[VS] Kisame vs. MS Sasuke (5 Kage Summit)

[Forbidden Technique]

:leaf: Aww man im having a hard time taking this guy seriously! TURNT UP

Whomp! Simmer down, because this counter ain't shit Zzz

he didnt use the sussano arrow right away against danzou because we obviously see him

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. We clearly see sasuke questioning danzou regarding the uchiha massacre as as you can clearly see Sasuke had no killing intent for danzou at that moment of time due to the fact that sasuke wanted to ask danzou questions! Sasuke had no reason to use the Sussano arrow because he knew it would kill danzo!

WRONG AGAIN. kakashi and sasuke don't start fighting

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Then a moment later sasukes

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Sasuke witnessed Ay's speed up close when he saw the raikage dodge amaterasu so logically sasuke knowing using sussano arrow would be useless.

This holds no weight, as Sasuke killing intent was activated the second he was finished questioning Danzou. He didn't use his Susano'o arrow until 2 chapters later into the fight.

Sasuke and Kakashi don't start fighting seriously you say? Despite Sasuke openly admitting he wants nothing more then to kill Kakashi? Well then thanks for furthering my point. If he didn't immediately begin the fight with susano'o arrow, despite being completely blood-lusted, what makes you think he will against Kisame? Furthermore, they obviously exchanged more then a few blows before Sasuke pulled out his Susano'o. As the fight started on top of the bridge [

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Kisame turning the field to water would be his worse mistake because he will be vulnerable to being electrified by sasukes raiton. We clearly see Sasuke is capable of running

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which will trace back to kisame through the water thus will make kisame

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Nice job forgetting about sasukes

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which will gain him high altitude as a counter to kisames large scales suiton techs.

Seems like you forgot Samehada absorbs chakra. The way

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makes it easy for Samehada to absorb, as it was shown to absorb lightning without a single problem [

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] Thus, making this a wasted effort for Sasuke, and in turn, only feeding Samehada with chakra.

I did actually forget about his hawk summoning, but what does he accomplish other then gaining aerial advantage? How does he harm Kisame with this. Kisame's stamina is near limitless, Sasuke isn't dodging forever.

Sasuke has already been shown to activate straight to his v3 sussano which allows him to shoot the arrows so stabilizing isnt an issue here.

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OWNED.

You're simply over exaggerating the aim and shooting process. The fact that kakashi had to resort to using kamui proves it doesn't take a lengthy time to anime nor shoot. I already showed you it be dangerous for kisame to use suiton techs when sasuke can counter with his raiton. Again you arent taking into consideration of sasukes hawk summon!

LMAO, Wrong.

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- Took place on the bridge

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- Took place on the water, which is under the bridge.

So, no, Sasuke has not shown to activate straight to his v3 Susano'o. And the fact that we didn't see what happens

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doesn't prove that I am over exaggerating with the aim and shooting process, especially since we have already seen this process with his fight against Danzou. Furthermore, Kakashi still had enough to time to activate his MS and use Kamui before the arrow even reached him [

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[Prince Charles]

are you always so obnoxious when countering people? ... Your also wrong on a few points but i really do not want to argue with you

all talk no action. if im wrong please counter my post or gtfo

obnoxious? haters gunna hate.

 

[Prince Charles]

Whomp! Simmer down, because this counter ain't shit Zzz




This holds no weight, as Sasuke killing intent was activated the second he was finished questioning Danzou. He didn't use his Susano'o arrow until 2 chapters later into the fight.

Sasuke and Kakashi don't start fighting seriously you say? Despite Sasuke openly admitting he wants nothing more then to kill Kakashi? Well then thanks for furthering my point. If he didn't immediately begin the fight with susano'o arrow, despite being completely blood-lusted, what makes you think he will against Kisame? Furthermore, they obviously exchanged more then a few blows before Sasuke pulled out his Susano'o. As the fight started on top of the bridge [

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] and Sasuke didn't activate his Susano'o until they were on the water [

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Seems like you forgot Samehada absorbs chakra. The way

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makes it easy for Samehada to absorb, as it was shown to absorb lightning without a single problem [

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] Thus, making this a wasted effort for Sasuke, and in turn, only feeding Samehada with chakra.

I did actually forget about his hawk summoning, but what does he accomplish other then gaining aerial advantage? How does he harm Kisame with this. Kisame's stamina is near limitless, Sasuke isn't dodging forever.



LMAO, Wrong.

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- Took place on the bridge

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- Took place on the water, which is under the bridge.

So, no, Sasuke has not shown to activate straight to his v3 Susano'o. And the fact that we didn't see what happens

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doesn't prove that I am over exaggerating with the aim and shooting process, especially since we have already seen this process with his fight against Danzou. Furthermore, Kakashi still had enough to time to activate his MS and use Kamui before the arrow even reached him [

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Please learn to read the manga! Obito clearly notices how

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which clearly explains why he had to preserve his chakra which explains the waiting of him using his sussano arrows. Smh the scan i just showed we clearly see sasuke collapse and his sussano deactivate which even further proves my point!


How can you possibly compare Bee's raiton enhanced sword to chidori nagashi which doesnt concentrate on a single but rather spreads out. Not too mention you fail to grasp that Bee's sword made direct contact with samehada which not only made it easier for samehada to abosrb it! This isnt the case with chidori nagashi where several points surrounding kisame are being breached.

LMAO, Wrong.

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- Took place on the bridge

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- Took place on the water, which is under the bridge.

So, no, Sasuke has not shown to activate straight to his v3 Susano'o. And the fact that we didn't see what happens

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doesn't prove that I am over exaggerating with the aim and shooting process, especially since we have already seen this process with his fight against Danzou. Furthermore, Kakashi still had enough to time to activate his MS and use Kamui before the arrow even reached him [

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To be fair EMS sasuke was capable of going straight to v3. Hardly any stabilizing. One could argue it was due to EMS but it still holds grounds here.

Exactly my point! He he resort to using a space time technque because his body was not fast enough nor capable of reacting to the arrow! Kakashi has shown better speed than kisame so what makes you believe kisame would be capable of evading the arrow?

I did actually forget about his hawk summoning, but what does he accomplish other then gaining aerial advantage? How does he harm Kisame with this. Kisame's stamina is near limitless, Sasuke isn't dodging forever.

Its not suppose to harm kisame its suppose to be a counter to escape kisames large suiton techs.

My apologies regarding the kakashi&sasuke encounter they did exchange blowsZzz

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Please learn to read the manga! Obito clearly notices how

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which clearly explains why he had to preserve his chakra which explains the waiting of him using his sussano arrows. Smh the scan i just showed we clearly see sasuke collapse and his sussano deactivate which even further proves my point!


How can you possibly compare Bee's raiton enhanced sword to chidori nagashi which doesnt concentrate on a single but rather spreads out. Not too mention you fail to grasp that Bee's sword made direct contact with samehada which not only made it easier for samehada to abosrb it! This isnt the case with chidori nagashi where several points surrounding kisame are being breached.

Yet, my point still stands. He resorted to using Amaterasu and Susano'o rather then using his Susano'o arrow which requires less chakra, seeing as he was able to fire a few of them without having to immediately deactivate his Susano'o.

You do understand that Samehada doesn't need to be in contact with whatever it is trying to absorb right? Whatever is chakra based within the vicinity of Samehada's absorption range will be absorbed. This is proven when Samehada rid Naruto of all his chakra with a single swipe [

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] and absorbed both of Bee's raiton infused sword, one of which never even came in contact with Samehada [

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] Also, Samehada has shown to absorb up to 6 tails worth of bijuu chakra, that's a lot more then any of Sasuke's raiton variants. With that being said, Chidori Nagashi will be absorbed soon as it gets within Samehada's absorption range.

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To be fair EMS sasuke was capable of going straight to v3. Hardly any stabilizing. One could argue it was due to EMS but it still holds grounds here.

Exactly my point! He he resort to using a space time technque because his body was not fast enough nor capable of reacting to the arrow! Kakashi has shown better speed than kisame so what makes you believe kisame would be capable of evading the arrow?

I did actually forget about his hawk summoning, but what does he accomplish other then gaining aerial advantage? How does he harm Kisame with this. Kisame's stamina is near limitless, Sasuke isn't dodging forever.

Its not suppose to harm kisame its suppose to be a counter to escape kisames large suiton techs.

My apologies regarding the kakashi&sasuke encounter they did exchange blowsZzz

Don't give EMS Sasuke feats of being able to spam MS techniques to MS Sasuke. Not even Itachi was able to do this. So EMS Sasuke being able to go straight to v3 Susano'o thus MS Sasuke should be able to as well doesn't hold ground in the slightest bit.

Actually, Kisame has great reaction speed. He was able to even overwhelm base Gai in CQC who is around the same speed as Kakashi. Not saying Kisame will be able to dodge Susano'o arrow, but your simply undermining him. As I already mentioned, Kisame can use his Daikodan before Sasuke can fire his arrow. Or the alternative, if Kisame so chooses to use Suiton Bakusui Shōha from the start, he can simply take shelter under water or use clone feints to avoid.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

He has to be able to make handsigns to pull off GSB, which isn't happening before an arrow goes through his chest. Not when Kakashi or Danzo couldn't make handsigns before it hit.

Also, Kisame is not gate speed.

Susanoo can't instantly evolve to V3, Sasuke's Arrow Mode, whereas GSB takes what, 3 handseals?

 

[thunderthehybrid]

Sasuke would win low-mid diff

 

[pateuvasiliu]

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three words.

Eternal.

Mangekyou.

Sharingan.

You showed me in a previous thread that you can't use V3 Susanoo instantly, trying to prove that Itachi blocked Kirin with a V2.

 

[KidGamer65]

three words.

Eternal.

Mangekyou.

Sharingan.

You showed me in a previous thread that you can't use V3 Susanoo instantly, trying to prove that Itachi blocked Kirin with a V2.

Yeah, I know I messed up on that scan.

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He activated it instantly here. And I showed you that Itachi couldn't activate his V3 Susanoo equipped with Yata Mirror instantly.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yeah, I know I messed up on that scan.

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He activated it instantly here. And I showed you that Itachi couldn't activate his V3 Susanoo equipped with Yata Mirror instantly.

I wanted to link that when you were telling me V3 cannot be used instantly back in that thread, but then I realised that Sasuke probably used it offpanel, while Naruto was PMSing about Itachi.

 

[KidGamer65]

I wanted to link that when you were telling me V3 cannot be used instantly back in that thread, but then I realised that Sasuke probably used it offpanel, while Naruto was PMSing about Itachi.

In the scan where we get a close up on Sasuke's face, you can't see Susanoo's aura behind him, but you can see it here after he uses it.

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Actually disregard this post. He can't activate V3 instantly.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

In the scan where we get a close up on Sasuke's face, you can't see Susanoo's aura behind him, but you can see it here after he uses it.

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I know. I took it as a plothole from Kishi - he simply forgot to draw the aura.

If they can use V3 at will, why would Madara, Sasuke and Itachi use something lower than it during the fight with the Kages / Kabuto?

 

[KidGamer65]

I know. I took it as a plothole from Kishi - he simply forgot to draw the aura.

If they can use V3 at will, why would Madara, Sasuke and Itachi use something lower than it during the fight with the Kages / Kabuto?

You're right. He can't use V3 instantly, just disregard my last post.

 

[Prince Charles]

god damn.. this is the first time in a while i've got owned like this :devil:

The victory is yours FT

no hating though.

 

[Gakido]

Wth? Sasuke can use his complete Susano'O instantly (

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). He's been using a lower form because its more effecient for the scenarios, he's needed the arrow. Which complete doesn't have.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Wth? Sasuke can use his complete Susano'O instantly (

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). He's been using a lower form because its more effecient for the scenarios, he's needed the arrow. Which complete doesn't have.

That's the EMS.

 

[Gakido]

That's the EMS.

You mentioned his fight with Kabuto.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You mentioned his fight with Kabuto.

Eh..

I really don't know. I really think Kishi never expected a bunch of people to dessicate every scan he draws.

I guess I could say the instant complete susanoo was to get some fangasms out of people. If he had to wait 10 seconds to pull out his biggest weapon it would have taken away from the epicness.

As an example, Naruto's Rasengan made a hole in that steel water plant but we never see people with a hole inside them when they are rasengan'd.

Some thing just happen because of plot.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

god damn.. this is the first time in a while i've got owned like this :devil:

The victory is yours FT

no hating though.

Always a pleasure bruh. Don't underestimate my boy Kisame

 

[Gakido]

Eh..

I really don't know. I really think Kishi never expected a bunch of people to dessicate every scan he draws.

I guess I could say the instant complete susanoo was to get some fangasms out of people. If he had to wait 10 seconds to pull out his biggest weapon it would have taken away from the epicness.

As an example, Naruto's Rasengan made a hole in that steel water plant but we never see people with a hole inside them when they are rasengan'd.

Some thing just happen because of plot.

Naruto characters durability and strength are far beyond that a human. I hope you know that, even Lee, who wasn't praised for his strength ripped a tree out of the ground.

And, once again. I must quote DemonicAvenger on the concept of plot "Whether you like it or not, it happened. Plot is everything, its the law in Naruto."

 

[pateuvasiliu]

And, once again. I must quote DemonicAvenger on the concept of plot "Whether you like it or not, it happened. Plot is everything, its the law in Naruto."

Then by that logic Sasuke can summon 1000 snakes since he summoned Manda with no chakra left.