diff in every scenario.

 

[Lariatoo]

1. Madara med diff. He already blitzed him when was ressurected while stil blind and his Gunbai reflects any ranged attack.

2.Madara too. Wood dragon, Flower Tree world are haxedd. Plus he has shown to be able to use Susanoo even blind. Whitout Susanoo He probably loses tho.

3. Madara. He pretty much already did it in canon.

4.Hmm... Dunno.

5.Still havent watched the Last

6. Naruto wins. As explained by better debates than I.

 

[Transcendence]

1. Sage Mode Naruto vs EMS Madara (Madara can use only V2 Susanoo)

2. KCM Naruto vs Blind Madara (Madara can only use mokuton which he has shown)

3. BM Naruto vs Edo Madara

4. BSM Naruto vs VOTE Madara (100% Kurama is willingly helping Madara)

5. The Last BSM Naruto vs JJ Madara (1 Rinnegan, 1 MS)

6. Rikudou Naruto vs JJ Madara Double Rinnegan (IT restricted, Naruto has both seals)

1. EMS Madara wins this. He's faster and I don't see SM Naruto's FRS doing so much damage to obliterate even a V2 Susano'o. Unless this is War Arc SM Naruto, then a Chou Oodama FRS would likely obliterate his Susano'o.

2. Does Madara have Hashirama's SM here? He partially reacted to Tobirama's FTG with it, so if he has it, he'll win against KCM Naruto, but anything less and Naruto will either blitz him or overwhelm him with Rasenshuriken spam.

3. Naruto no more than mid difficulty.

4. I'd say Madara high difficulty, only because 100% Kurama can fire off 12 Flash Bijuu dama and Naruto at 50% has only showcased a max of 6 since BSM had half of Kurama.

5. Madara wins. No counter for Limbo here.

6. Naruto wins this medium difficulty. All that's needed were the seals. He overwhelms with Ashura Avatar spam and then seals Madara especially with no IT to worry about.

 

[Omar19992010]

1. Sage Mode Naruto vs EMS Madara (Madara can use only V2 Susanoo)

Pain Arc SM Naruto would loose while War-Arc SM Naruto would win.

2. KCM Naruto vs Blind Madara (Madara can only use mokuton which he has shown)

KCM Naruto wins. Deep forest bloom gets destroyed like in Cannon. Wood Dragon gets avoided via Naruto's Speed the only thing Naruto has to worry about is the 25 Wood Clones but that's not a problem when Naruto can make clones at the same level.

3. BM Naruto vs Edo Madara

Edo Madara wins this Mid-High Difficulty. Mokuton can hold Kurama avatar down for long enough for Madara to use Tengai Shinsei or use PS to slash at it and not to mention Naruto doesn't know any sealing Jutsu.

4. BSM Naruto vs VOTE Madara (100% Kurama is willingly helping Madara)

VOTE Madara wins Mid Difficulty. Perfect Susano'o + 100% Kyuubi overwhelms BSM Naruto whom I'm assuming is War-Arc.

5. The Last BSM Naruto vs JJ Madara (1 Rinnegan, 1 MS)

JJ Madara wins easily since Naruto has no counters to Limbo and not to mention Kamui.

6. Rikudou Naruto vs JJ Madara Double Rinnegan (IT restricted, Naruto has both seals)

By Feats Naruto would stomp but if you give Madara hypothetical feats it can be argued that he would win.

 

[ARGUS]

1. Sage Mode Naruto vs EMS Madara (Madara can use only V2 Susanoo)

Naruto wins

2. KCM Naruto vs Blind Madara (Madara can only use mokuton which he has shown)

could go either way

3. BM Naruto vs Edo Madara

Edo Madara wins this high/extreme diff

4. BSM Naruto vs VOTE Madara (100% Kurama is willingly helping Madara)

Madara wins this low/mid diff

5. The Last BSM Naruto vs JJ Madara (1 Rinnegan, 1 MS)

Naruto wrecks him

6. Rikudou Naruto vs JJ Madara Double Rinnegan (IT restricted, Naruto has both seals)

Naruto wins this high diff

 

[Zee U]

1. Naruto wins.
2. Naruto wins. Mokuryu shouldn't be a problem with big Rasengans and FRS attacking it from multiple sides. Jukai Koutan is destroyed as in canon, FTW may be a problem though considering he doesn't have intel on it. If he gets caught by the pollen he is done, but if he senses it he can destroy the forest with multiple COFRS.
3. Madara wins. After scaling, we know that Sasuke's slashes aren't enough to injure the avatar. But we also know that Madara's PS is better than Sasuke's, so Naruto has no way of putting it down considering his jutsus have very big AOE and he would get caught too. PS being more durable would result in it not being fully destroyed, unlike Bijuu Mode. Madara would kill him after the chakrazord spam.
4. Basically same as above, but full Kyuubi is in there too.
5. Madara wins due to Limbo.
6. Madara wins.

 

[KidGamer65]

1. Sage Mode Naruto vs EMS Madara (Madara can use only V2 Susanoo)

Madara should lose this one, don't remember V2 having a lower body.

2. KCM Naruto vs Blind Madara (Madara can only use mokuton which he has shown)

Madara wins. The Mokuton he's shown is enough to defeat

3. BM Naruto vs Edo Madara

Madara should win. More durable construct, (and the gap isn't small either based on the difference between Sasuke and Madara's PS) with more physical power, thus it'd dominate in close combat. Small Bijuu Dama can be physically deflected considering not only did BM Naruto do it, but Mokujin caught one, and PS matched Senpo Mokujin in physical strength.

4. BSM Naruto vs VOTE Madara (100% Kurama is willingly helping Madara)

Madara obliterates. Naruto would have enough trouble with an intelligent Kurama let alone Madara.

5. The Last BSM Naruto vs JJ Madara (1 Rinnegan, 1 MS)

Naruto should win.

6. Rikudou Naruto vs JJ Madara Double Rinnegan (IT restricted, Naruto has both seals)

Naruto should win, high diff at full power.

 

[Zee U]

Madara should lose this one, don't remember V2 having a lower body.

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Completely forgot about mass nature energy absorb in the last scenario. Naruto wins mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

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Completely forgot about mass nature energy absorb in the last scenario. Naruto wins mid diff.

That looks more like a V2 leveling up to V3 to me.

 

[RustledJimmies]

More durable construct

How in the world is Madara's PS more durable than the BM Avatar?

 

[UzumakiWade]

I dont understand the 4th one, the last naruto isn't bsm, its rsm.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Madara wins most of them.

 

[ARGUS]

How in the world is Madara's PS more durable than the BM Avatar?

Rikudo BM avatar = Rikuo sasukes PS
Remove Rikudo. And it's BM avatar = Sasukes PS
In terms of physical strength, durability and speed

Madaras PS > Sasukes PS
So his construct is more durable, and is physically stronger

 

[Zee U]

That looks more like a V2 leveling up to V3 to me.

It's indeed in the process of leveling into complete Susanoo, but his body is still skeletal. Though we don't know if it shares the mobility of upper forms, it just bones afterall.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Rikudo BM avatar = Rikuo sasukes PS
Remove Rikudo. And it's BM avatar = Sasukes PS
In terms of physical strength, durability and speed

Madaras PS > Sasukes PS
So his construct is more durable, and is physically stronger

You are right until the end of the first paragraph, but the only thing Madara's PS has shown to be superior to Sasuke's is DC, it being overall stronger than Sasuke's doesn't make all of its attributes superior. BM Avatar survived the Juubi's laser by sacrificing 6 of its tails, while the best tanking feats from Madara's PS is tanking a standard Bijuu Dama from Kyuubi and getting destroyed by Shinsuusenju.

 

[AmaniPaz]

Madara wins all bar the last due to the restriction

 

[ARGUS]

You are right until the end of the first paragraph, but the only thing Madara's PS has shown to be superior to Sasuke's is DC, it being overall stronger than Sasuke's doesn't make all of its attributes superior. BM Avatar survived the Juubi's laser by sacrificing 6 of its tails, while the best tanking feats from Madara's PS is tanking a standard Bijuu Dama from Kyuubi and getting destroyed by Shinsuusenju.

The amount of energy that susanoo could tank is directly proportional to its DC
Sasukes PS having more durability than madaras PS, despite the Latters PS having far superior DC makes no sense at all

As for the juubi beam, well naruto wrapped himself with his tails to protect himself
PS can do the same with it's arms/wings
If naruto tries to take the beam head on then it's GG especially when drop slam eradicated his BSM avatar

Not to mention that it took Chojo kobetsu (something that's stronger than 11 PS-TBB) to take out PS
And by feats CK should be superior to Juubi beam.
Seeing how going through 11 PS-TBB and busting PS is better than going through 9 and taking out the avatars tails

 

[KidGamer65]

How in the world is Madara's PS more durable than the BM Avatar?

What Kifflom said.

As for this:

You are right until the end of the first paragraph, but the only thing Madara's PS has shown to be superior to Sasuke's is DC, it being overall stronger than Sasuke's doesn't make all of its attributes superior. BM Avatar survived the Juubi's laser by sacrificing 6 of its tails, while the best tanking feats from Madara's PS is tanking a standard Bijuu Dama from Kyuubi and getting destroyed by Shinsuusenju.

The bold is exactly what that means. Sasuke may have a mobility advantage due to size, but that's it. We've already seen that the stronger the Susanoo, the more durable and the more destructive power it has. That's a fact.

BM Avatar had to wrap itself in it's tails and lost 6 of them to survive the Juubi Beam. It had the surface area to survive that attack, not the pure durability I should say. If it had taken that attack head on, it would've been obliterated. Not to mention I'm pretty sure that this

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right here is more destruction than the Juubi laser ever caused. VoTE was carved out by Chojo Kebutsu even after clashing with Madara's attack.

 

[TRE MERCER]

1. Sage Mode Naruto vs EMS Madara (Madara can use only V2 Susanoo)

Naruto rips his ass. Sound genjutsu complimented by a CFRS ruins him.​

2. KCM Naruto vs Blind Madara (Madara can only use mokuton which he has shown)

Once again Naruto pounds blind Madara. Standing Susanoo won't be enough and with restricted Mokuton feats won't help him either. Sound genjutsu stuns him and and CFRS obliterate his body.​

3. BM Naruto vs Edo Madara

Edo Madara low difficulty. Wood dragon already one shotted the BM Avatar. Madara Ps would destroy the BM Avatar that only last for about 8mins. Meteors,Wood Forest,Wood Dragons,Multiple Ps shockwaves means gg Naruto. PS cannonly tanked a Full Kurama tbb which>BM Kurama's tbb. Plus shockwaves intercept Bijuudama
s before they can even reach Ps.​

4. BSM Naruto vs VOTE Madara (100% Kurama is willingly helping Madara)

Madara takes. PS blades and Bijudama comes much faster than the 4 Bijuudama's in a Bijuudama barrage. Considering he sent 11 of them flying out in short order.(

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). And then there's the BM Avatar time limit.​

5. The Last BSM Naruto vs JJ Madara (1 Rinnegan, 1 MS)

Madara wins this only due to Kamui. With Kurama cloak alone put Kamui on the Juubi scale of sniping add the powers/chakra of a Juubi jin and Naruto has no chance of dodging especially if he gets close. Kurama avatar is useless because it far to large and slow to dodge being sniped. Plus there's Limbo and his full set of TSB's.​

6. Rikudou Naruto vs JJ Madara Double Rinnegan (IT restricted, Naruto has both seals)

Naruto stomps. No explanation needed here.​