Jiraya was not as good a teacher as other Sannins....

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Well in his defense, Naruto had difficulty with his chakra control (sakura was a genius at that, and sasuke had the sharingan) and lost control of his consciousness when he'd exert himself too much, allowing kurama's chakra to seep out.

The fact that he was actually able to teach him new variants if the rasengan and better chakra control are success stories in and of themselves.
 
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Unfortunately, this is true......
Lets see:-

1. Under his guidance Orochimaru Sasuke....

> learned different variants of Chidori and mastered nature manipulation.
> Mastered his 3-Tomoe Sharingan.
> His speed increased exponentially.
> He learned swordsmanship and was given "The Sword of Kusanagi".
> Summoning Jutsu.
> Knowledge about seals and scrolls.
> Curse Seal.

2. Under Tsunade's guidance Sakura....

> Learned better chakra control.
> Become one of the best Medical ninja around.
> Became insanely and brutally strong.
> According to latest manga she also learned something so incredible that can take her to Naruto and Sasuke's league. This will probably counter summoning advantage of Naruto.(Although i seriously doubt it)

3. Under Jiraya's guidance Naruto....

> Rasengan and its big and large versions.
> The advise to stay away from Genjutsu.
> A little bump in speed and strength.
> A little knowledge about use of clones.
> Summoning.

We can see the difference....
In part 1 Naruto was far better than Sakura and Sakura was no better than a fodder ninja.
In the beginning of part 2 she became as skilled as Naruto. All those times near the begging of part 2, Naruto seemed better than Sakura because he was strong willed and had incredible chakra reserves. It was not because of his training.

MY EXPECTATIONS....

Naruto left to train with the legendary sannin Jiraya for 3 years. He should have had at least high jonnin skills when coming back.
> Jiraya should have helped Naruto to gain more control over the 9-tails power.
> Jiraya should have helped Naruto to master nature manipulation like Kakashi did and helped him create a Jutsu such as Rasenshuriken.

Its no secret that in the beginning of Part 2 Naruto was A-B level Ninja. (due to increase in power scale by Kishi)
It would have been awesome if Jiraya taught Naruto Sage Mode in the 3 years time gap. He was able to learn in the 4th year in 3 weeks time, he must be capable of learning it in the 3 years time gap.
-How cool it would have been to see Naruto use a little part of Nature energy in form of SM as a last resort against Sasuke. He would have looked like a boss.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
COMMENT BELOW....
HaHaHa... sory i like jiraya but you are right man actually he was busy with nasty women hahaha.

he didn't teach him how to master nature manipulation, even when sage mode was most needed to naruto he didn't teach him i think he could teach him some of minato's jutsu but other side oro fulfil sasuke wish to be strong

but, what jiraya taught naruto i think thats enough. he taught him main important things how a shinobi should be lived even he full filled naruto's parents duty he gave him love ,he full filled his duty as grandpa he acknowledged him and that's all

actually naruto was not smart like sasuke sakura, they learn by reading book but naruto learn by practicing so it takes time... even jiraya tried to teach him to be rely on himself and whenever he taught him jutsu he didn't give the all details so that naruto can figure out all by himself(Ex:Rasengan) and that makes the user expert.
 

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actually naruto was not smart like sasuke sakura, they learn by reading book but naruto learn by practicing so it takes time... even jiraya tried to teach him to be rely on himself and whenever he taught him jutsu he didn't give the all details so that naruto can figure out all by himself(Ex:Rasengan) and that makes the user expert.
only sakura learn via book... sasuke not show his book learnings
 

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LOOL!!!
You are so wrong...
Naruto out of three developed the most under Jiraiya's tutelage...

Orochimaru taught Sasuke some techniques...
Tsunade perfected Sakura's basics...

But
Jiraiya not only taught Naruto some techniques and perfected his basics, he also taught him how to learn w/o teacher and paved a way for Naruto so that he can become what he is now...

That makes him the best ever mentor so far in NV...
 

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Sakura and Sasuke don't have a tail beast in them now do they? You act like taming Kurama is easy work for Orochimaru and Tsunade, well they would have had the same trouble as Jiraiya and the same results. And of all 3 students because of Kurama Naruto is the most powerful student of all. Sasuke and Sakura are not in His league at all.
 

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jiraya showed Naruto the power of Talk no jutsu So Naruto now Has the greatest power of thous 3 he was the greatest teacher.......
 

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Unfortunately, this is true......
Lets see:-

1. Under his guidance Orochimaru Sasuke....

> learned different variants of Chidori and mastered nature manipulation.
> Mastered his 3-Tomoe Sharingan.
> His speed increased exponentially.
> He learned swordsmanship and was given "The Sword of Kusanagi".
> Summoning Jutsu.
> Knowledge about seals and scrolls.
> Curse Seal.

2. Under Tsunade's guidance Sakura....

> Learned better chakra control.
> Become one of the best Medical ninja around.
> Became insanely and brutally strong.
> According to latest manga she also learned something so incredible that can take her to Naruto and Sasuke's league. This will probably counter summoning advantage of Naruto.(Although i seriously doubt it)

3. Under Jiraya's guidance Naruto....

> Rasengan and its big and large versions.
> The advise to stay away from Genjutsu.
> A little bump in speed and strength.
> A little knowledge about use of clones.
> Summoning.

We can see the difference....
In part 1 Naruto was far better than Sakura and Sakura was no better than a fodder ninja.
In the beginning of part 2 she became as skilled as Naruto. All those times near the begging of part 2, Naruto seemed better than Sakura because he was strong willed and had incredible chakra reserves. It was not because of his training.

MY EXPECTATIONS....

Naruto left to train with the legendary sannin Jiraya for 3 years. He should have had at least high jonnin skills when coming back.
> Jiraya should have helped Naruto to gain more control over the 9-tails power.
> Jiraya should have helped Naruto to master nature manipulation like Kakashi did and helped him create a Jutsu such as Rasenshuriken.

Its no secret that in the beginning of Part 2 Naruto was A-B level Ninja. (due to increase in power scale by Kishi)
It would have been awesome if Jiraya taught Naruto Sage Mode in the 3 years time gap. He was able to learn in the 4th year in 3 weeks time, he must be capable of learning it in the 3 years time gap.
-How cool it would have been to see Naruto use a little part of Nature energy in form of SM as a last resort against Sasuke. He would have looked like a boss.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
COMMENT BELOW....
Uhm no. Sasuke already had a kkg. Orochimaru simply helped him master them. Doubt Orochimaru taught Sasuke anything apart from seals and summoning. He most likely trained and developed all those chidori variations himself.
Also the three years Naruto spent with Jiraiya was focused on teaching him how to control the fox's power and mastering "that jutsu", which he couldn't. That's why it seemed like Naruto hadnt progressed after the 3 year gap. However that training is paying off now that he's mastered the fox's power.
 

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Tsunade's students - Shizune, Sakura. Nuff said.
Orochimaru's - Sasuke, Sound 5. Only one student living right now....
Jiraiya's students - Minato, master of S/T justu and ended up saving the entire shinobi alliance in one move. Naruto, defeated one of the most powerful people ever in the series and was responsible for the resurrection for nearly the entire village. Also responsible for saving the lives of multiple ninja from the alliance as well.

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Tsunade's students - Shizune, Sakura. Nuff said.
Orochimaru's - Sasuke, Sound 5. Only one student living right now....
Jiraiya's students - Minato, master of S/T justu and ended up saving the entire shinobi alliance in one move. Naruto, defeated one of the most powerful people ever in the series and was responsible for the resurrection for nearly the entire village. Also responsible for saving the lives of multiple ninja from the alliance as well.

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u forget about nagao/yahiko and konan!jirayia is best sensei ever!
 

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Sorry but the latest chapter proves that all Sannins were on pair with the trainings. So you are kind of wrong here.
Kishi put all of them on equal foot.
 
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If anything Naruto got something Sakura and Sasuke will never have the beginning training for that Jutsu,the taming and partnership Naruto has with Kurama and the power it brings Making Naruto go beyond Sannin level and Sannin training. Orochimaru and Tsunade don't have that to train Sasuke and Sakura. The Sannins were eual in power but you can't say Sakura and Sasuke are equal to Naruto who is in class all by Himself and still hasn't reach His pick in power as the SO6P.
 

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If anything Naruto got something Sakura and Sasuke will never have the beginning training for that Jutsu,the taming and partnership Naruto has with Kurama and the power it brings Making Naruto go beyond Sannin level and Sannin training. Orochimaru and Tsunade don't have that to train Sasuke and Sakura. The Sannins were eual in power but you can't say Sakura and Sasuke are equal to Naruto who is in class all by Himself and still hasn't reach His pick in power as the SO6P.
But that has nothing to do with teaching. That is Naruto's Kurama power.
By that logic, Jiraiya should've been a good teacher just because Naruto had Kurama?
No, it has nothing to do with it.
It has to do with teaching, instructing so on and so forth.
Kishi made it pretty clear. All Sannins are equal in power and mastery, and teaching their students.
 

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But that has nothing to do with teaching. That is Naruto's Kurama power.
By that logic, Jiraiya should've been a good teacher just because Naruto had Kurama?
No, it has nothing to do with it.
It has to do with teaching, instructing so on and so forth.
Kishi made it pretty clear. All Sannins are equal in power and mastery, and teaching their students.
Yes it dose Jiraiya began the process of teaching Naruto how to use Kurama's chakra, He failed but thats something Orochimaru and Tsunade never had to deal with and Jiraiya like Minato pass on the scroll to Naruto something Orochimaru and Tsunade never,I say never had to deal with.
 

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Yes it dose Jiraiya began the process of teaching Naruto how to use Kurama's chakra, He failed but thats something Orochimaru and Tsunade never had to deal with and Jiraiya like Minato pass on the scroll to Naruto something Orochimaru and Tsunade never,I say never had to deal with.
Well did you think that it wasn't supposed to be them for a minute? It's called plot.
That doesn't make them less capable as senseis.
 

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Ehhh.... I don't know... What you're saying make sense, but remember who poorly Naruto was at the end of the first part? Jiraiya did improve Naruto a good deal. But he also had to wander around constantly, get information on both Orochimaru and Akatsuki.

That, and he also passed on his will and dream to Naruto. Their time spent together means much more than any other sannin and pupil.

Also. . Training Naruto to master the Kyuubi is a hard thing, he almost died doing it to the extent we've seen in the early parts of Shippuden. . . I'unno, I dislike thinking that Jiraiya is lower or not as good as his comrades.
 
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