EMS Sasuke (restricted) takes on a gauntlet

[Prince Charles]

You can use Shunshin for longer if you pump more chakra, which is probably why Hiruzen got to the battlefield before Sasuke, bearing in mind he's an Edo who has a constant supply of chakra. The only factor there that's possibly valid is the strength of the chakra used but that doesn't explain why Minato is faster than Hashirama or Tobirama, who have stronger chakra.

I also never understood why minato's shunshin is so much superior compared to others, I guess it's simply due to the fact of his skill and proficiency in it. Along with chakra control.

 

[Chīkara]

Lol still waiting on the arguments that make people believe Sasuke even stands a chance at winning

Lol we are currently talking about EMS Sasuke,
Sasuke could easily cut bee's tail with chidori like it was nothing [

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He is now able to comfortably fight with enton [

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wish bee good luck avoiding enton sword attacks. I mean even chidori is enough, Kakashi was able to easily cut trough
the Biju chakura tails with raikiri, since Sasuke is able to use 1 susanoó hand its save to assume that he can even use
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[Touken]

I also never understood why minato's shunshin is so much superior compared to others, I guess it's simply due to the fact of his skill and proficiency in it. Along with chakra control.

It most likely comes down to those 3 factors for non-Bijuu hosts.

 

[adeshina365]

You can use Shunshin for longer if you pump more chakra, which is probably why Hiruzen got to the battlefield before Sasuke, bearing in mind he's an Edo who has a constant supply of chakra. The only factor there that's possibly valid is the strength of the chakra used but that doesn't explain why Minato is faster than Hashirama or Tobirama, who have stronger chakra.

It's also based on the quality of technique (as clearly indicated in my post).

 

[Bogard]

Sasuke beats V2 even with restrictions easily. He won't actually even dodge anything, but use

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in case V2 will try to blitz Sasuke. The flames would ultimately cover him up even more and burn him, even in V2 state. A full Bijū Hachibi already got affected. After this, he can launch Enton projectiles from within the armor.

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Current Sasuke is superior in Kenjutsu to Bee. Before he used Chidori to combat Bee, who was outnumbered by the amount of blades Bee had, however he can manifest the sword with Chidori and Kagutsuchi creating ultimate sword that Bee cannot handle. Although Chidori hasn't been used with Kagutsuchi at the same time, Enton manipulates the flames so that it won't incinerate the user - modified to be exact, jutsu.

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By using Enton, he can manifest the sword with Raiton and Shakuton in order to burn Bee's swords at the same time they land hits. One hit is extremely crucial. Nevertheless, there is no speed difference anymore due to Sasuke being able to keep up with KCM Naruto effortlessly.

Also, if you disagree with Enton being able to incinerate him, Chidori Eisō will. Kakashi was able to cut effortlessly and effectively with his Kage Bunshin the hands of the V2 Jinchūriki.

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Also he has shown to be able to move at the same time he uses Susano'o. Not Bee is able to break through the defense, he will have to evade continously Enton Magatama's and the fierce punches of Susano'o. Not to mention, if Hachibi was damaged from the Amaterasu, what makes you think V2 has more durability? Prepostrous idea.​

Sasuke was barely following V1 Bee's speed:

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So don't think that in V2(that boost his speed even more), it will be that easy to tag him. In this state they can produce chakra arms as well that are long range attacks:

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Since they are just arms of chakra, they can be moved or modified at will. Burning it is useless

So Sasuke covering himself like you claim would be useless since he still can be damaged despite it:

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Base Bee already showed to have more strength than his brother, so let alone with V1 or V2 shroud. It would litterally obliterrate Sasuke if he want to use this strategy

 

[Prince Charles]

It most likely comes down to those 3 factors for non-Bijuu hosts.

I suppose but I wish kishi would give more insight on the whole shunshin thing cause it honestly makes no sense minato has practically the best shunshin even superior to tobirama's? What makes his so much better is beyond me.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

You can use Shunshin for longer if you pump more chakra, which is probably why Hiruzen got to the battlefield before Sasuke, bearing in mind he's an Edo who has a constant supply of chakra. The only factor there that's possibly valid is the strength of the chakra used but that doesn't explain why Minato is faster than Hashirama or Tobirama, who have stronger chakra.

Seems as though I made a mistake, but a full Bijuu host is still supplied with Yang and Yin chakra when they enter their respective BM. Hashirama still isn't faster than Minato. Sasuke still isn't faster than KCM Naruto.

I was kidding, I might agree. Yang usually manifests physically the body, while Yin does the opposite and enhances the mental area.​

 

[Touken]

It's also based on the quality of technique (as clearly indicated in my post).

You're just making things up now.

 

[adeshina365]

Sasuke was barely following V1 Bee's speed:

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Only Bogard can interpret a complete dodge as "barely" dodging something. Keep on fighting the good fight.

You're just making things up now.

Please tell me you're trolling?

Well, I guess I shouldn't expect too much from someone who doesn't even know what air pressure is...

 

[Chīkara]

Sasuke was barely following V1 Bee's speed:

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Dude.. calm down.

That attack was completely dodged
the second pic you show us was bee catching sasuke off guard while he was
using Tsukuyomi for the first time.



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[Prince Charles]

Sasuke was barely following V1 Bee's speed:

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So don't think that in V2(that boost his speed even more), it will be that easy to tag him. In this state they can produce chakra arms as well that are long range attacks:

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Since they are just arms of chakra, they can be moved or modified at will. Burning it is useless

So Sasuke covering himself like you claim would be useless since he still can be damaged despite it:

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Base Bee already showed to have more strength than his brother, so let alone with V1 or V2 shroud. It would litterally obliterrate Sasuke if he want to use this strategy

Stop the crap, he was following JuubiObito's speed, he should have no trouble keeping track of v2 Bee and his chakra arm's.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Sasuke was barely following V1 Bee's speed:

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So don't think that in V2(that boost his speed even more), it will be that easy to tag him. In this state they can produce chakra arms as well that are long range attacks:

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Since they are just arms of chakra, they can be moved or modified at will. Burning it is useless

So Sasuke covering himself like you claim would be useless since he still can be damaged despite it:

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Base Bee already showed to have more strength than his brother, so let alone with V1 or V2 shroud. It would litterally obliterrate Sasuke if he want to use this strategy

If he was to kill himself that is.

That's no way to fight man. It's like saying base Minato beats Sasuke because he can tag him while Enton covered, warp the Susano'o away and kill him with high difficulty.

That's called stalemate. Also, if you are saying that V2 is as fast as Ay, which he isn't since Ay's fastest before the war arc., then he might beat Sasuke. But Sasuke can always launch a Nagashi around him in case such thing happens, which recquires zero handseals. Also, Enton will hit him unless Bee has Ay kind of reaction and moving time.

Sasuke also has intercepted Obito and kept up with KCM Naruto. He also has kept up with BSM, there is no denying in it. When? This scan.

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V2 also has no properties, feats or even a slightest hint it can tank Enton, when a full mode Hachibi failed. Trying to inflict damage to Sasuke would be extremely hazardous and disadvantegous if he loses a limb, just to put him down.

Also, the Ay that Bee competed against was V1 Ay. V2 Ay is considerably stronger, which Sasuke tanked attacks from.

If you're saying V2 Bee > Juubito in speed, you should really

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[Bogard]

Stop the crap, he was following JuubiObito's speed, he should have no trouble keeping track of v2 Bee and his chakra arm's.

Yet he couldn't follow Minato's speed

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Anyway it's because he can read straight forward movements, which are predictable

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Weird movements are unpredictable even by Sharingan. It's for that reason that while he was capable to read V1 Bee's movements, he couldn't read base Bee movements despite base Bee being slower than V1 Bee

So as long as Bee keeps his style, Sasuke isn't reading shit

 

[Avinash012]

Stop the crap, he was following JuubiObito's speed, he should have no trouble keeping track of v2 Bee and his chakra arm's.

That was in middle air which is clearly different from foot speed,they are keeping up with Obito which holding huge ass avatars like BM and Susanoo. Do u really think Naruto Kyuubi avatar can move as fast as normal BM Mode Naruto?

I don't think anyone of them can keep up with Obito's foot speed.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Yet he couldn't follow Minato's speed

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Anyway it's because he can read straight forward movements, which are predictable

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Weird movements are unpredictable even by Sharingan. It's for that reason that while he was capable to read V1 Bee's movements, he couldn't read base Bee movements despite base Bee being slower than V1 Bee

So as long as Bee keeps his style, Sasuke isn't reading shit

Who said he couldn't follow Minato's movements?​

 

[Turson]

Look at the diagonal lines from the corner of that panel. It clearly indicates that Sasuke's movement was sporadic; that combined with the lines and the Kanji make it rather obvious.

When I look at this scan, I see that they are just running. Nothing proves that they used Shunshin or went full speed. They didnt even have to, becuase of ranged techniques they both have.

Shunshin is only obvious in situations like that:

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Concluding: I might agree that Sasuke has become faster, but to say that his foot speed is better than KCM Naruto is a big exaggeration. You may disagree or not, but thats what I think.

 

[Bogard]

Who said he couldn't follow Minato's movements?​

The picture? We see the exclammation mark on his head after all

Only Bogard can interpret a complete dodge as "barely" dodging something. Keep on fighting the good fight.
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Coming from the guy who think EMS Sasuke is faster than KCM Naruto. Keep on fighting the good fight

 

[Touken]

Please tell me you're trolling?

Well, I guess I shouldn't expect too much from someone who doesn't even know what air pressure is...

I already stated physics isn't my forte. On the other hand, can you explain to me what a transpiration stream is? Or how the atrioventricular and semi-lunar valves work? Or maybe how the Bohr effect is vital for a fetus to live, why anaerobic respiration is useful, why it's important we have an atrioventricular node, a sinoatrial node and the Bundle of His along with purkyne fibres running through our heart, why ice is less dense than water and what's formed when a metal and water reacts?

 

[AlphaScythian]

That was in middle air which is clearly different from foot speed,they are keeping up with Obito which holding huge ass avatars like BM and Susanoo. Do u really think Naruto Kyuubi avatar can move as fast as normal BM Mode Naruto?

I don't think anyone of them can keep up with Obito's foot speed.

So flight speed is now inferior to foot one? Rofl.

They failed hitting him 1st time and commented how fast he was.
Obito later used this speed to slam their avatars into bits.

 

[Prince Charles]

That was in middle air which is clearly different from foot speed,they are keeping up with Obito which holding huge ass avatars like BM and Susanoo. Do u really think Naruto Kyuubi avatar can move as fast as normal BM Mode Naruto?

I don't think anyone of them can keep up with Obito's foot speed.

Regardless obviously his flight speed had to be above high speed that it took the so long to adjust to obito's flight pattern.

Yet he couldn't follow Minato's speed

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Anyway it's because he can read straight forward movements, which are predictable

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Weird movements are unpredictable even by Sharingan. It's for that reason that while he was capable to read V1 Bee's movements, he couldn't read base Bee movements despite base Bee being slower than V1 Bee

So as long as Bee keeps his style, Sasuke isn't reading shit

His style? his only shown unpredictable style with the combination of his 8 sword style attack, unless your saying Bee while in base will be fighting ems sasuke for a period of time makes me lel because he will get wrecked. Anyway's in regards to chakra arm's unpredictability and what not,

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Chakra arms of no problem here, they easily get intercepted. Obito was still occupied and still react to naruto's chakra arms.

Btw where's the proof that sasuke was even trying to follow minato's speed in that panel? He just looked surprised to me just like naruto due to the fact that minato intervened with kakashi trying to stab obito.