Kakashi vs 8 gates Gai

[Rainbow Dash]

lmfao by feats, Gai still neg diffs kakashi

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Here you can see how tiny Madara's PS is compared to Juubito's barrier.

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Compaing the Shinju to the barrier, the barrier isn't even visible anymore.

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Lastly, you can clearly see that the shock wave of the Night Gai is as big as the tree's base.

The Juubi in his fat form can tank his own Bijuudama without a single scratch. Juubi Jins are a superior version of the Juubi, having all of their power focused in a small body. And there is nothing that even suggests that Kakashi's Susanoo is more durable than a Godoudama shield, the Juubi or Madara.

The direct hit would effortlessly rip through Kakashi's Susanoo, being able to inflict severe damage on Madara. Even if Kakashi can evade the direct hit, the shock wave of the Night Gai would seal the deal.

And what the hell, did I just post in this section?

 

[Jimihendrix]

@Kidgamer65

Enough hits until his body is damaged beyond repair? Right? Lel, you keep saying enough hits but not taking into consideration of the damage to his body from those
" enough hits"

And a bijuu dama and 8 gates attack type are clearly different, one is a focused penetration power base and the other is a massive explosion, 8tails took a bijuu dama but a sussano sword from edo madara was going to go right thru it if it wasnt for naruto.

Okay his manages to break a part of PS then what? Your implying he will destroy the whole ps body which is not happening.

He walks on air to get close to the top of ps?

Incoming ps swords and ps fists come his way.

@jimihendrix

Wtf are you talking about? Your telling me that claw attack naruto used on kaguya to rip her arm off is enough to take a ps arm?

Lel?

Edit- ps took a tbb from a 100 percent kurama just incase you forgot KG

that's exactly what everybody is ****ing saying. are you ****ing dense or some shit? ****ing troll

 

[Black Wolf]

Not sure why people are debating whether Gai can break Susano'o. Considering Evening Elephant punched right through the black matter element, and I'd assume that is more durable than Susano'o considering Madara resorted to it rather than Susano'o, I'd wager Gai can break through Susano'o too.

Gai's main issue here is hitting a Kakashi with the power to go intangible / camp in Kamui dimension.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Unlimited 8th gate... Let that sink in for a bit.

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[Prince Charles]

Night Guy did that to him, not Evening Elephant, which is what I'm talking about. Mostly.

what are you talking about? Im talking about the damage guy did to himself due to the 8 gates. Or are we on the same page here?

Anyway's if you mean the the elephant didnt have a tax on his body your totally wrong.

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They all deal damage at the end of the day. One exerted enough energy to smash the Truth Seeker Orbs while one failed to do so. Killer B took a Bijuu Dama and got wrecked, a stab from Madara isn't going to do that to him, especially since the 5 Tails stabbed him IIRC yet nothing too serious happened

Anyway's I have no reason to believe his elephant attacks can break through Ps just be he managed to break the truth seeking orb, especially when the truth seeking orb in terms of size and thickness is like an ant compared to PS.

Kakashi even had to warp a hole via kamui on the black sphere to help guy go through it.

the black goo was already tanking the elephant attacks anyways

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You guys came to the conclusion that with repeated attacks from guy using elephant he can break PS! just because he punched juubi jin madara and he went through that little black truth seeking ball sphere, you can't compare that!

PS has better defenses due to it's thickness and size

the black goo was still up even after all those elephant hits!

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He easily evades that and attacks it from the back

Then kakashi flies to get guy off his back

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it took this to remove some of sussano armor

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:l

EDIT -wow.. unlimited 8 gates? didnt see that part... thanks for the clarification Forbidden Trash, my vote may change now.. Maybe..

 

[MickNerks]

Wait Gai attacks are more powerful than Kaguya's?

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I didnt say Gai'a attacks were more powerful than Kaguya. I said his evening elephant generated more force than kaguya's chakra arm. That isnt saying that guys is more powerful than all her techniques

 

[Haizaki]

what are you talking about? Im talking about the damage guy did to himself due to the 8 gates. Or are we on the same page here?

Anyway's if you mean the the elephant didnt have a tax on his body your totally wrong.

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It does but he gets used to it and is able to fight while in Pain.

Anyway's I have no reason to believe his elephant attacks can break through Ps just be he managed to break the truth seeking orb, especially when the truth seeking orb in terms of size and thickness is like an ant compared to PS.

Do you think Hashirama's SS can destroy PS? If yes then EE can with no diff considering the crater they both made.

Kakashi even had to warp a hole via kamui on the black sphere to help guy go through it.

Yeah cuz Gai can't touch it.

the black goo was already tanking the elephant attacks anyways

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Well who knows? All we know was that it didn't help him and he created another one with his orbs.

This happened and we never saw it again. I'm unsure but EE gets stronger.

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the black goo was still up even after all those elephant hits!

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Didn't see it after a while but maybe it wasn't. Still there's a chance that was indeed destroyed.

 

[MickNerks]

Hopefully I can make this simple enough for most of you to understand.


It only took 4 simple chakra arm puches to destroy sasuke's Perfect Susanoo

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Might Guy's Evening Elephant has the same force if not more behind it (and the scale is larger), as you can see the huge crater that was created with ONE single punch:

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Madara states plainly that if he gets hit with 4-5 consecutive EE's he will be severely wounded and Madara has the Durability of the Juubi which is far greater than the durability of PS.

Kakashi getting hit with this, would not only destroy the susanoo, but the last step would crush every bone in Kakashi's body.

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[KidGamer65]

what are you talking about? Im talking about the damage guy did to himself due to the 8 gates. Or are we on the same page here?

The only damage Gai did to himself is

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. The rest of it wasn't damage from the Gates, and even if there was, he's already shown to use Evening Elephant continuously, so it doesn't matter.

Anyway's if you mean the the elephant didnt have a tax on his body your totally wrong.

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The Eighth Gate put him in Pain, but he said he got used to it, and was able to finish EE, all 5 steps, so that is also irrelevant.

Anyway's I have no reason to believe his elephant attacks can break through Ps just be he managed to break the truth seeking orb, especially when the truth seeking orb in terms of size and thickness is like an ant compared to PS.

An attack equal to 11 Bijuu Dama (Chojo Kebutsu) destroyed the whole of Perfect Susanoo's armor.

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from Evening Elephant does much more damage than a single one of those Bijuu Dama since the one his shield tanked was amped with Senjutsu. Gai can use 5 of those attacks in a barrage, and he can use it multiple times so that's 10-15 hits Gai can pull at a time, and it only took something equal to 11 weaker attacks to destroy Susanoo. Susanoo isn't taking that unscathed, it gets destroyed.

Kakashi even had to warp a hole via kamui on the black sphere to help guy go through it.

He only did that cause Gai can't touch it, as Minato stated, and because it'd be more effective to hit Madara directly. His punch packs the force to break it since it broke when he hit Madara through it.

the black goo was already tanking the elephant attacks anyways

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Not a direct hit, which is stronger than the indirect hits via Air Cannons.

You guys came to the conclusion that with repeated attacks from guy using elephant he can break PS! just because he punched juubi jin madara and he went through that little black truth seeking ball sphere, you can't compare that!

Yes I can, for the reasons stated above.

the black goo was still up even after all those elephant hits!

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Read above.

Then kakashi flies to get guy off his back

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Then Gai follows him.

 

[Yocolaw]

EE one shots kakashis susanoo to the face its not durable then the earth unless he can trans the susanoo

 

[elsepa]

Even after the biggest asspull in the manga Gai wrecks him

 

[Unorthodox]

to close to call

 

[Prince Charles]

Hopefully I can make this simple enough for most of you to understand.


It only took 4 simple chakra arm puches to destroy sasuke's Perfect Susanoo

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Might Guy's Evening Elephant has the same force if not more behind it (and the scale is larger), as you can see the huge crater that was created with ONE single punch:

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Madara states plainly that if he gets hit with 4-5 consecutive EE's he will be severely wounded and Madara has the Durability of the Juubi which is far greater than the durability of PS.

Kakashi getting hit with this, would not only destroy the susanoo, but the last step would crush every bone in Kakashi's body.

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Dude what? You left out a ton of factors.

First off do you not understand that sussano is chakra?

All chakra belongs to kaguya, obviously she destroyed sasuke's sussano quite easily because she can absorb any jutsu

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@Bold, Again how do people come to this? I already listed example of 2 juubi jin ( obito and kaguya ) getting wounded from attacks form naruto that would not leave a scratch on perfect sussano.

I won't deny Guy's elephant attack showed more power though but didn't her absorption abilities play a role too in destroying sussano so easily?

EE one shots kakashis susanoo to the face its not durable then the earth unless he can trans the susanoo

Dude seriously? So the ground is more durable can PS?
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It does but he gets used to it and is able to fight while in Pain.

His tolerance is not unlimited. But I was not aware in the op that it was unlimited...

Do you think Hashirama's SS can destroy PS? If yes then EE can with no diff considering the crater they both made.

I won't deny the crater it made no doubt, it's penetrative force is powerful, no debate their. But then again he made that crater in the ground which to my understanding is no way in hell more durable than PS. But I won't deny a few hits with EE I guess he would eventually brake PS.

Yeah cuz Gai can't touch it

Found the scan you have a point

Well who knows? All we know was that it didn't help him and he created another one with his orbs.

This happened and we never saw it again. I'm unsure but EE gets stronger.

Well His black orbs did protect him against the elephant needless to say

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The very first time ^

Which goes to show, if guy could create such a large crater in the ground then that little black shield should had been obliterated but it wasn't. So if EE couldnt destroy that why should I believe it will break such a heavy armor such as PS, well although after a few hits It would probably break PS.

Idk if I should reply to KG because he is trying to fabricate the manga.

 

[MickNerks]

Dude what? You left out a ton of factors.

First off do you not understand that sussano is chakra?

All chakra belongs to kaguya, obviously she destroyed sasuke's sussano quite easily because she can absorb any jutsu

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@Bold, Again how do people come to this? I already listed example of 2 juubi jin ( obito and kaguya ) getting wounded from attacks form naruto that would not leave a scratch on perfect sussano.

I won't deny Guy's elephant attack showed more power though but didn't her absorption abilities play a role too in destroying sussano so easily?

She puched sasuke's susanoo, she didnt absorb it. Now that I think about it, I cant recall kaguya absorb any of naruto's jutsu since the battle started.

 

[Prince Charles]

She puched sasuke's susanoo, she didnt absorb it. Now that I think about it, I cant recall kaguya absorb any of naruto's jutsu since the battle started.

The arms came within contact with sussano, it's possible absorption palyed a factor in sussano's demise.

She absorbed amaterasu

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[QdonEms]

Kakashi cant do both kamui at the same time. and gai blitz kakashi either way.

 

[MadaraReturns]

altho we havent seen kakashi's skills yet, i think gai wins.

 

[moihican]

Gai moved so fast juubi jin madara could barely react. Kakashi gets oneshotted

 

[xKiD SPiiD3rMaN]

I mean what stops Kakashi from just flying over Guy and using Kamui snipe?

I don't understand lol.

Plus if he has PS swords the slashes from that alone would be enough to end Guy as the radius of multiple slashes would be too wide to avoid even with his speed.

Furthermore, PS is so huge that Guy would be about the same size as Sakura was in comparison, which is about the size of a toy in the hand of a giant.

Plus I think people are forgetting two important things about DMS Kakashi. He's still going to have intangibility, and Guy has shown no attack capable of lasting 5 continuous minutes like Konan's explosion, and the speed of his Kamui will be doubled.

I don't see how Guy can win honestly, even with his destructive capability, he doesn't even come to the ankle of a PS standing on the ground not to mention, Kakashi can literally just fly above any range that Guy can reach.

 

[Haizaki]

I mean what stops Kakashi from just flying over Guy and using Kamui snipe?

I don't understand lol.

Sure. Gai would be there watching him activate his PS and fly without popping infront of him like he did here

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. Gai is more than fast enough to evade Kamui.

If he flies over him, the Gai kicks up the air like he did against Madara and uses EE. He's extremely fast considering this was the distance between them despite Madara's position in air

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and I showed you how close he got to Madara when he used EE

Plus if he has PS swords the slashes from that alone would be enough to end Guy as the radius of multiple slashes would be too wide to avoid even with his speed.

Lol I don't even know who said this would happen. Kakashi is not fast enough to hit Gai. Multiple slashes? Lol He gets fodderstomped.

You must think Gai is a worm.

Furthermore, PS is so huge that Guy would be about the same size as Sakura was in comparison, which is about the size of a toy in the hand of a giant.

Lol it maybe big but that doesn't mean it can't be destroyed.

Plus I think people are forgetting two important things about DMS Kakashi. He's still going to have intangibility, and Guy has shown no attack capable of lasting 5 continuous minutes like Konan's explosion, and the speed of his Kamui will be doubled.

He has intangibility but he gets blitz before he can even use it. Even if he goes intangible, Gai has intel and can attack with an indirect EE. If it passes through, Gai would know he's intangible. No kamui snipe here. Gai runs round

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and can stop behind him with knowledge that he's intangible. The second Kakashi opts to attack him since he has to be tangible to attack Gai, then Gai would know he's not intangible and would blitz the crap out of him.

Even asides that, If Kakashi tries to warp Gai, he has to solidify alerting Gai that he's tangible.

I don't see how Guy can win honestly, even with his destructive capability, he doesn't even come to the ankle of a PS standing on the ground not to mention, Kakashi can literally just fly above any range that Guy can reach.

SS destroyed PS and has less destructive force when compared to EE.