You, fine sir, have found a bloody gold mine regarding Itachi and Jiraiya.If you do that paths chat about nagato and the paths and himself where the uchiha and senju are the two halfs of the sage etc.. Would be clear up alot threads here about that matter.
Also there's is very heated topic between jiraiya and itachi that I thiunk we all wouild like to cleared once and for all. There's a page from part 1 where itachi and kisame talk about Jiraiya how they wouldnt be able to face him.
I know there's alot errors with that one the current translation just doesnt make sense the sentence structure is all wrong english wise.
Thanks guys!
Tehehe, I'm on sick leave today and I have no life, so hit me with all you've got, I'll translate. :scorps:
You, fine sir, have found a bloody gold mine regarding Itachi and Jiraiya.You must be registered for see images
I'll edit the OP as soon as I gather it up. I couldn't find the raws or scripts of 144. I somehow found a raw vol 16 on a Japanese site, thought what the heck and downloaded it.
Good thing that I did...
I left a message on your profile fo what chapter and page it is.
chapter 144 page 8 it maybe on different page on another release.
Tell you what if do that translation that would be of great him to me as I have in deapth thread about that very conversation.
Thanks in advance if you manage to get it.
I'll go with this for an answer.But as others have stated before, since this is a convo from part one, so I don't consider it 100% fact. There are things that Kishi might not have come up with back then and therefore the comparisons of their strengths could be very different now. Most likely, Kishi had not thought of Sage mode nor Kisame's transformation with Samehada, so the battle could go very differently now. Basically, I'm just saying that I don't consider that convo to be 100% fact, but in general, I do think that Jiraya is better than Itachi or Kisame individually.
To add to Floydical's explanation, Itachi pre timeskip never revealed to anyone that his Sharingan could do such a thing or that he was affiliated with someone who had a Sharingan that could. :shrug:If the Sharingan can control the Kyuubi why would he say the results wouldn't change.![]()
There are 576 issues of Naruto at the moment and believe it or not I don't have the time to go through each and every issue, find the raws of them and translate them over again.Could you go through everything related to Tobi, Madara, Hashirama and Rikudou? All of Tobi's texts, someone talking about Tobi,Madara,Hashirama or Rikudou. Yamato, Orochimaru and others discussing Hashirama and his mokuton. Those ones >_<
I am sure there are plenty of mistakes. If you have time and desire to do this, it would be nice.
Edit : +rep, this thread deserves to be stickied.
Major, major, MAJOR mistake in chapter 144 regarding Itachi's quote about Jiraiya.You must be registered for see images
The above translation is way off.
Kisame - You could somehow win, but I couldn't stand up to such an opponent for more than a couple of minutes... It's on a completely different level.
Itachi - Ah... Either (we) both (he says both/two, meaning him and Kisame) would die, or it would be a draw... The result wouldn't change even if we increased our numbers.
Kisame - It was good that we found him at the ramen shop... And he has one of the Legendary Sannin as a lucky charm. That guy (Jiraiya) might be a fair match for the strongest Uchiha from Konoha and the Mist's strongest swordsman.
Itachi - Hmm, even so... It's said that every strong man has a weakness...
Kisame and Itachi were talking about the Kyuubi, not Jiraiya. Kisame brings the topic of Jiraiya up later on in the conversation and Itachi acknowledges that he's strong, but he says that he has a weakness. *girls girls girls*
It seems as if Kisame was babbling on about taking the Kyuubi on, that he couldn't do it more than a couple of minutes but Itachi would have a chance. Itachi states that they both wouldn't stand a chance of winning, even if they increased their numbers. Kisame states that it was lucky to find Naruto in the ramen shop but Jiraiya would pose a problem and Itachi just says; girls girls girls. <3