Madara>>>>> Nagato debatable ??

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i was surfing here on narutobase and i saw a thread that said nagato is stronger than current madara so here i am to prove it wrong . i ll mention some of madara s abilities
DOJUTSU

sharingan : madara is an extremly gifted shinobi who managed to master his Sharingan by a young age he was also an expert in genjutsu and was popular for his occular powers and he took control over kyuubi with his powerful genjutsu
he was the first uchiha to activate the mangekyou sharingan and then implanted Izuna's eyes into his own body, which then awakened eternal mangekyou wich guarantees him the use of amaterasu,Tsukuyomi and a powerful susano with a great defense and offense such as the blade he used from under the ground . his susano defense is very strong to an extent that even A attacks were useless against him . also madara is the first to read and understand the uchiha secrets so there s a big possibility that he can use izanagi , izanami and other techniques and it has been stated by kakashi that there s nothing impossible for the legandary uchiha
Rinnegan
After surviving the devastating battle against Hashirama, and escaping with a portion of his enemy's DNA madara took the sharingan to the ultimate level rinnegan . before his death he gave it to nagato as stated by tobi so we can assume that he can use all of the rinnegan powers . His meteorites technique was able to devastate much of the Fourth Division and it has a very big impact

TAIJUTSU and KENJUTSU
Madara has shown remarkable strength, speed, and reflexes. his taijutsu was also impressive he murdered many shinobis from the 4 division by just using his mastery in this area alone and at such speed, none of them could react
NINJUTSU
As an Uchiha, Madara is a master of Fire Release techniques HIS Fire Release: Great Fire Annihilation required the combination of numerous Water Release: Water Encampment Walls to extinguish
INTELLIGENCE
MADARA is clever and knows how and when to use a jutsu . he substituted a wood clone in place of his actual body in order to hide underground
EXPERIENCE
Madara has spent nearly all of his life fighting with powerful oppenents like hashirama so experience is on his side
CHAKRA
MADARA was born with a powerful and a very big chakra pool which even Kurama claimed to be far more sinister than that of its own
MOKUTON
after his fight with the shodai madara gained a portion of the first s dna with which he was able to use the Wood Release and we all know how powerful mokuton is being able to create a forest in seconds

conclusion
so how can nagato take on a monster which is the combination of ems madara , hashirama and nagato himself
 

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Edo Madara is Surely Powerful Than Nagato ...
 

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EMS Madara>Nagato
EMS rinengan MAdara>>Nagato
EDO Madara>>>>>NAgato
 

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Quote the person who said Nagato > Edo Madara, because I don't quite believe that someone actually said that.
 

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EMS Madara>Nagato
EMS rinengan MAdara>>Nagato
EDO Madara>>>>>NAgato

How?

Madara would win since he's got mokuton and ems abilities. But he wont be defeating Nagato easily.
 

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well, I think Nagato could well beat EMS Madara. But Madara with the rinnegan is clearly stronger, and as an edo tensei, he's in another league
 

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Madara is a beast and negato is a kitten compared to him
 

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Rinnegan Madara rapes Nagato. Won't say anything about EMS Madara before I know he's ablity
 

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I'm willing to bet that Nagato has more chakra than a non-edo Madara
 

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EMS Madara ? Nagato because we lack knowledge about the EMS' abilities.
Rinnegan Madara > Nagato because he can use both, Rinnegan and EMS.
Edo Madara >> Nagato.
 

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EMS Madara < Nagato
Rinnegan Madara(Without Mokuton) = Nagato cause I think it would be a stale mate cause of exact same abilities
Rinnegan Madara with Mokuton > Nagato.

I dont think Madara had Mokuton ability when he activated Rinnegan first time cause he died shortly after. :shrug:
 

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Ehhhhh as far as i can tell Madara>Nagato. If infact madara did unlock the rinnengan by his own means and Nagato was given the rinnengan, then imo madara would have a better ability at controlling the rinnengan. Madara is already a sick shinobi and imo can Beat nagato with mid difficulty. Edo Madara rapes tho
 

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What is with all these nagato,Pein,Madara threads today lol
 

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lol nagato fans so in love with him they think he invisible :p
i bet u if kishi made nagato lose to anyone they will come up with excuses like wht they did with itachi :p
 

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This isn't debatable. We don't know about the EMS' powers but we can say the Madara who awakened the Rinnegan is stronger, because Rinnegan + EMS is better than a single Rinnegan and Madara possesses imo just as much knowledge about the Rinnegan and its techniques like Nagato, because he studied its abilities already, for example by reading the plate of the Rikudo Sennin which describes the Rinnegans powers.

And Edo Madara with his Mokuton is anyway stronger.
 
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