[Discussion] Fate vs Free Will

[Disquiet]

I think, a lot of people feel like this because they are born into already established systems. No one man can change the entire system to his liking. And by system, I mean societies all over the world. Even if you excel in life, it's just another form of complacency. You are forced to go through their desired channels, if not, then you have the option of dropping dead off the face of the earth. You either accept their system, or embrace starvation. To some, life itself and all its necessities may seem monopolized, which starts to challenge the ideal of free-will. Well, you can try and live life through a different path. But, if you have friends, family, you are prone to live a very unhappy life. One looks at all society has to offer, and say, "Pick something that makes you happy." This brings the question, has society monopolized happiness? I believe these thoughts and feelings occur within the mind and heart subliminally. I'm sure a lot of people look at the world and see something else, completely different from what it is now. And yet, they was never given the option to create a world of their own, only to partake in someone else's. Remember, no one asked to be born. So, are they born into a world only to add more bricks to a building someone started before them, and then die? If you die without playing a role, your life will be considered an unproductive one. Complacency is the only way to live a long, productive, and happy life. If a parent tells his son he has to be a policeman or get the hell out his house, the majority of people would say let him be what he wants to be and that it's morally wrong to do such a thing. If that parents tells his son he has to be either a policeman, a lawyer, or a doctor and if not, get the hell out his house; the majority would say let him be what he wants to be and that's morally wrong. To mostly everyone on this planet, the world is a parent that has permanent authority over their life. It's like an adoption, from one parent to another.

You must play a role, roles that are given. If there's a problem in the construction which halts the advance of that building, and then someone is born and occupies those roles given, which leads to him coming up with a solution; that alone would seem like fate to some participants. Then even more are born and occupies that same role, and one day some person offers a new method that introduces something extremely useful, but is based on the discoveries of the previous, and then this keeps happening over years by people choosing the limited roles they are offered. The same thing happens in all the roles that are given as options. The concept of fate is born, everyone having a role in the construction of that building. You have people that are working at the highs and lows of that building, and are rewarded accordingly. Then, they go on to have children, and the children wonders why they weren't born at the top.

Neji's case is a good analogy for what I've been saying. He was born into a role, to serve the main family or die. That's why he believed in fate. Naruto challenged that, not only that, but is suppose to be the 'savior' of the world. I wouldn't say I 'think' like Naruto, his self-righteous speeches can be annoying. But yes, I believe in free-will.

 

[Olorin]

fate does not exist if I chose to go outside and kill a puppy that was not fate that was me choosing to kill a puppy

it's as simple as that and going deeper into it is just a waste of time