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Sasuke used the jutsu this chapter.
the thought bubble about how his eye wasn't ready yet said otherwise.

You guys don't understand something , that isn't strong against Kaguya ! Because Kaguya is .....
But Madara would be dead against that ...
except .

Sasuke's eye is clearly superior as it's not limited to dimensions. Sasuke can Teleport as long as anything is within Range. Not only that, he can manipulate the swapping. All I remember is Minato's arms getting chopped off because of his so-called superior ability. FTG is practically shitty now, if compared to the latest speed feats.
Sasuke was only able to dimension jump with it because of the Kamui hole dude. If he could dimension jump with that tech, he wouldn't have been stuck in that desert for as long as he was.

Sasuke doesn't require an object and ftg cannot work without prior seals and markings. The user needs to place it himself while sasuke doesn't need that, next time try not to be biased. Ftg is not flawless or else madara won't have countered it so easily, its major weakness is its need for seals or kunais, countered ftg is much easier than countering sasukes jutsu(once in range). Let's put things in perspective here.
your argument is just as biased, because Sasuke's isn't flawless either. Madara countered it about as easily as he did FTG, and it barely took him 5min at the most to do it. The marked kunai isn't even that big of a weakness either. It simply sucked for Minato that Madara was already familiar with the technique, he had the reflexes to counter it, and that it was near impossible to sneak atk him. It's been shown by Madara and Kaguya that going up against an opponent with high lvl reflexes is a weakness of all t/s jutsu of that sort, not just 1.
 
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in the last weak there were many discussion about this.

and i think this chapter confirmed FTG >> sasukes left eye




sasukes power up with this prep time aucks enorm f..cking lame

Well think of it this way, Minato said Obito's Kamui was better than his FTG and look what happened; smarts and skills allowed Minato to beat a S/T jutsu he claimed to be better. FTG is a jutsu, how the user uses it also counts a lot as well.

He's been using his teleportion for some time now and we don't know if this is due to him jumping from other dimensions.

OT: unfortunately, ftg is still inferior to his left eye.

Sasuke had to close his eye for a whole chapter after using is Rinnegan eye against Madara, he had it close while Madara went to Obito's dimension and even kept it close after Madara came back. He opened it after Sakura charged Madara and almost died, he charged Madara while Naruto saved Sakura.

I agree. Like I said in another thread, If I had to choose I would surely like to fight against FTG user rather than Sasukes s/t jutsu user.

It may be useless as transportation jutsu, but its battle abilities are OP.

Sasuke can't use it that much and if his opponent have greater foot speed/reflexes then they can dodge him as A dodged Amaterasu when it ignites where Sasuke is staring. MS Sasuke's speed couldn't react to lvl 2 lightning Armor A, so anyone with speed greater than Sasuke or a S/T jutsu themselves have high chances of not falling for Sasuke's S/T. There's also the part where Sasuke have to see his target so jutsus like hidden mist, cloud ninja's shining light jutsu they used on the Juubi, wind style dust cloud would all make that harder. There's also earth jutsus that can make the land scape rise and cover the field or use of shadow clones.

For FTG, both users are sensors, have greater foot speed than Sasuke (both beat Sasuke to the War when they all left at the same time) and can use their FTG in different ways. FTG allows Minato or Tobirama to FTG whatever they chakra touches or is connected too; what if Tobirama use water jutsu to cover the field? He can then FTG wherever his water reaches or FTG what is touching his water since his water jutsu is created by his chakra. He's played a support type and only used 2 water jutsu since he was revived; he didn't even mention edo tensei until recently.

Actually, we have no clue whether he was trying to teleport that entire time. Clearly he was looking for a way out and/or searching for Naruto as he sensed his chakra. Assuming Sasuke's teleportation travels through its own dimension, I don't how it could work to begin with. If I remember correctly, S/T can't work in another's dimension, hence Obito trying to wrap Minato, Minato not teleporting to Naruto.

Kish needs to explain the reason exactly.

Sasuke said "Nothing I do... works.. [pants]" and this was before he sensed Naruto since Naruto's clone didn't go to the core dimension to afterwards . Sasuke said his S/T jutsu is instant, that means it has no dimension of its own just like FTG doesn't; you go from A to B while Obito goes A to B to C after he warps from 1 place to another. A being where he was to B being his dimension to C being where he wanted to go.

Minato can't warp to Naruto since their chakra were merged with Naruto (yang Kurama) and Minato (Yin Kurama) and now Naruto is getting his chakra from Yin Kurama. Kurama can make his chakra into his Jinchuuriki's chakra, this is what Yang Kurama did and is why Shi, a sensor, said the kyuubi's chakra...No, Naruto's chakra. Also why Sasuke, Oro and co all sensed Naruto's chakra which Oro said instead of the 9 tails.

Like how Obito was able to warp thru Kaguya's, I think Minato could have done the same but in Obito's case, when he Kamui, he goes to the other dimension which Minato would be waiting so in Obito case, he could FTG to him as he Kamui out and go with him. Since Kamui differ from Kaguya's S/T jutsu.

What I don't get is...why sasuke didn't just stay in the other dimension long enough to let his eye recover. I guess Obito needed a badass way to die.
I see your sasuke hate is strong as ever. What happens if sasuke fights any ftg user? That's what I thought. Keep crying in your corner.

Because they needed to get Sasuke back to Naruto who was buying time, Naruto and Sasuke are both needed to beat Kaguya and they weren't going to have Naruto solo fight a god that much long in case he gets killed. You want Sasuke to fight any FTG user who are not only faster in foot speed but are sensors and have instant S/T jutsus themselves? That would be one of Sasuke's worst match since FTG have more use than just moving around and can be used along with their other jutsus.

FTG allows them to go where their chakra is or is connected to; Tobirama alone can cover the field in water and FTG anywhere his water jutsu is since it's made from his chakra just like their mark is made from their chakra. Being on the Water will let Tobirama FTG Sasuke to him just like how Sasuke's S/T jutsu work but on a greater ranger. Tobirama have been made a supporter and only did 2 water jutsu, plus being Edo's means their stats are weaker than when they're alive.

Is there any FTG user alive? Oh yeah my boy Genma but he can't do it like Minato or Tobirama.

Threads like this keep the sasuke "hate" alive. You can't beat him with your fav char (unless its Kaguya juubi jin Madara or Naruto because they are equals) so you try to belittle his techniques.

FTG got Minato arm taken off and kicked with a rasengan in hand that hit kakashi. FTG got tobirama fodderized by SM Madara. Sasuke S/T jutsu fodderized Juubi Jin Madara twice...But everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

Actually both Minato and Tobirama can beat Sasuke in a S/T and speed battle if they were solely relying on those jutsu and jutsus that augment their S/T jutsus. Both have greater base speed/reflexes, are sensors, have higher intellect and analyzing skills.

You know your examples suck since those are Edo Tensei's which hever lower stats than when they're alive; Alive Minato>Edo Minato and Alive Tobirama>Edo Tobirama. Madara himself said Tobirama was hailed as the fastest of their time but he couldn't access his full power now; he said this after he pinned Tobirama down so go look if you don't believe me. Also I guess you're forgetting the important fact that Madara not only have knowledge of how FTG works, her have experiences fighting a FTG user (Tobirama). He had no knowledge on Sasuke's S/T jutsu at first but after he did he didn't fall for it again did he? When he got his other eye Sasuke's S/T jutsu didn't even have a chance to be used because at first Sasuke had to rest his eyes and Madara knew enough to stay out of the range when Sasuke opened his Rinnegan.

Madara praised Tobirama's alive speed, Tobirama praised Minato's Edo speed as being faster than his edo, Alive Minato would be faster than Alive Tobirama.

Alright lets see, a battle between an FTG user and Sasukes S/T,

Base Minato and Tobirama are no where near the top/god tier in the NV,
yet sasukes S/T jutsu enabled him to shit on JJ Madara, the same guy who shat on FTG with utmost ease,

FTG is better in terms of range, but in terms of combat and skill, Sasukes S/T jutsu is far superior to FTG


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Alive Base Minato took on A (kage) and Bee (prefect Jin) more than once and enough for A to say he thought he would never be surpassed and enough for Bee to Tremble at the mention of Minato by Naruto in their training. Tobirama is on a higher level than Kage with Izuna, EMS Madara, and Hashirama. Sasuke's S/T jutsu was unknown and caught Madara by surprise, Madara wasn't at his full power nor foughtas seriously as he can, only had 1 eye which makes half his side a blink side.

Madara had knowledge of how FTG works and knowledge of FTG fighting style plus both FTG users were Edo Tensei which means they are weaker in stats than when they are alive; Madara when revived shown greater speed than Edo Madara. Sasuke also had to close his eye after Madara went to Kamui dimension and kept it closed even after Madara came back a chapter later and opened it after Sakura was stabbed and he charged Madara).

In combat, FTG can FTG attacks on Juubi level of power. In Skills it can beat a S/T Jutsu that is better than it itself (Minato stated Obito Kamui was better than his and see how that ended up). FTG can also be used with other jutsus; say I fill the field with water jutsu, I can FTG anywhere or anything that the water reach/touches. Minato already explain FTG works by teleporting wherever or whatever his chakra is or is connected to. Water jutsus are created by the user chakra just like the FTG marks so it would work on a much greater scale that way. Using this combo would let the user FTG anyone to them or go anywhere the user is as long as they are on or near the water which covers the battle field.
 

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the thought bubble about how his eye wasn't ready yet said otherwise.

except .

Sasuke was only able to dimension jump with it because of the Kamui hole dude. If he could dimension jump with that tech, he wouldn't have been stuck in that desert for as long as he was.

your argument is just as biased, because Sasuke's isn't flawless either. Madara countered it about as easily as he did FTG and it barely took him 5min at the most to do it. The marked kunai isn't even that big of a weakness either. It simply sucked for Minato that Madara was already familiar with the technique, he had the reflexes to counter it, and that it was near impossible to sneak atk him. It's been shown by Madara and Kaguya that going up against an opponent with high lvl reflexes is a weakness of all t/s jutsu of that sort, not just 1.
bold is dumb as i dont remember saying his jutsu is flawless. i was responding to a post listing all ftgs advantages and neglecting its disanvantage.
minato or tobirama couldnt scratch madara when they used it, he countered them without getting any sort of hit. on the other hand sasuke had impaled him, then used it to strike him from both ends with naruto, in order words sasuke jutsu allowed him get "hits" on madara something the frg users failed at. madara replacing himself with limbo is not countering it easily likw you said because he was hit, he was actually pressed which is why he had to switch with his limbo. he wasnt close to being pressed by the ftg users so dont equate the two situations.
its a disadvantage because he cant teleport without placing that mark and his teleportation is limited only to were he marks. someone can spot such marks or kunai and prepare a counter like raikage did. sasukes jutsu leaves a slim window of a counter. no you are wrong, madara and kaguya exceed sasuke in reflexes yet they fell prey to his jutsu and utilized their occular powers, they couldnt even physically move their body before they were hit, that is how deadly sasukes jutsu is.madara had no advantage in that battle hence he fled. him being familiar is not an excuse, minato still coulnt escape the pounding, he just couldnt react to madara, sasuke could.
 

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all i need to know: ftg hasn't been portrayed as needing prep time, whereas sasuke's rinnegan has.

based off that, ftg >

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Well think of it this way, Minato said Obito's Kamui was better than his FTG and look what happened; smarts and skills allowed Minato to beat a S/T jutsu he claimed to be better. FTG is a jutsu, how the user uses it also counts a lot as well.



Sasuke had to close his eye for a whole chapter after using is Rinnegan eye against Madara, he had it close while Madara went to Obito's dimension and even kept it close after Madara came back. He opened it after Sakura charged Madara and almost died, he charged Madara while Naruto saved Sakura.



Sasuke can't use it that much and if his opponent have greater foot speed/reflexes then they can dodge him as A dodged Amaterasu when it ignites where Sasuke is staring. MS Sasuke's speed couldn't react to lvl 2 lightning Armor A, so anyone with speed greater than Sasuke or a S/T jutsu themselves have high chances of not falling for Sasuke's S/T. There's also the part where Sasuke have to see his target so jutsus like hidden mist, cloud ninja's shining light jutsu they used on the Juubi, wind style dust cloud would all make that harder. There's also earth jutsus that can make the land scape rise and cover the field or use of shadow clones.

For FTG, both users are sensors, have greater foot speed than Sasuke (both beat Sasuke to the War when they all left at the same time) and can use their FTG in different ways. FTG allows Minato or Tobirama to FTG whatever they chakra touches or is connected too; what if Tobirama use water jutsu to cover the field? He can then FTG wherever his water reaches or FTG what is touching his water since his water jutsu is created by his chakra. He's played a support type and only used 2 water jutsu since he was revived; he didn't even mention edo tensei until recently.



Sasuke said "Nothing I do... works.. [pants]" and this was before he sensed Naruto since Naruto's clone didn't go to the core dimension to afterwards . Sasuke said his S/T jutsu is instant, that means it has no dimension of its own just like FTG doesn't; you go from A to B while Obito goes A to B to C after he warps from 1 place to another. A being where he was to B being his dimension to C being where he wanted to go.

Minato can't warp to Naruto since their chakra were merged with Naruto (yang Kurama) and Minato (Yin Kurama) and now Naruto is getting his chakra from Yin Kurama. Kurama can make his chakra into his Jinchuuriki's chakra, this is what Yang Kurama did and is why Shi, a sensor, said the kyuubi's chakra...No, Naruto's chakra. Also why Sasuke, Oro and co all sensed Naruto's chakra which Oro said instead of the 9 tails.

Like how Obito was able to warp thru Kaguya's, I think Minato could have done the same but in Obito's case, when he Kamui, he goes to the other dimension which Minato would be waiting so in Obito case, he could FTG to him as he Kamui out and go with him. Since Kamui differ from Kaguya's S/T jutsu.



Because they needed to get Sasuke back to Naruto who was buying time, Naruto and Sasuke are both needed to beat Kaguya and they weren't going to have Naruto solo fight a god that much long in case he gets killed. You want Sasuke to fight any FTG user who are not only faster in foot speed but are sensors and have instant S/T jutsus themselves? That would be one of Sasuke's worst match since FTG have more use than just moving around and can be used along with their other jutsus.

FTG allows them to go where their chakra is or is connected to; Tobirama alone can cover the field in water and FTG anywhere his water jutsu is since it's made from his chakra just like their mark is made from their chakra. Being on the Water will let Tobirama FTG Sasuke to him just like how Sasuke's S/T jutsu work but on a greater ranger. Tobirama have been made a supporter and only did 2 water jutsu, plus being Edo's means their stats are weaker than when they're alive.



Actually both Minato and Tobirama can beat Sasuke in a S/T and speed battle if they were solely relying on those jutsu and jutsus that augment their S/T jutsus. Both have greater base speed/reflexes, are sensors, have higher intellect and analyzing skills.

You know your examples suck since those are Edo Tensei's which hever lower stats than when they're alive; Alive Minato>Edo Minato and Alive Tobirama>Edo Tobirama. Madara himself said Tobirama was hailed as the fastest of their time but he couldn't access his full power now; he said this after he pinned Tobirama down so go look if you don't believe me. Also I guess you're forgetting the important fact that Madara not only have knowledge of how FTG works, her have experiences fighting a FTG user (Tobirama). He had no knowledge on Sasuke's S/T jutsu at first but after he did he didn't fall for it again did he? When he got his other eye Sasuke's S/T jutsu didn't even have a chance to be used because at first Sasuke had to rest his eyes and Madara knew enough to stay out of the range when Sasuke opened his Rinnegan.

Madara praised Tobirama's alive speed, Tobirama praised Minato's Edo speed as being faster than his edo, Alive Minato would be faster than Alive Tobirama.



Alive Base Minato took on A (kage) and Bee (prefect Jin) more than once and enough for A to say he thought he would never be surpassed and enough for Bee to Tremble at the mention of Minato by Naruto in their training. Tobirama is on a higher level than Kage with Izuna, EMS Madara, and Hashirama. Sasuke's S/T jutsu was unknown and caught Madara by surprise, Madara wasn't at his full power nor foughtas seriously as he can, only had 1 eye which makes half his side a blink side.

Madara had knowledge of how FTG works and knowledge of FTG fighting style plus both FTG users were Edo Tensei which means they are weaker in stats than when they are alive; Madara when revived shown greater speed than Edo Madara. Sasuke also had to close his eye after Madara went to Kamui dimension and kept it closed even after Madara came back a chapter later and opened it after Sakura was stabbed and he charged Madara).

In combat, FTG can FTG attacks on Juubi level of power. In Skills it can beat a S/T Jutsu that is better than it itself (Minato stated Obito Kamui was better than his and see how that ended up). FTG can also be used with other jutsus; say I fill the field with water jutsu, I can FTG anywhere or anything that the water reach/touches. Minato already explain FTG works by teleporting wherever or whatever his chakra is or is connected to. Water jutsus are created by the user chakra just like the FTG marks so it would work on a much greater scale that way. Using this combo would let the user FTG anyone to them or go anywhere the user is as long as they are on or near the water which covers the battle field.

lol wut? i hate it when people overwank characters. smh
 

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Sasuke was only able to dimension jump with it because of the Kamui hole dude. If he could dimension jump with that tech, he wouldn't have been stuck in that desert for as long as he was.

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bold is dumb as i dont remember saying his jutsu is flawless. i was responding to a post listing all ftgs advantages and neglecting its disanvantage.
bold is dumb because i never said you said it was flawless. That statement was clearly me leading into the flaws of Sasuke's jutsu. What makes it even worse is that you are telling a bold faced lie, because in you clearly say:
Sasuke doesn't require an object and ftg cannot work without prior seals and markings. The user needs to place it himself while sasuke doesn't need that, next time try not to be biased. Ftg is not flawless or else madara won't have countered it so easily, its major weakness is its need for seals or kunais, countered ftg is much easier than countering sasukes jutsu(once in range).
You clearly point out the use of seals, markings, the user having to place the mark, and Madara being seen countering FTG, all while making Sasuke's jutsu out to be better. You also go on to talk about putting things in perspective and not making biased arguments, but the whole point of your post was to denigrate FTG in the process of putting Sasuke's jutsu on a pedal as if it had no flaws. Therefore, you yourself lacked perspective while saying the person you responded to needed to have some.


minato or tobirama couldnt scratch madara when they used it, he countered them without getting any sort of hit. on the other hand sasuke had impaled him
not that it's much of a difference, but he used the sword to do that along with the speed Madara was already coming at him with when he attempted to take his eye. I'm not disputing that Madara got hit, only that he didn't get struck to the lvl in which ppl exaggerate.
, then used it to strike him from both ends with naruto, in order words sasuke jutsu allowed him get "hits" on madara something the frg users failed at.
this is all kinds of wrong, because what Naruto and Sasuke hit was a clone.
madara replacing himself with limbo is not countering it easily
it is in fact countering it easily, because he didn't expect it but he was still able to react to it, otherwise he would've got sealed up.
likw you said because he was hit, he was actually pressed which is why he had to switch with his limbo. Madara was never hit. Sasuke he wasnt close to being pressed by the ftg users so dont equate the two situations.
Madara was never hit, because Sasuke can clearly be seen saying Madara used a clone to take that shot in his place.
its a disadvantage because he cant teleport without placing that mark and his teleportation is limited only to were he marks.
and Sasuke can't teleport any further than a set distance and has a cd. The fact that FTG can be spammed and has no distance limits in and of itself makes it better.
someone can spot such marks or kunai and prepare a counter like raikage did.
the only problem is that Ei guessed wrong because Minato teleporting from kunai to kunai was misdirection.
sasukes jutsu leaves a slim window of a counter.
if Black Zetsu was able to counter it, then the window is definitely not that small.
no you are wrong, madara and kaguya exceed sasuke in reflexes yet they fell prey to his jutsu and utilized their occular powers, they couldnt even physically move their body before they were hit, that is how deadly sasukes jutsu is.
Madara only got hit once, and that was before Madara figured out how it worked. Stop exaggerating that tech as if Madara had no chance whatsover against it, it's downright pitiful.
madara had no advantage in that battle hence he fled.
the Sasuke wank is strong in you, because you conveniently forgot that Madara's Rinnegan powers were limited with one eye on top of Naruto being there as well and having the senjutsu to sense the clones.
him being familiar is not an excuse, minato still coulnt escape the pounding, he just couldnt react to madara, sasuke could.
Minato was already at a disadvantage seeing as though Madara was familiar with FTG because Tobirama was known for using it during their day. On the other hand, he was going in the fight against Sasuke and Naruto having to figure out how that particular jutsu worked because he never saw it before. It's no excuse, that's just how it is. I don't recall Sasuke automatically knowing Madara was using a clone the first time Madara used it against him.
It was closed.
it was done that way for suspense. He was obviously already on the other side by the time it closed if he was there to catch Sakura.
 
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the thought bubble about how his eye wasn't ready yet said otherwise.

except .

Sasuke was only able to dimension jump with it because of the Kamui hole dude. If he could dimension jump with that tech, he wouldn't have been stuck in that desert for as long as he was.

your argument is just as biased, because Sasuke's isn't flawless either. Madara countered it about as easily as he did FTG, and it barely took him 5min at the most to do it. The marked kunai isn't even that big of a weakness either. It simply sucked for Minato that Madara was already familiar with the technique, he had the reflexes to counter it, and that it was near impossible to sneak atk him. It's been shown by Madara and Kaguya that going up against an opponent with high lvl reflexes is a weakness of all t/s jutsu of that sort, not just 1.

Madara was getting cut in half after that and I had mean that Sasukes technique is powerful against all , but not against Kaguya !!
 

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lol wut? i hate it when people overwank characters. smh

Oh? How did I "overwank"? Did Minato not explain how FTG works by teleporting to his Kunai which have his chakra made markings or how he can teleport whatever is touching his chakra which Naruto used to save him and Sasuke from Obito?

Water jutsus and Earth jutsus are perfect to expand the FTG since they make physical things that can spread, surround, or be used to overtake a good amount of the battlefield. Are you saying they can't do this when their FTG markings itself is created solely on their chakra and is use to FTG to or move a target to them as we seen done? We see Edo Tobirama spread water around the battlefield on the rooftop in part 1, is the water jutsu not created by Tobirama's chakra? Had we not seen Tobirama freely move targets from where they are to where Minato is or where Minato's kunai are when he used Minato as a medium?

If I'm not wrong in those simply questions then how did I "overwank"? Simply using the explanation of how a jutsu works, how it was being used and then come to possible ways it can be done in the same fashion is not overwanking. If I said a FTG user marked the earth with their FTG tags so now they can FTG anything that touch the earth or can FTG anywhere on Earth since their chakra is connected to the earth, then that would be overwanking and drawing a conclusion with no manga facts.
 

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Madara was getting cut in half after that and I had mean that Sasukes technique is powerful against all , but not against Kaguya !!

You do know Madara seen Sasuke and literally did nothing right? He didn't care about getting cut in half; he was more worried about getting his eye. We seen Kakashi and Obito Sharingans be connected when close and both can see from the other's eye, Madara had 1 of both eyes that Obito also had and was close to Obito's area so what makes you think he didn't see Sakura about to destroy his eye so he ignored Sasuke attacking him and this is why he automatically threw his blade exactly where Sakura was right as he enter the dimension.

I didn't see Madara use his fire jutsus which literally larger than any of Sasuke's base Katon jutsu, or him using wood jutsus which can engulf a huge distance and release spores that takes down whoever breathes it in. Where's his Susanoo? He used it with no eyes but not with 1 eye? Where's Madara's absorbing ninjutsu power he shown as edo and blind? Most of his black orbs were FTG away with Minato as well so saying Sasuke's S/T jutsu is powerful against all when he was fighting a handicap fight with Naruto isn't much.
 

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it was done that way for suspense. He was obviously already on the other side by the time it closed if he was there to catch Sakura.

Obito had completely closed his eyes, and the portal was closed as well. Sakura fell back, and Sasuke was still not on panel. How the heck did he make it through then?
 

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Yes, FTG is way better than Sasuke's jutsu. :|
 

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Madara was getting in half after that .....

Madara was getting cut in half after that and I had mean that Sasukes technique is powerful against all , but not against Kaguya !!
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yeah, losing a lower body was such a big deal to Madara.....

It wasn't like he couldn't replace it or anything >.>

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Sasuke doesn't require an object and ftg cannot work without prior seals and markings. The user needs to place it himself while sasuke doesn't need that, next time try not to be biased. Ftg is not flawless or else madara won't have countered it so easily, its major weakness is its need for seals or kunais, countered ftg is much easier than countering sasukes jutsu(once in range). Let's put things in perspective here.

We've seen Sasuke switch with his sword and Sakura's vest. I'd say there's a good chance it requires a substitution in certain circumstances.

I didn't say FTG is flawless. If I were biased towards FTG, I wouldn't have said Kamui is better. Unless you think I'm biased against Sasuke for whatever reason?

FTG is a known quantity to Madara. The technique killed his brother and he knows Tobirama very well. There was no element of surprise when Minato tried to rush him - which, I remind you, was a straightforward distraction attempt and not a well prepared or thought out plan.

As for Sasuke, you can delude yourself into thinking Madara was taking him seriously, but that wasn't the case. Madara was much more concerned with getting his second eye than fighting. He also figured out the technique very quickly. Sasuke didn't get another attempt to use it after that.

Having to plant the seals and markings beforehand/during battle can be problematic, but it allows Minato have several spots to choose from, and we already know that he can use just show up and scatter a barrage of kunai to set himself up.
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That, and no cool down period, already makes it vastly superior to Sasuke's technique.
 

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Obito had completely closed his eyes, and the portal was closed as well. Sakura fell back, and Sasuke was still not on panel. How the heck did he make it through then?
i guess you'll never understand how suspense works. The scene was done that way to make the reader guess as to whether or not Sasuke made it through or not, hence why he wasn't seen until Sakura was falling. That was the whole point of the panel view zooming out as she was falling: to show Sasuke made it through. Why else was Sasuke seen making a mad dash for the hole? If he could dimension skip, there would've been no point at all in Kishimoto bringing Obito back into the picture.
 

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i guess you'll never understand how suspense works. The scene was done that way to make the reader guess as to whether or not Sasuke made it through or not, hence why he wasn't seen until Sakura was falling. That was the whole point of the panel view zooming out as she was falling: to show Sasuke made it through. Why else was Sasuke seen making a mad dash for the hole? If he could dimension skip, there would've been no point at all in Kishimoto bringing Obito back into the picture.

Sasuke was not in the panel. Sasuke states that he can, if they are within range. Anyhow, I am tired of this debate.
 

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It's still superior, although recharge and distance limits its usefulness. Ironically FTG can even be used from a marked kunai to get pass the marking flaw; hopefully another tomoe rinnegan will boost Sasuke's range and drop the recharge.
 
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