Can Naruto/Kurama break Sasuke's CT?

[shadowcb]

I think this should end the thread. To put it in simple terms, Kurama basically turns into a mass that is generating a powerful 'Pull'. There is no outside source involved here providing Kurama with the leeway to generate enough force to break free of that 'Pull'. Take the example of air-crafts. They have to generate enough upward force to oppose the weight of its body and fly. It means the force needs to be opposed to allow the object to break free. How is Kurama accomplishing it when it's generating the force itself?



Assumptions that are not backed by manga.

There you go again. Everybody knows most of your facts are assumption, yet you want to make that claim about other. I provided fact that Kurama can counter force. CT uses force just like Shinra Tensei.

 

[UltraPain]

There you go again. Everybody knows most of your facts are assumption, yet you want to make that claim about other. I provided fact that Kurama can counter force. CT uses force just like Shinra Tensei.

Honestly does anyone else out there know how to get through to this guy about the way inward and outward forces work because I give up.

 

[lndra]

Kurama is not controlling his gravity sasuke is, releasing tbb will do absolutely nothing except make a u-turn

Who said Kurama as to control his gravity for this to work?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Kishi allowed Kurama to counter gravity. That means he can counter gravity. If you don't like it talk to Kishi.

its you that doesnt understand what happen in that scan.

In that scan Tendo Pain was the core of that ST pull and not Kurama body. What kurama counter is force of ST that goes direct toward him.

And if you think that moves can destroy the gravity core inside his body. Thats not gonna happen.

The situation now is different, Kurama is the core that attract anything toward him. Sasuke is not the core but Kurama or even Naruto body.

What he will destroy is rock around him. And I doubt he can focus on anything like creating clones, or gather energy. He will waste massive energy there and in the end all his work is futile.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

If Naruto is made the core of the CT all he would have to do is destroy all the incoming flying crap. Not that hard to do since he obliterated Juubi jin Madara's full fledged CT meteorites with ease using TSBs. The sphere will nt form around him and so he would not get trapped. Even if the rocks do hit him, in full Kurama mode he is in an armor of extremely durable Kurama chakra which is now larger since he has both halves of the Nine tails and stronger since he has rikudou chakra and can even further enhance this with Sage Mode. If eight tailed yang kurama can bust a CT who would nine tail yin+yang kurama with rikudou and sage mode enhancements do?

 

[UltraPain]

Kurama is not controlling his gravity sasuke is, releasing tbb will do absolutely nothing except make a u-turn

Again that's like blowing up multiple nukes outside of the earth's atmosphere. It does nothing.

 

[shelke]

There you go again. Everybody knows most of your facts are assumption, yet you want to make that claim about other. I provided fact that Kurama can counter force. CT uses force just like Shinra Tensei.

Says the guy who has no clue how gravity works. Sit yourself down because that 'every body knows' seems to be your sole defense now. UltraPain obliterated all your flimsy arguments with simple science.

Honestly does anyone else out there know how to get through to this guy about the way inward and outward forces work because I give up.

Hand him over a copy of 8th grade physics.

 

[BSK]

There you go again. Everybody knows most of your facts are assumption, yet you want to make that claim about other. I provided fact that Kurama can counter force. CT uses force just like Shinra Tensei.

Wrong shinra Tensei aka almighty push repels, gravity attracts it does not repel.
Gravity
the force that attracts a body toward the center of the earth, or toward any other physical body having mass.

 

[shadowcb]

Honestly does anyone else out there know how to get through to this guy about the way inward and outward forces work because I give up.

I understand there are different types of force, but the manga show Kurama can couner jutsu that uses force. Remember this in to science fact. This is science fiction. Kishi doesn't always follow science fact. Like I said there is a reason kishi had Sasuke first place the tail beast in a genjutsu before he used CT.

 

[shadowcb]

Says the guy who has no clue how gravity works. Sit yourself down because that 'every body knows' seems to be your sole defense now. UltraPain obliterated all your flimsy arguments with simple science.



Hand him over a copy of 8th grade physics.

Oh so you are saying gravity is not longer a type of force. Why do people always want to use science in these discussions. What the scientific explanation to why Kurama was able to counter Pain's force.

 

[Ansatsuken]

And I think why Sasuke genjutsu'd tailed beast is not because they will counter gravity forces but Sasuke doesnt want Tailed Beast to destroy his CTs from inside when CT is completed like what Kurama did to Pain CT

 

[BSK]

Who said Kurama as to control his gravity for this to work?

No one but since he is not controlling his gravity there is nothing he can do that stop sasuke from keeping his situation the same or even increasing the gravity.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Oh so you are saying gravity is not longer a type of force.

On the moon gravity is a no no.

 

[lndra]

No one but since he is not controlling his gravity there is nothing he can do that stop sasuke from keeping his situation the same or even increasing the gravity.

You do realize for the core to be complete the core has to finalize and become whole, right?

 

[UltraPain]

Oh so you are saying gravity is not longer a type of force.

Jesus dude he's not saying that gravity isn't force. What he's saying is that the properties of gravity and repulsion are different. Gravity cannot be stopped unless the source is destroyed and cannot be manipulated or transformed unless met with a greater gravitational force.

 

[BSK]

You do realize for the core to be complete the core has to finalize and become whole, right?

What do you mean?

 

[shelke]

Oh so you are saying gravity is not longer a type of force. Why do people always want to use science in these discussions. What the scientific explanation to why Kurama was able to counter Pain's force.

Maybe you should pay attention to posts. This is getting preposterous: when Kurama itself becomes the epicenter of gravitational force, it isn't cancelling itself out. Which part of it is so complicated for you to understand? Or is it self-inflicted ignorance?

 

[lndra]

What do you mean?

For instance when Sasuke casted the CT after the Genjutsu, the core became complete when the Tailed Beasts were fully inside the CT. After all the debris pulled itself onto them.

 

[Narutrol]

Your post is flawed because that was senjutsu PS. Remember Sasuke was using Juugo natural energy to create a senjutsu PS.

What I'm stating is based on how kishimoto portraited them to us, that is far from flawed. And what you saying has nothing to do with what kishimoto conveying nor what I'm getting at

 

[shadowcb]

Jesus dude he's not saying that gravity isn't force. What he's saying is that the properties of gravity and repulsion are different. Gravity cannot be manipulated, transformed, or stopped unless met with a greater gravitational force.

1 - I was being sarcastic.

2 - This is why I say people should answer question about the manga based solely on scientific fact. We should use the manga and databook.