Dead character with the highest ceiling?

FloriGlori

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orochimaru practically was at or nearing his ceiling :S
Ha, not even close to. Orochimaru, especially his researches, had huge potential. Imagine (just in theory) Orochimaru would've joined Tobi's side and summoned all those Edo Tenseis instead of Kabuto. Imagine him mastering the Ryuu Sennin Modo and give him at most a year to train with it and develop techniques. Imagine him taking over more and more bodies and thus obtaining more and more unique abilities. Orochimaru could've been so much more. If he would've only managed to take over Sasuke's body, things would be quite different than they are at the moment, and Orochimaru would probably be a top tier Shinobi by now.

Thanks to Fushi Tensei and all his experiments Orochimaru could've become so much more than he was.
 

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i got a few :p

Hayate Gekkō : mastered "dance of the cresent moon'' jutsu at very young age as stated by Baki

kimmimaro : KKG / died at young age due illness but had all the talent and jutsu from his feared clan

Haku : ice KKG / extreme speed + can use one hand to activate jutsu

shisui : already had the name "Shisui of the Body Flicker" at young age + has the strongest genjutsu and mangekyou sharingan

Itachi : no need to explain

minato : had awesome jutsu + invented rasengan but died before he could add his own element to it

the Sound 4 : They were all young and specialised in defensive barrier jutsu for orochimaru's defence AND were pretty good in fighting as well : only reason they died => plot no jutsu

Obviously there are alot more .. but all these people died at a young age so they could've made the most improvement i think :D
 

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Ha, not even close to. Orochimaru, especially his researches, had huge potential. Imagine (just in theory) Orochimaru would've joined Tobi's side and summoned all those Edo Tenseis instead of Kabuto. Imagine him mastering the Ryuu Sennin Modo and give him at most a year to train with it and develop techniques. Imagine him taking over more and more bodies and thus obtaining more and more unique abilities. Orochimaru could've been so much more. If he would've only managed to take over Sasuke's body, things would be quite different than they are at the moment, and Orochimaru would probably be a top tier Shinobi by now.

Thanks to Fushi Tensei and all his experiments Orochimaru could've become so much more than he was.

Neh, oro would have gotten stronger only if he got his hands on an uchiha...

he had potential only due to the fact that he was immortal, but I doubt he would have found a body that sage mode would work with.. It would require alot of chakra etc... I highly doubt he would find someone... Unless he took kabuto , and even he didn't know kabuto's body was fit for it..

And oro wouldn't have went as far as kabuto with edo tensei i believe.. to him he was completed, but unlike kabuto he wasn't able to control that much people..
 

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Ha, not even close to. Orochimaru, especially his researches, had huge potential. Imagine (just in theory) Orochimaru would've joined Tobi's side and summoned all those Edo Tenseis instead of Kabuto. Imagine him mastering the Ryuu Sennin Modo and give him at most a year to train with it and develop techniques. Imagine him taking over more and more bodies and thus obtaining more and more unique abilities. Orochimaru could've been so much more. If he would've only managed to take over Sasuke's body, things would be quite different than they are at the moment, and Orochimaru would probably be a top tier Shinobi by now.

Thanks to Fushi Tensei and all his experiments Orochimaru could've become so much more than he was.

Orochimaru had enough time but failed. He searched his whole life for perfection.

I'd say Haku and the Oto Quintett.
 

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Neh, oro would have gotten stronger only if he got his hands on an uchiha...

he had potential only due to the fact that he was immortal, but I doubt he would have found a body that sage mode would work with.. It would require alot of chakra etc... I highly doubt he would find someone... Unless he took kabuto , and even he didn't know kabuto's body was fit for it..

And oro wouldn't have went as far as kabuto with edo tensei i believe.. to him he was completed, but unlike kabuto he wasn't able to control that much people..
That's all mere speculation. But so are the things I say, of course. If he prepared for a war, he could indeed go as far as Kabuto with Edo Tensei, especially since he has the latter to help him with all that DNA stuff.

As far as I understood, Kabuto's body was only fitting because of all those modifications, like Karin's Uzumaki genes. I'm convinced that eventually, may it be by now or in two years (plot-wise), he would've managed to create a fitting body. Most of Orochimaru's researches and experiments were basically abandoned unfinished when he died. The scroll Suigetsu found is another example. Orochimaru definitely had much more potential.
 

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That's all mere speculation. If he prepared for a war, he could indeed go as far as Kabuto with Edo Tensei, especially since he has the latter to help him with all that DNA stuff.

As far as I understood, Kabuto's body was only fitting because of all those modifications, like Karin's Uzumaki genes. I'm convinced that eventually, may it be by now or in two years (plot-wise), he would've managed to create a fitting body. All of Orochimaru's researches and experiments were basically abandoned unfinished when he died. The scroll Suigetsu found is another example. Orochimaru definitely had much more potential.

No , orochimaru's body didn't accept him to becoming a sage, it jsut didn't work out, so he was incomplete...

Kabuto just added additional things to his already complete sage mode


As for the scroll, we don't know what it is, and seeing that suigetsu wants to give sasuke it, and not take it for himself, shows he prob can't use it, and its something to do with uchihas and Sharingan..

Once again, Orochimaru was NOT getting an uchiha body
 

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No , orochimaru's body didn't accept him to becoming a sage, it jsut didn't work out, so he was incomplete...

Kabuto just added additional things to his already complete sage mode


As for the scroll, we don't know what it is, and seeing that suigetsu wants to give sasuke it, and not take it for himself, shows he prob can't use it, and its something to do with uchihas and Sharingan..

Once again, Orochimaru was NOT getting an uchiha body
Indeed, it didn't allow him to master the Sennin Modo. He was incomplete. That's why I say he didn't reach his ceiling already. He could've become complete. Since Orochimaru is/was constantly improving his own body and could even take over the bodys of others, I'm convinced that eventually he would've been able to master it. As I say, it's possible that it would have taken him years, but wasn't doomed to be incompatible for all time.

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'He hadn't found the right body'. As for the scroll, that's speculation as well. But since Suigetsu said 'Orochimaru even considered something like this!?' I'm sure that it's only related to the Sharingan.

Like you said, Orochimaru was incomplete (but still pretty strong), that's why I believe that he could've become so much more. Time isn't really an issue for Orochimaru, since his body cannot fade away thanks to Fushi Tensei. Even if it would take Orochimaru twenty years to reach the next level, he had that potential.
 

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Minato Imagine If he lived for 20 more Years then He could have solo Everyone
 

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There are three characters that come to mind when I think of potential.

Minato:
-developed rasengan which we now know to be an in complete technique. But would have been developed further, maybe even finished had he lived longer.
-he possessed incredible natural speed and had the flying thunder god technique, he also developed reaper death seal which could be considered one of the most powerful Justus in the ninja world.
-he accomplished an extraordinary amount of things in his short life which leads me to believe he had vast potential for much more.

Obito:
-unlocked the sharingan at a very young age, had a strong will and at times proved he could keep up with ninjas much stronger than him.
-as we know now because of Kakashi he possessed an incredible MS ability which if used in conjunction with susanoo' would make him near unbeatable in a fight.
-I believe Obito to be one of the only Uchihas besides Madara, and shisui that could pass Itachi in strength.
-Like minato he accomplishe many things in his short life.

Shisui:
-known for possessing one of the strongest MS abilities in all of Naruto.
-said to have the greatest affinity for genjutsu in the entire uchiha clan(even more so than Itachi).
-was known for his incredible speed via the body flicker technique.
-taught Itachi the importance of self sacrifice and gave up both his eyes to protect what he loved the most.
-had he lived a full life shisui could have become the greatest Uchiha of his time.
 

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Haku, Kimimaro, Orochimaru, Suigetsu, Shino, Tenten of course <3, Shisui, Kurenai, Ino, Sai, Jugo, Hidan, can't think of any more =\

uhhh suigetsu, shino, tenten, kurenai, ino ,sai and jugo arent dead.......
 

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If Minato had ninjutsu like fire, lightning or anything else he would be an absolute one man army.

Fireballs from one spot, than another etc.

Im sure Minato has atleast 2/3 nature elements, but the fact remains that no-one has survived the FTG + [Rasengan/kunai] combo, so why would he need to showcase anything else??

A smart man like Minato will surely have a backup plan in case some ridiculous opponent could somehow counter his FTG + [Rasengan/kunai] combo. He just hasnt met anyone like it yet, that we know of.
 

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Soo many of them
Kimmimaro if he would have been healthy, obito, minato could have improved, my boy yahiko, and as OP as he was, even nagato would have been much stronger if he stayed alive and was healthy
 

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Im sure Minato has atleast 2/3 nature elements, but the fact remains that no-one has survived the FTG + [Rasengan/kunai] combo, so why would he need to showcase anything else??

Urm, raikage and bee?
 

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@Owarij & @FloriGlori

Just thought I should put my opinion out there, Orochimaru had so much potential it wasn't even funny .-. Although this is my opinion and I could probably be proven wrong.

For example, sage mode. What do you need to be able to do for sage mode? Be able to absorb chakra nature. Remember how Jugos clan was able to absorb chakra nature? Who was also able to absorb nature chakra? Kimimaro and Sasuke are two examples.

I'll focus on Kimimaro. Kimimaro had the ability to successfully absorb chakra nature and live, granting him the potential to reach a sage mode of something we don't know. Kimimaro also only had the desires to reach his masters (Orochimaru) goal. So therefore, he would willingly give up his body in order to help Orochimaru. This would grant Orochimaru the ability to use a bone Kekkei Genkai infused with snake techniques on top of his diamond piercing sword (forgot the name of it). Then Orochimaru would also be granted the ability to have a complete snake sage mode on top of his true form as it was.

Orochimaru wasn't even near his ceiling. And just imagine is he got Sasuke as his vessel :|
 
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haku, obito, minato, kushina( i say kushina since she was jinchuriki of the nine-tailes she could have mastered it like naruto right now)
 
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