Kakashi vs 8 gates Gai

[Unorthodox]

so Gai is still superior to Kakashi eh

 

[Bogard]

No he isn't

Jubidara is physically as fast as 8 gated Gai:

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And he struggled to hit a weakened intangible Obito simply because speed matter less against intangibility

Naruto showed difficulties to dodge the chakra arms

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He even said they are insanely fast

And Naruto is faster than Eight Gated Gai, yet Kakashi(in his flying Susanoo) moved faster than an attack even him had difficulties to counter

By feats, Kakashi can easily react to 8 gated Gai, let alone turn intangible

Intangibility can be maintain during 5 minutes at a time. The second he can't use it can be replaced by a defense as hard as Perfect Susanoo that should at the very least be capable to defend against one 8 gated Gai's attacks and the cycle continues over and over, making it almost close to impossible to 8 gated Gai to actually hit Kakashi

Add into that the drawbacks of the 8 gates and Kakashi could snipe him anytime at that point

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No he isn't

Jubidara is physically as fast as 8 gated Gai:

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And he struggled to hit a weakened intangible Obito simply because speed matter less against intangibility

Naruto showed difficulties to dodge the chakra arms

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He even said they are insanely fast

And Naruto is faster than Eight Gated Gai, yet Kakashi(in his flying Susanoo) moved faster than an attack even him had difficulties to counter

By feats, Kakashi can easily react to 8 gated Gai, let alone turn intangible

Intangibility can be maintain during 5 minutes at a time. The second he can't use it can be replaced by a defense as hard as Perfect Susanoo that should at the very least be capable to defend against one 8 gated Gai's attacks and the cycle continues over and over, making it almost close to impossible to 8 gated Gai to actually hit Kakashi

Add into that the drawbacks of the 8 gates and Kakashi could snipe him anytime at that point

Thank you Bogard. Cuz i hate repeatin myself.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Guy after multiple uses of ee. Yet he still won't be able to touch kakashi.

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[Haizaki]

Bogard you're not making any sense at all

Jubbidara is physically as fast as 8G Gai. That scan makes no sense if that's even supposed to be a reason. He struggled to grab a weakened Obito's eye and nothing suggest his striking is speed is superior to Gai's. Nothing at all. If we're going by the fact that Obito was weakened. I'll also add Gai was weakened before he even used the 7G let alone the 8th.

Naruto struggled to evade that attack? Lol Please tell me we didn't see him punch his clone towards Sasuke saving them first before even trying to evade it.

Ok? Madara also said Gai was fast as well

Ok now you're saying Kakashi flying susanoo>> Naruto when it comes to speed simply because it came from an unknown distance which was off panel to save Sakura. He saved Sakura before Sasuke could teleport there. Guess that mean he's also superior to instant teleportation as well? What's next?

Kakashi by feats can easily react to Gai without intangibility. Lol this guy can't be serious.

Kakashi would be hit before he uses it. If he's using it, he can't use long range kamui while intangible. 5 mins is over and he comes and gets pounded. Without feats, you say his susanoo can take 8G attacks but yet with feats of Madara shown, you said this:

Assuming he really can use PS with one Rinnengan eye, yes i do believe he could burst it easily for the following reasons

We've already seen the strongest stage before Perfect Susanoo was completely demolished after a ram on the ground [

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And the crater result was pitful compared to the one created just by one punch of Gai in 8gates. Surely even with Perfect Susanoo, it would be completely be demolished by Gai's taijutsu.

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We've also seen he can break the onmyoudon sphere with sheer physical power, something that resisted the blast of 4Bijuudamas

His physical strength is simply outstanding in this state and nothing in Madara's arsenal in this match-up could really help

It's not for nothing Madara uses onmyoudon to defend himself rather than Susanoo because Susanoo would be useless here

Definition of being biased isn't it? Your reasons were flawed.


@BG Why are you showing me that scan for? I've dealt with that

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Naruto showed difficulties to dodge the chakra arms

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He even said they are insanely fast

Why you keep saying that likes its impressive.

Sakura dodged it the first time too

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[Bogard]

Jubbidara is physically as fast as 8G Gai. That scan makes no sense if that's even supposed to be a reason.

To me it's the case. They were comparably damaged during that off-panel battle when Jubidara was lacking almost all his defensive Gudodamas, so they were physically fighting on par. I already know you'll disagree with this however, so i won't bother explaining more. Just know that it's what i think

He struggled to grab a weakened Obito's eye and nothing suggest his striking is speed is superior to Gai's. Nothing at all. If we're going by the fact that Obito was weakened. I'll also add Gai was weakened before he even used the 7G let alone the 8th.

Doesn't matter. The fact remain someone physically as fast as 8 gated Gai failed against the intangibility, so saying 8 gated Gai would succeed is nothing but bias

Naruto struggled to evade that attack? Lol Please tell me we didn't see him punch his clone towards Sasuke saving them first before even trying to evade it.

It's the clone that punched Sasuke and Naruto, kicking them out of the way, not the way around, simply because they couldn't physically dodge it

Ok? Madara also said Gai was fast as well

And? Naruto is faster than them

Ok now you're saying Kakashi flying susanoo>> Naruto when it comes to speed simply because it came from an unknown distance which was off panel to save Sakura. He saved Sakura before Sasuke could teleport there. Guess that mean he's also superior to instant teleportation as well? What's next?

Oh now you're pulling off the unknown distance thing? Aren't you the bias one who was using those stupid feats to say 2 Gated Gai and Lee were faster than Gudodamas and Kamui?

Not to mention the distance matters less here. The chakra arm was close to crush her. Even if he was inches away from Sakura, he actually had to grab her and get away from the chakra arms. That's the actually speed feat here. He moved above the chakra arms before it actually hit Sakura despite it being inches away and thus making his flying Susanoo physically moving faster than them by feats

Kakashi by feats can easily react to Gai without intangibility. Lol this guy can't be serious.

Feats say otherwise

Kakashi would be hit before he uses it.

Fanfic, nothing more

If he's using it, he can't use long range kamui while intangible. 5 mins is over and he comes and gets pounded. Without feats, you say his susanoo can take 8G attacks but yet with feats of Madara shown, you said this:

And like i've said, he can use Susanoo anytime during the 5 minutes while he is intangible giving him a sufficient defense at the time to restart the intangible process anytime and in a continuous use, make all Gai's offensive attacks useless

Definition of being biased isn't it? Your reasons were flawed.

1- Kakashi's PS is more comparable to Sasuke's than Madara's. It's likely stronger
2- I said while back that Madara's defense would be crushed against Gai's attack, but i never said himself would be crushed. Only that his defense would momentarily disappear
3- I made that statement a while back. Opinions can be changed with time. At this point in time i'm not sure how many hits from EE would be enough to break PS considering a lower version of Susanoo allowed Sasuke to survive the crash of an arguably as big if not bigger crater(against Jubito)

@Ejblack

1- if she dodged it, good for her. It gives her good speed feat. It doesn't matter to me
2- She actually didn't. The chakra arm seen on the first panel is seen from an above position. It's actually farther ahead from Sakura than what it seems to be on panel. On the second panel, it became closer

 

[KCN]

kakashi low-mid diff. PS is one argument, double kamui is another. kakashi can now phase through anything so what will Gai do when kakashi does this behind him

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And snipes his head off?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Bogard you're not making any sense at all

Jubbidara is physically as fast as 8G Gai. That scan makes no sense if that's even supposed to be a reason. He struggled to grab a weakened Obito's eye and nothing suggest his striking is speed is superior to Gai's. Nothing at all. If we're going by the fact that Obito was weakened. I'll also add Gai was weakened before he even used the 7G let alone the 8th.

Naruto struggled to evade that attack? Lol Please tell me we didn't see him punch his clone towards Sasuke saving them first before even trying to evade it.

Ok? Madara also said Gai was fast as well

Ok now you're saying Kakashi flying susanoo>> Naruto when it comes to speed simply because it came from an unknown distance which was off panel to save Sakura. He saved Sakura before Sasuke could teleport there. Guess that mean he's also superior to instant teleportation as well? What's next?

Kakashi by feats can easily react to Gai without intangibility. Lol this guy can't be serious.

Kakashi would be hit before he uses it. If he's using it, he can't use long range kamui while intangible. 5 mins is over and he comes and gets pounded. Without feats, you say his susanoo can take 8G attacks but yet with feats of Madara shown, you said this:




Definition of being biased isn't it? Your reasons were flawed.


@BG Why are you showing me that scan for? I've dealt with that

Cuz that's what guy is gonna look like after the so called "multiple ee's" that's when he gets sniped.

 

[Haizaki]

To me it's the case. They were comparably damaged during that off-panel battle when Jubidara was lacking almost all his defensive Gudodamas, so they were physically fighting on par. I already know you'll disagree with this however, so i won't bother explaining more. Just know that it's what i think

Ok it's you opinion so I can't change it. I disagree simply because damage doesn't mean their on the same level. Not when Madara was more damaged and unknown factors could come into play. From what we saw Gai was faster. It's your opinion so I'll respect it.

Doesn't matter. The fact remain someone physically as fast as 8 gated Gai failed against the intangibility, so saying 8 gated Gai would succeed is nothing but bias

Disagreed with.

It's the clone that punched Sasuke and Naruto, kicking them out of the way, not the way around, simply because they couldn't physically dodge it

Oh but the clone could physically move to them and punch both even though the arms were already moving despite the distance between the clone and them

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.Not like Sasuke couldn't have teleported if the clone could move during that. That doesn't suggest they didn't have the speed too dodge it.

Oh now you're pulling off the unknown distance thing? Aren't you the bias one who was using those stupid feats to say 2 Gated Gai and Lee were faster than Gudodamas and Kamui?

Lol You were also arguing against it but now you're using it here. Lol

Not to mention the distance matters less here. The chakra arm was close to crush her. Even if he was inches away from Sakura, he actually had to grab her and get away from the chakra arms. That's the actually speed feat here. He moved above the chakra arms before it actually hit Sakura despite it being inches away and thus making his flying Susanoo physically moving faster than them by feats

Ok you're sticking to that logic. Therefore you agree Gated Gai and Lee >>> Kamui and Goodama

Feats say otherwise

Ok

Fanfic, nothing more

Your opinion. Nothing More.

And like i've said, he can use Susanoo anytime during the 5 minutes while he is intangible giving him a sufficient defense at the time to restart the intangible process anytime and in a continuous use, make all Gai's offensive attacks useless

Till manga supports this, I disagree. I doubt he can do that. Too damn haxed.

1- Kakashi's PS is more comparable to Sasuke's than Madara's. It's likely stronger
2- I said while back that Madara's defense would be crushed against Gai's attack, but i never said himself would be crushed. Only that his defense would momentarily disappear
3- I made that statement a while back. Opinions can be changed with time. At this point in time i'm not sure how many hits from EE would be enough to break PS considering a lower version of Susanoo allowed Sasuke to survive the crash of an arguably as big if not bigger crater(against Jubito)

-Your opinion
-Ok but So far his PS is stronger so Kakashi would be crushed.
- Ok I respect that. The crater wasn't as deep as that of EE I'm sure.

@Ejblack

1- if she dodged it, good for her. It gives her good speed feat. It doesn't matter to me
2- She actually didn't. The chakra arm seen on the first panel is seen from an above position. It's actually farther ahead from Sakura than what it seems to be on panel. On the second panel, it became closer

But she started moving when it was closer. Does that mean she's >> Narut and Sasuke in terms of speed? Nope.

 

[Jimihendrix]

Gai stomps neg U_U

all he has to do is starve out Kakashi for 5 minutes (which I believe he can do without the condition mentioned above) if kakashi is being a *****. Kakashi lacks the reaction time, reflexes, durability, speed, etc feats to survive once his only defense (kamui) runs out. And yes, this is even assuming Kakashi's perfect susanoo can go intangible.

P.S. Perfect Susanoo is overhyped

 

[Prince Charles]

Lol tf am I reading, kakashi negs, PS defence is too strong.

Guy shattered his leg when he kicked madara using 8 gates, lel constant attacks on ps using 8 gates will damage his body more.

 

[Jimihendrix]

Kakashi ass-wipes him with the lowest levels of difficulty. He is faster thanks to his dual Kamui, and he was even faster than Sasuke's teleportation. His Susanoo has the cutting power to slash mountains, far greater striking force than Gai's attacks. If we give Madara's defensive feats, he tanks everything Gai throws. Kakashi literally curb-stomps him so badly.

Juubi Madz tanking feats are gonna be given to a MS Kakashi??

You know, I was having fun with this whole kakashi thing earlier in the day, but now everyone is just being ****ing retarded about it. Know his limits. He's not beating Kaguya, Juubi Madz, Naruto, and 8th Gate Gai. Sasuke I can see thanks to his cooldown, but if Sasuke's hyped speed (still slower than god Naruto) is faster than Kakashi's striking speed, then he shouldn't have a problem dodging any kamui snipe and should be able to keep on the pressure long enough for his cooldown to lift and assassinate kakashi, like when Obito and Mianto fought.

So yeah, take Kakashi's **** outta your mouth

 

[Jimihendrix]

Lol tf am I reading, kakashi negs, PS defence is too strong.

Guy shattered his leg when he kicked madara using 8 gates, lel constant attacks on ps using 8 gates will damage his body more.

I'm willing to guarantee a juubi jin's body is more durable than PS, especially after Kaguya fodderized it with a few punches and naruto tanked it (he has the senjutsu of the sage with Juubi jins have)

 

[Prince Charles]

I'm willing to guarantee a juubi jin's body is more durable than PS, especially after Kaguya fodderized it with a few punches and naruto tanked it (he has the senjutsu of the sage with Juubi jins have)

I don't think so, juubi jin obito took a rasegan to the back from sm naruto and it left a mark.

Naruto took kaguyas arm, i would love to see naruto use that same attack he used to rip off kaguyas arm on PS and ps wouldnt have a scratch.

 

[Jimihendrix]

I don't think so, juubi jin obito took a rasegan to the back from sm naruto and it left a mark.

Naruto took kaguyas arm, i would love to see naruto use that same attack he used to rip off kaguyas arm on PS and ps wouldnt have a scratch.

NOW I KNOW YOU'RE ON CRACK.

One of those and the fight will be over, the PS user would be dead.

EDIT: one tail of bijuu mode Naruto fodderized Madz v4 susanoo.

I'm scared to think what an upgraded naruto would do to a perfect susanoo (something that's been shown before the hagoromo power ups)

 

[KidGamer65]

Guy would break PS open with enough hits of Evening Elephant. His Truth Seeker Orbs tanked Naruto's Bijuu Dama, and Evening Elephant's direct hit is strong enough to completely smash it in one strike, so its comfortably above the power of a standard Bijuu Dama enhanced with Senjutsu. The 5 steps should do moderate damage. A repeated use of them would destroy Susanoo.

Night Guy is way stronger, so it probably goes right through Susanoo.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

They're equals once again.

 

[Prince Charles]

@Kidgamer65

Enough hits until his body is damaged beyond repair? Right? Lel, you keep saying enough hits but not taking into consideration of the damage to his body from those
" enough hits"

And a bijuu dama and 8 gates attack type are clearly different, one is a focused penetration power base and the other is a massive explosion, 8tails took a bijuu dama but a sussano sword from edo madara was going to go right thru it if it wasnt for naruto.

Okay his manages to break a part of PS then what? Your implying he will destroy the whole ps body which is not happening.

He walks on air to get close to the top of ps?

Incoming ps swords and ps fists come his way.

@jimihendrix

Wtf are you talking about? Your telling me that claw attack naruto used on kaguya to rip her arm off is enough to take a ps arm?

Lel?

Edit- ps took a tbb from a 100 percent kurama just incase you forgot KG

 

[KidGamer65]

@Kidgamer65

Enough hits until his body is damaged beyond repair? Right? Lel, you keep saying enough hits but not taking into consideration of the damage to his body from those
" enough hits"

Night Guy did that to him, not Evening Elephant, which is what I'm talking about. Mostly.

And a bijuu dama and 8 gates attack type are clearly different, one is a focused penetration power base and the other is a massive explosion, 8tails took a bijuu dama but a sussano sword from edo madara was going to go right thru it if it wasnt for naruto

They all deal damage at the end of the day. One exerted enough energy to smash the Truth Seeker Orbs while one failed to do so. Killer B took a Bijuu Dama and got wrecked, a stab from Madara isn't going to do that to him, especially since the 5 Tails stabbed him IIRC yet nothing too serious happened.

Okay his manages to break a part of PS then what? Your implying he will destroy the whole ps body which is not happening.

With enough hits to enough areas, yes, he will be able to destroy its torso, once that is gone, it falls apart. Or he can open a hole and attack Madara from inside.

He walks on air to get close to the top of ps?

Incoming ps swords and ps fists come his way.

He easily evades that and attacks it from the back.

Edit- ps took a tbb from a 100 percent kurama just incase you forgot KG

Yeah, a standard one. Pretty sure the Senjutsu Bijuu Dama Naruto used is at least as strong as that, and Evening Elephant's direct hits are even stronger than that, and Gai can string together a barrage of them.