Hiruzen vs Gengetsu

[Beans2]

Location: Madara vs Gokage
Intel: None
Distance: 30 meters
Restrictions: Reaper Death Seal

Both are alive and at the height of their power but can only use feats they've shown.

 

[Gagster]

Hiruzen easily, without his genjutsu Gengetsu is at a serious disadvantage. Hiruzen also counters his Water style.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Hiruzen mid diff at most.

 

[Izanamı.]

Hiruzen wins mid-high diff i think.

 

[Conspirator.]

Trollkage should win,

 

[V h o]

How does hiruzen stop the genjutsu?

 

[DMT]

How does hiruzen stop the genjutsu?

Neutralize it , lel

 

[FemmeFatale]

Hiruzen spits lighting at him and he dies.

 

[DMT]

^^^ Gengetsu uses Genjutsu to counter that shit

 

[MickNerks]

Hiruzen's sense of

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. He could easily locate a clam that smelt like seafood with the same method and crush it with enma.

Hiruzen wins with Mid Diff at most

 

[BLAZE]

Hiruzen mid diff

 

[Char Aznable]

Clam solos.

Trollkage 4 life

 

[Lariatoo]

Hiruzen mid diffs.

 

[Nattana]

Hiruzen couldn't even dispel Fodder Hashirama's Bringer of Darkness without resorting to RDS. There's no way he's getting past Clam Genjutsu.

Gengetsu wins.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Hiruzen couldn't even dispel Fodder Hashirama's Bringer of Darkness without resorting to RDS. There's no way he's getting past Clam Genjutsu.

Gengetsu wins.

Enough with this crappy counter, that I hear from you every time Hiruzen match up's encounter genjutsu. Not only is it irrelevant to the match up, since no one isn't even arguing on dispelling with "Kai", but it also completely ignores Hiruzen's situation he was in, that couldn't have him defeat Hashirama genjutsu in the first place. Plus the fact that your making stuff up, that nothing even implies Hashirama's genjutsu was fodder.

 

[Nattana]

Enough with this crappy counter, that I hear from you every time Hiruzen match up's encounter genjutsu. Not only is it irrelevant to the match up, since no one isn't even arguing on dispelling with "Kai", but it also completely ignores Hiruzen's situation he was in, that couldn't have him defeat Hashirama genjutsu in the first place. Plus the fact that your making stuff up, that nothing even implies Hashirama's genjutsu was fodder.

Bringer of Darkness isn't fodder Genjutsu, but P1 Edo Hashirama was fodder, so the effect of his Genjutsu was fodder-level as well. There's no discussing that.

If he could, he would've dispeled BoR the moment Hashirama used it, but he couldn't. Which clearly shows how pathetic Hiruzen is when it comes to Genjutsu.

One may argue that Hiruzen's sense of smell may be helpful here, but the moment Hiruzen is caught in Genjutsu, it's not going to be him on the offense but Gengetsu.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Bringer of Darkness isn't fodder Genjutsu, but P1 Edo Hashirama was fodder, so the effect of his Genjutsu was fodder-level as well. There's no discussing that.

Its not a discussing base on the fact that you made that claim up. P1 Edo Hashirama was Kage level, fact. You have no proof that they're other levels of BoD's on use. No discussion.

If he could, he would've dispeled BoR the moment Hashirama used it, but he couldn't. Which clearly shows how pathetic Hiruzen is when it comes to Genjutsu.

Not when your premise/reason on why Hiruzen couldn't break, which is false and not base on manga. DB gave Hiruzen a perfect score of Genjutsu so once again nothing you are saying is even close to being supported by manga. Plus it has been implied many times that Hiruzen's aged nerfed him.

One may argue that Hiruzen's sense of smell may be helpful here, but the moment Hiruzen is caught in Genjutsu, it's not going to be him on the offense but Gengetsu.

So? That's what clones are for. Regardless, I wasn't even here to argue on Hiruzen or Gengetsu behalf. I just need to address your reasoning thats completely off to give someone a win.

 

[xFrostxx]

Hiruzen wins.

 

[super yang]

a kage from shippuden not named hashirama? ...Hiruzen wins by feats.

 

[Nattana]

Its not a discussing base on the fact that you made that claim up. P1 Edo Hashirama was Kage level, fact. You have no proof that they're other levels of BoD's on use. No discussion.

And? His Mokuton was fodder-level compared to what he could do in his normal state. There's literally 0 reason to believe that Genjutsu wasn't affected by P1 Edo Tensei power scaling.

Not when your premise/reason on why Hiruzen couldn't break, which is false and not base on manga. DB gave Hiruzen a perfect score of Genjutsu so once again nothing you are saying is even close to being supported by manga. Plus it has been implied many times that Hiruzen's aged nerfed him.

And? Databook score means nothing when it's not backed up with feats. Orochimaru also had 5 in Genjutsu but he got fodderized by 3T Illusion. It took him like 9 years to develop resistance. And Hiruzen's age nerfed his vitality and chakra reserves, not his skills lol.

So? That's what clones are for. Regardless, I wasn't even here to argue on Hiruzen or Gengetsu behalf. I just need to address your reasoning thats completely off to give someone a win.

Lol, the moment clones are used they are caught in Genjutsu along with original Hiruzen. And about the rest - okay. Do what you want.