Hiruzen vs Kisame

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Kisame he can absorb ninjutsu Hiruzen has no genjutsu and taijutsu feats.
 

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Kisame he can absorb ninjutsu Hiruzen has no genjutsu and taijutsu feats.

No taijutsu feats??? That explains how managed to wield Enma's Diamond staff and utilize it against Orochimaru, plus he held of the other 2 hokages using taijutsu. His taijutsu and genjutsu in the databooks are 5
 

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No taijutsu feats??? That explains how managed to wield Enma's Diamond staff and utilize it against Orochimaru, plus he held of the other 2 hokages using taijutsu. His taijutsu and genjutsu in the databooks are 5

Are you talking about how they kicked his ass in taijutsu. If were going by the age he was aganist Orochimaru he had a hard time holding enma. That's databook hype. Not that taijutsu on Hiruzen's level is going to make a difference aganist Kisame.
 

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Kisame he can absorb ninjutsu Hiruzen has no genjutsu and taijutsu feats.

He is said to have over 1000 Genjutsu's in his arsenal.

Plus he was keeping up with Both Edo hokages in Taijutsu while Planting explosive tags without Oro even realising.
Even forcing Oro back and getting the better of him in close combat.
 

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He is said to have over 1000 Genjutsu's in his arsenal.
deidara is said to have killed sasuke. sasuke is said to have beaten zabuza.

Plus he was keeping up with Both Edo hokages in Taijutsu while Planting explosive tags without Oro even realising.
would real hokages not notice?
 

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Hiruzen, adamantine staff ftw
 

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hmm God of shinobi or a rogue jonin..hmmm i wont lie kisame is beast but cmon lets be serious
 

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Everything Hiruzen has Kisame counters. Enma is really irrelavant with an ocean as a battlefield
 

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Everything Hiruzen has Kisame counters. Enma is really irrelavant with an ocean as a battlefield

Eh no. Nyoi bo can push Hiruzen and Kisame apart easily, or be pointed at the ground to escape the bubble. Hiruzen's Doton prevents Kisame from being able to make an ocean battlefield in the first place.
 

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Eh no. Nyoi bo can push Hiruzen and Kisame apart easily, or be pointed at the ground to escape the bubble. Hiruzen's Doton prevents Kisame from being able to make an ocean battlefield in the first place.

Have you seen the volume of Kisames water Jutsus?
 

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It would be a close fight but if this is old Hiruzen than Kisame will suck him dry without much difficulty.
 

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Hiruzen.

Old would have a hard time. But he has trained and fought the best Soiton user in manga so he more than likely can fight against it.

And wasn't he able to use all releases?

That means lightning right?
 

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Old would have a hard time. But he has trained and fought the best Soiton user in manga so he more than likely can fight against it.
no hes never fought kisame.

And wasn't he able to use all releases?
no. jiraiya said child nagato being able to was wholly unprecedented. and the way he said it meant nagato remained the only one who could besides kakuzu
 
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